How good can this team become?

[Patler]

- Injuries galore.
- 1st round draft picks for the last 3 years all on IR.
- Two leading receivers from last year in and out of the lineup, one mostly out.
- An O-line that can't get out of its own way sometimes.
- Overall play on offense that hasn't been in sync all year.
- A FG kicker that lost it completely for a month and counting.
- Best defensive player out for a month.
- Leader and possibly future HOF'er on defense out for two months.
- 3rd string ILB, with no experience inside, forced into a starting role.
- Rookies and inexperienced players thrust into significant roles all over the team.

In spite of all that, the team is 8-4 and one horrendous officiating call away from being 9-3. They are a 2 quarter coma away from being 10-2 (collapse against the Colts). For the most part, their wins have been solid, even if not very pretty. This year, they have been anything but lucky in getting their wins. They kept their composure when it could have been easily lost when they started the season at 2-3 and were facing perhaps the best overall team in the league.

With all that considered, I have to conclude it is a team of amazing depth for the NFL today, and a team with solid character from the head coach to the last man on the roster.

[woodbuck27]

San Francisco 49ers
Sun, 09/09 at 3:25 PM CDT
Home: Lambeau Field
Loss: 30 - 22

Chicago Bears
Thu, 09/13 at 7:20 PM CDT
Home: Lambeau Field
Win: 23 - 10

@ Seattle Seahawks
Mon, 09/24 at 7:30 PM CDT
Away: CenturyLink Field
Loss: 14 - 12 (Robbed !)

New Orleans Saints
Sun, 09/30 at 3:25 PM CDT
Home: Lambeau Field
Win: 28 - 27

@ Indianapolis Colts
Sun, 10/07 at 12:00 PM CDT
Away: Lucas Oil Stadium
Loss: 30 - 27 (We went to sleep)

@ Houston Texans
Sun, 10/14 at 7:20 PM CDT
Away: Reliant Stadium
Win: 42 - 24

@ Detroit Lions
Sun, 11/18 at 12:00 PM CST
Away: Ford Field
Win: 24 - 20

@ New York Giants
Sun, 11/25 at 7:20 PM CST
Away: MetLife Stadium
Loss: 38 - 10 ( We didn't show up for that game)

Minnesota Vikings
Sun, 12/02 at 12:00 PM CST
Home: Lambeau Field
Win: 23 - 14 ..... This was a very close game and 'a must win'.

IMO... these games above, are the important games to use to assess our season to date.

In these nine games we have a record of 5-4 and that offsetting win was by a score of 28-27 over 'the Saints' in Lambeau Field.

We were robbed of a 'W' in Seattle.

GO PACKERS !

[Patler]

I don't understand your analysis. Every loss is important, but not every win? Beating the Rams, who have a better record than the Lions and tied the 49ers, who thumped the Packers, is not important in your analysis?

[Fritz]

[QUOTE=Patler;699017]- Injuries galore.
- 1st round draft picks for the last 3 years all on IR.
- Two leading receivers from last year in and out of the lineup, one mostly out.
- An O-line that can't get out of its own way sometimes.
- Overall play on offense that hasn't been in sync all year.
- A FG kicker that lost it completely for a month and counting.
- Best defensive player out for a month.
- Leader and possibly future HOF'er on defense out for two months.
- 3rd string ILB, with no experience inside, forced into a starting role.
- Rookies and inexperienced players thrust into significant roles all over the team.

In spite of all that, the team is 8-4 and one horrendous officiating call away from being 9-3. They are a 2 quarter coma away from being 10-2 (collapse against the Colts). For the most part, their wins have been solid, even if not very pretty. This year, they have been anything but lucky in getting their wins. They kept their composure when it could have been easily lost when they started the season at 2-3 and were facing perhaps the best overall team in the league.

With all that considered, I have to conclude it is a team of amazing depth for the NFL today, and a team with solid character from the head coach to the last man on the roster.[/QUOTE]

Maybe so, but the beer vendor in section 113 is a pretty shady character, I hear.

[woodbuck27]

I don't understand your analysis. Every loss is important, but not every win? Beating the Rams, who have a better record than the Lions and tied the 49ers, who thumped the Packers, is not important in your analysis?

" Every loss is important, but not every win? " Patler

Excuse me Patler but I simply chose nine games to look at in an analysis. Including games involving the teams in our division and the top best teams on our schedule to date (in that regard, the Saints may be a debateable choice).

I don't draw any distinction between a loss or a win but simply highlight the win.

Why does it appear that your attempting to draw anyone who may have an opinion on your stances into a noose? That noose wrapped with a ribbon engraved in gold and expounding ' the greatness of TT and MM '.

Raw Raw Raw ! TT and MM are awesome.

Dear Lord ...RELAX Patler. Do we need to look at anything NFL, to draw attention to and satisfy 'any of your need', to justify your passions over TT and MM?

RAW ! RAW !! RAW !!!!

TT and MM are AWESOME !!

[Zool]

" Every loss is important, but not every win? " Patler

Excuse me Patler but I simply chose nine games to look at in an analysis. Including games involving the teams in our division and the top best teams on our schedule to date (in that regard, the Saints may be a debateable choice).

I don't draw any distinction between a loss or a win but simply highlight the win.

Why does it appear that your attempting to draw anyone who may have an opinion on your stances into a noose? That noose wrapped with a ribbon engraved in gold and expounding ' the greatness of TT and MM '.

Raw Raw Raw ! TT and MM are awesome.

Dear Lord ...RELAX Patler. Do we need to look at anything NFL, to draw attention to and satisfy 'any of your need', to justify your passions over TT and MM.

RAW ! RAW !! RAW !!!!

TT and MM are AWESOME !!

Why is it when you get questioned on anything you say, you get defensive?

[pittstang5]

With all that considered, I have to conclude it is a team of amazing depth for the NFL today, and a team with solid character from the head coach to the last man on the roster.

See above - that's why I think this team is 8-4 and not 4-8 - Depth, no, quality depth. How many teams could lose as many starters and even 2nd stringers, and still be 8-4? My guess - not many.

[Upnorth]

Without injuries to the oline this team would be the top SB contender. With those injuries I just hope to win a game.

[woodbuck27]

Why is it when you get questioned on anything you say, you get defensive?

Did I break any of the Forum Rules?

Have I acted disrespectfully?

[LEWCWA]

I would say MM and TT have done an admirable job putting this team together. Tough to deny that. Everyone has injuries to deal with Look at the steelers keeping their heads afloat minus the hair man, minus big ben, minus mendenhal, minus harrison for stretches....seems we emulate the steelers very closely. Could we stay afloat minus rodgers though....

[Freak Out]

Good stuff Snoopy (such a smart dog). Pretty amazing when you think about it....Hopefully we get CM3 and Chuck back in the nick of time. The thing that still really impresses me is the game in Houston. Talk about taking a shot to the chin and then coming back and knocking out the Champ. That game really showed what those guys are made of.

So there is hope despite all that has happened along the way.

[pittstang5]

I would say MM and TT have done an admirable job putting this team together. Tough to deny that. Everyone has injuries to deal with Look at the steelers keeping their heads afloat minus the hair man, minus big ben, minus mendenhal, minus harrison for stretches....seems we emulate the steelers very closely. Could we stay afloat minus rodgers though....

Behind the current o-line - no way. I swear, Rogers can "feel" pressure sometimes.

[woodbuck27]

I would say MM and TT have done an admirable job putting this team together. Tough to deny that. Everyone has injuries to deal with Look at the steelers keeping their heads afloat minus the hair man, minus big ben, minus mendenhal, minus harrison for stretches....seems we emulate the steelers very closely. Could we stay afloat minus rodgers though....

"Could we stay afloat minus rodgers though.... " LEWCWA

Thinking about the horror of the above question. It's been said that " an NFL team is 'only as strong' as it's backup QB " .

GO PACKERS !

[LEWCWA]

Behind the current o-line - no way. I swear, Rogers can "feel" pressure sometimes.

I would say he feels pressure when it isn't there quite a bit and that has been some of the problem on offense. Not that I blame him. I do believe that sometimes a QB has to stand in the pocket and take the hit while delivering a strike. It could be selective memory, but I don't see arod do that much....

[Patler]

" Every loss is important, but not every win? " Patler

Excuse me Patler but I simply chose nine games to look at in an analysis. Including games involving the teams in our division and the top best teams on our schedule to date (in that regard, the Saints may be a debateable choice).

I don't draw any distinction between a loss or a win but simply highlight the win.

Why does it appear that your attempting to draw anyone who may have an opinion on your stances into a noose? That noose wrapped with a ribbon engraved in gold and expounding ' the greatness of TT and MM '.

Raw Raw Raw ! TT and MM are awesome.

Dear Lord ...RELAX Patler. Do we need to look at anything NFL, to draw attention to and satisfy 'any of your need', to justify your passions over TT and MM.

RAW ! RAW !! RAW !!!!

TT and MM are AWESOME !!

You got all of that that from my brief, straight-forward (I thought) two line reply with two simple questions about your analysis. You take that simple reply and blow it into a hidden agenda on my part for TT and MM? And you suggest that I should relax???????

There is a reason I usually ignore your posts, and do not even consider replying to them. Every time I do reply, I am reminded why I normally do not.

I have been reminded again.