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  • #31
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    Not only would it be for just 8 games, he probably would be of only minimal help next week. Benson can come back in 4 games after that, assuming he is healed. How high of a draft pick, and how much cap space should be invested for that level of need? If it makes the difference between winning the SB and not winning it, for the fans it is worth a lot. Of course, we will never know if it made the difference or not if they win the SB, and if they don't get him and don't win the SB, we won't know if he would have made the difference or not.
    Do we have any news about how Benson is coming along? I doubt it, of course. The same as Jackson not being much help his first week, you have to wonder how effective Benson will be when he first returns.

    Here's the extend of what I could find about it, at WSJ

    Benson said his progress has been good.

    Benson has been in a holding pattern because he is unable to put any weight on the injured foot. He said he expects to get out of his walking boot by next week, and his progress has been on, if not a little ahead, of schedule.
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    Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
      Do we have any news about how Benson is coming along? I doubt it, of course. The same as Jackson not being much help his first week, you have to wonder how effective Benson will be when he first returns.
      Benson can practice 2 weeks before coming back, so that will help. His issue will be endurance. Jackson's issue will be knowing the offense.

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      • #33
        If I were looking to stock the running back cupboard, I would be talking to Denver about Knowshon Moreno. This guy has alot of talent and I think fits into GB's offense very well. He has been snakebit a little and seems to be the odd man out in Denver.....

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        • #34
          Here is the smoke, no fire. Apparently Ted Thompson has coveted Jackson in the past. They have no idea if he does now, but in the past, whoo-boy, has he coveted him some Jackson. Significant packages were offered in Mort's mind, but the Rams resisted because their hearts are pure.

          This story is mule fritters warming over a tropical depression. Its the Rams trying to drum up interest.

          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Here is the smoke, no fire. Apparently Ted Thompson has coveted Jackson in the past. They have no idea if he does now, but in the past, whoo-boy, has he coveted him some Jackson. Significant packages were offered in Mort's mind, but the Rams resisted because their hearts are pure.

            This story is mule fritters warming over a tropical depression. Its the Rams trying to drum up interest.

            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/85...terest-sources
            LOL. That's some Great Dolomite stuff there.
            C.H.U.D.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
              LOL. That's some Great Dolomite stuff there.
              And now Sporting News is reporting that ESPN is reporting that the Packers are interested in Jackson. I would say much ado about nothing.

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              • #37
                Most of you saying no to this are the same ones that always say GB doesn't need a good running game. Also the same ones that declared Marshawn Lynch was washed up, looks like your wrong on both. Please TT pull the trigger on this, this team NEEDS this. The GB offense looks mediocre at best right now, and it's NOT because Jennings is injured.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                  Most of you saying no to this are the same ones that always say GB doesn't need a good running game. Also the same ones that declared Marshawn Lynch was washed up, looks like your wrong on both. Please TT pull the trigger on this, this team NEEDS this. The GB offense looks mediocre at best right now, and it's NOT because Jennings is injured.
                  At what draft pick?
                  Go PACK

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                    Most of you saying no to this are the same ones that always say GB doesn't need a good running game. Also the same ones that declared Marshawn Lynch was washed up, looks like your wrong on both. Please TT pull the trigger on this, this team NEEDS this. The GB offense looks mediocre at best right now, and it's NOT because Jennings is injured.
                    Pull the trigger on what? What's the deal that would be acceptable? If he really would cost 3.5 to 4.0 million, they seem to have the cap space (but it would use up about all they have). But what do they give up for him? A 2nd? A 1st?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Pull the trigger on what? What's the deal that would be acceptable? If he really would cost 3.5 to 4.0 million, they seem to have the cap space (but it would use up about all they have). But what do they give up for him? A 2nd? A 1st?
                      Definitely worth a second imo. Better yet try and throw Finley in just to get rid of the bum.

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                      • #41
                        Cedric Benson is OLDER than Steven Jackson by 9 months.
                        Cedric Benson has 600 LESS touches than Steven Jackson.
                        Cedric Benson has missed 22 games in 8 seasons.
                        Steven Jackson has missed 13 games in 9 seasons.
                        Cedric Benson has a career average of 3.8 yards.
                        Steven Jackson has a career average of 4.2 yards.
                        Cedric Benson has fumbled while running 20 times in 96 games.
                        Steven Jackson has fumbled while running 18 times in 123 games. (Jackson does have 5 receiving fumbles, though earlier in his career.)
                        Steven Jackson has TRIPLE the receiving yards that Cedric Benson does.
                        Steven Jackson has 67 career touchdowns to Cedric Benson's 33 career touchdowns. More than double the production.

                        I think we were all super excited to finally have a real running-back, but Ced Benson isn't really the elite back we all think he is. He's certainly good, but not great. I'm not saying that Steven Jackson is great, but I like him more than Ced Benson. He's pretty much the same back as Ced Benson at this stage in his career, but one thing he is right now that Ced Benson isn't is healthy.
                        Last edited by OS PA; 10-29-2012, 09:14 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Strange. I was thinking a 5th or a 6th... what do I know?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                            Definitely worth a second imo. Better yet try and throw Finley in just to get rid of the bum.
                            You'd give up a second round pick for an aging running back with a ton of carries who's a free agent after this season?

                            Please become the GM of an NFL team that's not the Packers...

                            If TT spent a second round pick on a player who missed the first 8 games, played great for the next 8, and then never played for the Packers again... we'd say that's a bad pick.
                            Last edited by Lurker64; 10-29-2012, 10:54 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Green Bay Packers 2nd round picks under Ted Thompson
                              2012 Jerel Worthy, Casey Hayward
                              2011 Randall Cobb
                              2010 Mike Neal
                              2009 Traded to NE along with two thirds for Clay Matthews and Jamon Meredith
                              2008 Jordy Nelson, Brian Brohm, Pat Lee
                              2007 Brandon Jackson
                              2006 Daryn College, Greg Jennings
                              2005 Nick Collins, Terrence Murphy

                              So, we're looking at our top three receivers, a Safety who will go to the Packers Hall of Fame, three below average guys that started for us and are now with other teams, a below average defensive lineman, Thompson's worst pick, an unfortunate injury, and the two rookies this year. Hayward is definitely a pro and Worthy is at least active. 2009 is tough to judge, but I think that it is safe to say that if we didn't have the value of a 2nd round pick to move up we wouldn't have Clay Matthews on the team.

                              That's a lot of value from the second round. Tons of games started, a bunch of pro bowlers, and probably an NFL Hall of Famer. Let's keep that pick. Lynch was a better deal, because he was under contract for the next year. Seattle gave up what became a 4 and 5 for him. I would love to have Stephen Jackson on the team but not for anything higher than a fourth round pick.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                                Definitely worth a second imo. Better yet try and throw Finley in just to get rid of the bum.
                                A second for 8 games from him? He will be a free agent at the end of the year. That's not much of a return on a second round draft pick. There is no guarantee that Jackson will make the difference between winning the SB and not winning it. They won a SB with Starks, and they should have Benson back later this year. They could get Jackson, then have Rodgers go down for multiple games.

                                I think there is a reasonable value for the opportunity of adding Jackson to the mix the remainder of the year, but I don't think it is as high as a 2nd round draft pick. Not when he will be a free agent for 2013. I don't think it is as high as a 3rd. A 4th, maybe, but even that seems kind of high.

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