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  • The offensive O-line, Barclay the answer?

    Sometimes the "double switch" to cover for an injury works, but it is usually when the backup at the switch position is a borderline starter. For example, the double switch worked when:
    • Tauscher periodically played guard in place of Rivera, and Earl Dotson came in for Tauscher. Dotson was a long-time starter at RT, and was not starting primarily due to a troublesome back issue. The drop-off at RT was not significant.
    • Flanagan moved out to LT, and Winters returned to starting center. Again, a long-time starter who was still capable came in at his normal position and allowed the double switch to work.


    The current double switch for the replacement of Bulaga may be making a suspect O-line a very weak one. By moving Lang to RT and Dietrich-Smith to starting guard, they really have two players playing out of position, positions they are not best suited for.. EDS is said to be a center long term, not a guard. By moving Lang, two positions are now significantly weaker.

    Might they be better off biting the bullet and trying Barclay at RT while returning Lang to LG? The loss of Bulaga would then weaken only one position, not two, even if the one position is significantly weaker.

  • #2
    I've wondered that too, you could keep in a TE or RB to help him out. NY has one of the best D-lines though, Super Bowl caliber.
    Thanks Ted!

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    • #3
      A strong point, because Lang really struggled last night.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        By moving Lang to RT and Dietrich-Smith to starting guard, they really have two players playing out of position, positions they are not best suited for
        I'm not a big fan of these kinds of moves for this reason. I think moving Lang and plugging EDS in essentially is like putting in two new starters instead of one, since Lang has been at LG. The way GB likes to have OLinemen play multiple positions might mitigate that a little, but I think Lang is better suited to G than T. That said, who else can play T? Wasn't Barclay's play iffy in preseason?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Sometimes the "double switch" to cover for an injury works, but it is usually when the backup at the switch position is a borderline starter. For example, the double switch worked when:
          • Tauscher periodically played guard in place of Rivera, and Earl Dotson came in for Tauscher. Dotson was a long-time starter at RT, and was not starting primarily due to a troublesome back issue. The drop-off at RT was not significant.
          • Flanagan moved out to LT, and Winters returned to starting center. Again, a long-time starter who was still capable came in at his normal position and allowed the double switch to work.


          The current double switch for the replacement of Bulaga may be making a suspect O-line a very weak one. By moving Lang to RT and Dietrich-Smith to starting guard, they really have two players playing out of position, positions they are not best suited for.. EDS is said to be a center long term, not a guard. By moving Lang, two positions are now significantly weaker.

          Might they be better off biting the bullet and trying Barclay at RT while returning Lang to LG? The loss of Bulaga would then weaken only one position, not two, even if the one position is significantly weaker.
          If the Packers are truly a playoff team and not the hapless, tasteless team we saw last night, they would be better off NOT experiencing with an undrafted rookie nobody (Barclay) at this stage of the season. Could get Rodgers killed and disturb order in the universe if they do (not that Rodgers isn't getting killed with the current lineup).

          I am in favor of bringing back Clifton to play LT. Move Newhouse to RT, move Lang back to LG, and get EDS out of the line up.

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          • #6
            I'd love to be a fly on the wall at 1265 Lombardi Ave today. I believe that Friday is decision time on Sherrod, right? Have to wonder if they feel like they have to move him to the active roster, just on the off chance that he could be ready in 4-5 weeks.
            Go PACK

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            • #7
              Lang may have struggled but he never looked as bad as Newhouse. Newhouse is so slow. He may still be on the field

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              • #8
                Voodoo dolls of ALL of the front sevens that Packers OL will face the rest of the season and with pain pins in them, is what will fix Packers OL this season.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                  Lang may have struggled but he never looked as bad as Newhouse. Newhouse is so slow. He may still be on the field
                  Lang got a lot more help. Newhouse had a lot more 1-1s.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #10
                    Was MN that bad? When I did watch him, it seemed he did ok, not great but ok.

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                    • #11
                      what happen to all the depth i thought we had? we've been drafting guys for years that can play multiple positions on the line. now we lose one fucking starter and we look like a god damn joke.

                      no one last night looked like they were comfortable playing where they were playing

                      heres a question for MM. you gave lang extra help on the right side all night, leaving newhouse 1 on 1 with osi. HUGE MISTAKE. why is it so difficult for you to say during the game, "ok, we need help on the left side too. lets get rid of one of the 5 wr's that a-rod doesn't have time to throw to, and throw a TE like crabtree in there to do nothing but help newhouse block".

                      why couldn't we make that adjustment? it was clear about 10 minutes into the game that we needed a lot more help up front

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                        Was MN that bad? When I did watch him, it seemed he did ok, not great but ok.
                        he was that bad, but like DY said. he was left 1 on 1 all night with one of the best pass rushers in the game. no help at all, no chip blocks, no nothing

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                          Lang may have struggled but he never looked as bad as Newhouse. Newhouse is so slow. He may still be on the field
                          This made me laugh. Well played.
                          All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            ... now we lose one fucking starter and we look like a god damn joke.
                            I was not very impressed with the play of the O-line before we lost Bulaga.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              I was not very impressed with the play of the O-line before we lost Bulaga.
                              that is true, bulaga was having a pretty crappy year

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