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  • #16
    "Starks out for the year?!?"

    You're kidding me......

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    • #17
      This is neither surprising nor much of a concern to me. It has been one injury after another with Starks, I was expecting something sooner or later. For the last two seasons, Starks gives the illusion of accomplishing something as a RB because of an occasional run here and there, but when you look at the entire performance in a game or season, he has been no better than Grant or Green.

      The Packers running game is bad with Starks and isn't likely to be any worse without him.

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      • #18
        Just when I finally can cope with the injuries, this happens. Are we losing 1 player a game? Sure feels like it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          This is neither surprising nor much of a concern to me. It has been one injury after another with Starks, I was expecting something sooner or later. For the last two seasons, Starks gives the illusion of accomplishing something as a RB because of an occasional run here and there, but when you look at the entire performance in a game or season, he has been no better than Grant or Green.

          The Packers running game is bad with Starks and isn't likely to be any worse without him.
          I am not sure how you can say it isn't likely to be any worse. The guy was not a world-beater, but he ran hard and seemed better at reading holes than Green. On top of that, he is very likely more assignment-sure than a DeJuan Harris, who has not played for this team at all and is raw.

          This reminds me of 2010. The injuries are fucking relentless. It's pissing me off.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
            I am not sure how you can say it isn't likely to be any worse. The guy was not a world-beater, but he ran hard and seemed better at reading holes than Green. On top of that, he is very likely more assignment-sure than a DeJuan Harris, who has not played for this team at all and is raw.

            This reminds me of 2010. The injuries are fucking relentless. It's pissing me off.
            That's just it, he "seemed" better than Green, and last year he "seemed" better than Grant, but when all is in, his performance has been no better than theirs. He runs hard and breaks a few tackles on a couple plays, or gets a 22 yard TD, and everyone forgets all the other plays in which he lost 1 or 2. Remember last year when I did the carry by carry comparisons for games in which both Grant and Starks played? Starks usually had one bigger run, but a lot more negative plays than Grant. Same this year. On Sunday, even with his 22 yard TD, Starks had a lower per carry average on 15 carries than Green did on his 12 carries. If you take out his three carries for 9 yards in the Packers last clock-killing possession, Starks was 12/57 including the 22 yarder, and Green was 12/58 with a long of 11.

            Starks as a runner is more of an an illusion than reality. Running behind the same blockers in the same games, overall he has done no better than Grant or Green, even though at times he looks like he is.

            As for being more assignment sure than others, when Starks became healthy a few weeks ago, yet was playing very little, several writers reported that Starks wasn't being given more opportunities because he is still too shaky in his assignments, even with more experience than Green.

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            • #21
              Ok Patler, I feel a little better. I guess we need our offensive line to st....oh wait
              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                This is neither surprising nor much of a concern to me. It has been one injury after another with Starks, I was expecting something sooner or later.
                Injury Prone!!
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  That's just it, he "seemed" better than Green, and last year he "seemed" better than Grant, but when all is in, his performance has been no better than theirs. He runs hard and breaks a few tackles on a couple plays, or gets a 22 yard TD, and everyone forgets all the other plays in which he lost 1 or 2. Remember last year when I did the carry by carry comparisons for games in which both Grant and Starks played? Starks usually had one bigger run, but a lot more negative plays than Grant. Same this year. On Sunday, even with his 22 yard TD, Starks had a lower per carry average on 15 carries than Green did on his 12 carries. If you take out his three carries for 9 yards in the Packers last clock-killing possession, Starks was 12/57 including the 22 yarder, and Green was 12/58 with a long of 11.

                  Starks as a runner is more of an an illusion than reality. Running behind the same blockers in the same games, overall he has done no better than Grant or Green, even though at times he looks like he is.

                  As for being more assignment sure than others, when Starks became healthy a few weeks ago, yet was playing very little, several writers reported that Starks wasn't being given more opportunities because he is still too shaky in his assignments, even with more experience than Green.
                  Patler, again to the rescue with meaningless stats.

                  However, up until Sunday, I noticed Starks ran with more authority than Green had in the past. Sunday, the times I saw Green run, he looked like Starks.

                  Still, another injury to this team just hurts.

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                  • #24
                    Can we get Grant back now? I have a jersey and everything!
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                      Just when I finally can cope with the injuries, this happens. Are we losing 1 player a game? Sure feels like it.
                      typically it has been about three.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                        Can we get Grant back now? I have a jersey and everything!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                          Injury Prone!!

                          That term along with 'elite' need never be used again.
                          Last edited by sheepshead; 12-05-2012, 09:09 AM.
                          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                          • #28
                            I wonder what De'Mond Parker is doing these days.

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                            • #29
                              Bring on DaJuan Harris and Johnny White!
                              If you're TT, do you hope Starks can make it back in a couple weeks, go with Harris/White, call Ryan Grant or Marc Tyler, or sign someone else?

                              My guess is TT stands pat.

                              I don't think Starks falls into the "quick healer" category, so I wouldn't be surprised if he goes on IR. I doubt it's a huge loss, but it still matters.

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                              • #30
                                We gotta find whomever has that injury voodoo doll and take it from them.
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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