MM has made adjustments

[mraynrand]

Is that like a proto-smurf?

[sharpe1027]

Can't stand political correctness... and even though I think Harlan is a completely dishonest, left-wing POS, the hyper-sensative princesses in here who ran him out on a rail are more offensive to me than the video he posted of Kennedy getting his brains blown out.

You guys need to grow up - and grow a pair.

People seem to forget that freedom of speech is a two way street. If Harlan decided to take his ball and go home, that's his decision and it shows an unwillingness to take criticism (right or wrong, criticism of view points is one of the most protected areas of free speech). As far as I know, nobody besides Harlan was so offended that they took their ball and when home.

Perhaps you are asking the wrong people to grow a pair?

[wist43]

People seem to forget that freedom of speech is a two way street. If Harlan decided to take his ball and go home, that's his decision and it shows an unwillingness to take criticism (right or wrong, criticism of view points is one of the most protected areas of free speech). As far as I know, nobody besides Harlan was so offended that they took their ball and when home.

Perhaps you are asking the wrong people to grow a pair?

Harlan and I are constantly at each others throats in FYI... certainly not uncommon for either one of us to tell the other fuck off; but we're right back at it the next day.

I didn't pay that close attention to the bruhaha that prompted Harlan to take a break from PR, and "freedom of speech" is only an applicable term in relation to government. In a private setting you are only subject to the rules of the ownership. That said, political correctness is a disgusting pack mentality born out of insecurity and weakness; and unfortunately, it's everywhere around us everyday.

Amerikans (liberals usually) take "offense" at words for Christ's sake (yes, I know it is illegal to say "Christ" - surely an atheist will report me to the Feds); and bounce immediately into attack/ostracization mode - to me, that is repugnant. I respect peoples freedom, people of the politically correct persuasion do not. They hide behind speech codes, the strength of the mob, and then use "might makes right" to bludgeon anyone who may have run afoul of their sensibilities.

Harlan is a fundamentally dishonest person, but he at least has the guts to fight the mob.

[rbaloha1]

Thread started positive but turned into childish banter.

Yes, MM has adjusted. The loss of Philbin combined with Jennings stagnated the offense.

MM resorted back to what he preaches -- running attempts not yards. Plus AR is not forcing the ball into deep cover 2 coverage -- taking what the defense is giving.

[Joemailman]

Thread started positive but turned into childish banter.

Yes, MM has adjusted. The loss of Philbin combined with Jennings stagnated the offense.

MM resorted back to what he preaches -- running attempts not yards. Plus AR is not forcing the ball into deep cover 2 coverage -- taking what the defense is giving.

This is 2009 all over again. McCarthy and Rodgers want to go downfield, and can be a bit stubborn about changing the focus. Eventually they do though, and the Packers could go on a 2009-like second half tear that saw them go from 4-4 to 11-5.

[sharpe1027]

Harlan and I are constantly at each others throats in FYI... certainly not uncommon for either one of us to tell the other fuck off; but we're right back at it the next day.

I didn't pay that close attention to the bruhaha that prompted Harlan to take a break from PR, and "freedom of speech" is only an applicable term in relation to government. In a private setting you are only subject to the rules of the ownership. That said, political correctness is a disgusting pack mentality born out of insecurity and weakness; and unfortunately, it's everywhere around us everyday.

Amerikans (liberals usually) take "offense" at words for Christ's sake (yes, I know it is illegal to say "Christ" - surely an atheist will report me to the Feds); and bounce immediately into attack/ostracization mode - to me, that is repugnant. I respect peoples freedom, people of the politically correct persuasion do not. They hide behind speech codes, the strength of the mob, and then use "might makes right" to bludgeon anyone who may have run afoul of their sensibilities.

Harlan is a fundamentally dishonest person, but he at least has the guts to fight the mob.

Point taken and agreed as a general principle for extreme cases. IMO, your broad brush generalization has little to do with anything that happened in this matter. Simply because Harlan deliberately took a position contrary to several poster's personal sense of posting boundaries does not make it a mob mentality, does not mean Harlan was been ostracized, and do not make the posters liberals advancing ridiculous PC positions. Some people thought blood spattered gore was not really required in a football forum. Big deal.

It was borderline post that I did not complain about personally. But for Harlan to pretend like he was some messiah protecting free speech for all of us was comical. Moving on.

I think Capers is doing fine and is an above average D-coordinator. I would suggest that if we were to let him go we would be more likely to take a step backward than improve. That coupled with the often ignored benefits of continuity of coaching staffs make me resistant to any changes in the foreseeable future.

[wist43]

Thread started positive but turned into childish banter.

Yes, MM has adjusted. The loss of Philbin combined with Jennings stagnated the offense.

MM resorted back to what he preaches -- running attempts not yards. Plus AR is not forcing the ball into deep cover 2 coverage -- taking what the defense is giving.

To me, what is important about the changes MM has made is that he is now incorporating power running plays - the scrum left, right, and middle wasn't a running a game, it was little more than taking a break from bombs away.

I just read an article about the Raiders and McFadden's struggles. The Raiders installed the zone blocking scheme this summer and it has turned one of the most explosive RB's in the league into a slug. The beat writers out there have been complaining about the Raiders running game with the same criticisms I've had about the Packers, i.e. their running game consisted only of scrum left/middle/right. I drafted McFadden in a FF money league - had I known they had switched to the zone blocking scheme I wouldn't have drafted him.

Over their bye week, the Raiders installed more power running plays - just as McCarthy has done with the Packers over these past couple of weeks. They didn't see much improvement in production last week - they have a pathetic OL; but at least they recognized the futility of being so one demensional in their running game, and made changes.

That is what I'm giving MM credit for... recognizing that the 3 running plays he had in his playbook weren't cutting it, and incorporating some power plays. It was great to see Lang and Sitton pulling. Calling running plays for the sake of calling running plays wasn't going to get us anywhere if they were consistently ineffective. Incorporating the power plays will improve our production in the running game and force defenses to be more honest - which will make the passing game all the more effective.

McCarthy made the adjustments that I, and many others, saw as necessary early on in the season. The Raiders learned the same lesson and they adjusted as well. A straight zone blocking scheme is pretty easy to defend... mixing it up will make us much more dangerous offensively.

[swede]

Remember when Dan Akroyd used to host another episode of Bad Ballet?

MM is like that with the running game. He might as well say that. "A bad running game is an excellent complement to a good passing game."

There may even be an argument that he pressures TT to scour the nation's colleges and universities looking to find the rare running backs that have just the right combination of missing qualities that will allow them to be unsuccessful in our historically bad running game."

(Combine Interview Room)

TT: Joe, if you see a big running lane to your left and a clogged up alley of guards, tackles and defensive ends to your right, what do you do?

Joe Running Back: Well usually I cut to the right.

(Knowing glances and little smiles of excitement cross the faces of the Packer coaches and coordinators!)

TT: Thanks, Joe

[LegandofthePack15]

the video he posted of Kennedy getting his brains blown out.

I didn't especially want to see Kennedy's brains splattered all over my computer screen

There wasn't any brain splatter. It was just a fuzzy 3 second clip that kept repeating over and over in cyberspace until a mod deleted it.

I am not a big fan of crybabies. Don't like a certain post, just ignore it and move on.

[LP]

McCarthy made the adjustments that I, and many others, saw as necessary early on in the season.

Keep patting yourself on the back like this and your gonna dislocate your shoulder.

[wist43]

Keep patting yourself on the back like this and your gonna dislocate your shoulder.

This forum is awash in Homers - if you point out a flaw, you're a traitor. I pointed out this particular flaw from game 1 and was predictably castigated for it.

That's the way you guys operate. When we're winning you're all sunshine and lollipops; when we're losing you're gnashing of teeth and lashing out at everyone. My posts tend to be of a critical, analytical nature - win, lose, or draw. Even if you win, you have to look at your shortcomings and shore them up - that's the nature of competition. Ignore your weaknesses, and you'll surely get your ass handed to you eventually.

For sure and for certain, your opponent is looking at your weaknesses. Football isn't rocket science... it's pretty easy to go back thru a game and look at what is working and why; same as what is not working and why.

[pbmax]

I'll just take my GIF comments for Leg to the Romper Room so this can go back to discussing Capers, who currently helms the 13th ranked scoring defense (with no bye week yet-EDIT-wrong-they are 13th in average its/game), 14th ranked yards defense, 19th ranked by profootballreference and 10th ranked by DVOA at Football Outsiders. If only he knew what he was doing better than his peers.

[Fritz]

"That's the way you guys operate. When we're winning you're all sunshine and lollipops; when we're losing you're gnashing of teeth and lashing out at everyone."

That's the general tendency of fans everywhere. Another, more recent (and to me more disturbing) tendency is to criticize a team no matter what they do or don't do, as if it's easy to win, and obvious how to win.

But it's not.

Your analysis is not all that deep. In sum, your criticism of Capers consists of arguing against his use of two or three man fronts. In truth I tend to agree; however, I think it's foolish to discount it the way you do. Surely there is room for two and three man fronts. If it didn't ever work, the fact is no one would use it, your hyperbole about Capers's supposedly unmanly playcalling preferences and his sheer stubborness notwithstanding.

[hoosier]

Is that like a proto-smurf?

I think it's a Thing with a hammer to which everything looks like a nail. But I could be wrong. On the assumption that I am not, though, I have to conclude that it's a metaphor for Monday Morning QBing run amock mixed with eternal pessimism.

[LP]

[QUOTE=wist43;692966] My posts tend to be of a critical, analytical nature - win, lose, or draw.QUOTE]

I find your posts to be of a "my way or it's wrong" nature. When they do well, it's because they got lucky. When they do poorly, it's because they didn't follow your advice.

Remember, there is a reason they get paid, and you just post on a discussion board.