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    Are the Packers Tough?

    Once upon a time, on a Sunday afternoon, a gunslinger replaced an injured Don What's-His-Name and led the Packers to victory in the clutch. The following Sunday, this gunslinger started his very first game for the Green Bay Packers. No other quarterback would start a game for the Packers again...until the toot-toot train departed from the station without The Gunslinger on it.

    In a league full of fragile men, The Gunslinger was the toughest of them all.

    Point is, Favre used just tape up an injury, maybe pop in some painkillers, and he would be ready for battle on Sundays.

    I can understand the season-ending injuries that guys like Bishop, Smith and Benson sustained. But guys like Nelson, Jennings, Shields and Matthews? WTF!?!?! Quit being wimps. Tape it up, stretch it out, and play!

    In one of my competitive, 12-teams money FF leagues, I -being the homer I am- have Jennings, Nelson and Packer D/ST to go along with Cobb, Finley and Crosby. Jennings probably cost me a bunch of games. Last week, I needed a victory to clinch my division and therefore make the playoffs; a loss and I'm out. Nelson just had to go and pull out with a fucking hammy injury - I lost and my season is done

    Hammy injury? Pulease, girls (Nelson and Mathews)! Some short shut down corner once shut down Darren Charles with both hamstrings at only 60% healthy.

    Sorry but I just gotta vent!
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  • #2
    Originally posted by LegandofthePack15 View Post
    Once upon a time, on a Sunday afternoon, a gunslinger replaced an injured Don What's-His-Name and led the Packers to victory in the clutch. The following Sunday, this gunslinger started his very first game for the Green Bay Packers. No other quarterback would start a game for the Packers again...until the toot-toot train departed from the station without The Gunslinger on it.

    In a league full of fragile men, The Gunslinger was the toughest of them all.

    Point is, Favre used just tape up an injury, maybe pop in some painkillers, and he would be ready for battle on Sundays.

    I can understand the season-ending injuries that guys like Bishop, Smith and Benson sustained. But guys like Nelson, Jennings, Shields and Matthews? WTF!?!?! Quit being wimps. Tape it up, stretch it out, and play!

    In one of my competitive, 12-teams money FF leagues, I -being the homer I am- have Jennings, Nelson and Packer D/ST to go along with Cobb, Finley and Crosby. Jennings probably cost me a bunch of games. Last week, I needed a victory to clinch my division and therefore make the playoffs; a loss and I'm out. Nelson just had to go and pull out with a fucking hammy injury - I lost and my season is done

    Hammy injury? Pulease, girls (Nelson and Mathews)! Some short shut down corner once shut down Darren Charles with both hamstrings at only 60% healthy.

    Sorry but I just gotta vent!
    This rings way too close to home.

    My FF team (12 team, huge pot) has Nelson, Rodgers, Jennings, Starks, and Packers D/ST. I loaded up waiting for the offensive juggernaut. It never came, and I am the laughing stock of my league
    "In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."

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    • #3
      Favre was a freak of nature and will power. There just aren't that many guys like him in the league. That's why he was so special. To expect that every player will be able to play though injuries is not logical. Stubby is plenty tough, but he's also plenty smart. His policy towards injuries is to protect the players and bring them back healthy as possible. This accomplishes two goals: 1) the players are healed, can play effectively, and don't risk further, more severe injury and 2) he has the support, admiration, and loyalty of his players, because they know he places their interests at the top of his priorities. This inevitably leads to better production from players. Even so, the training staff and Stubby aren't perfect, so that some guys may come back too soon or remain on the sidelines too long, but it's really hard to tell from a fan's perspective when either is happening.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #4
        Favre was addicted to pain killers! Nelson and Mathews are needed at top shape not 80% and we have the depth on the team to wait until they are tip top.
        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          Favre was a freak of nature and will power. There just aren't that many guys like him in the league. That's why he was so special. To expect that every player will be able to play though injuries is not logical. Stubby is plenty tough, but he's also plenty smart. His policy towards injuries is to protect the players and bring them back healthy as possible. This accomplishes two goals: 1) the players are healed, can play effectively, and don't risk further, more severe injury and 2) he has the support, admiration, and loyalty of his players, because they know he places their interests at the top of his priorities. This inevitably leads to better production from players. Even so, the training staff and Stubby aren't perfect, so that some guys may come back too soon or remain on the sidelines too long, but it's really hard to tell from a fan's perspective when either is happening.
          I think M3 holds guys back longer to keep fresh legs in the stable come December and January.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
            I think M3 holds guys back longer to keep fresh legs in the stable come December and January.
            They are probably erring on the side of letting guys take some extra rehab time since they are in a pretty good spot with their record.
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LegandofthePack15 View Post
              Once upon a time, on a Sunday afternoon, a gunslinger replaced an injured Don What's-His-Name and led the Packers to victory in the clutch. The following Sunday, this gunslinger started his very first game for the Green Bay Packers. No other quarterback would start a game for the Packers again...until the toot-toot train departed from the station without The Gunslinger on it.

              In a league full of fragile men, The Gunslinger was the toughest of them all.

              Point is, Favre used just tape up an injury, maybe pop in some painkillers, and he would be ready for battle on Sundays.

              I can understand the season-ending injuries that guys like Bishop, Smith and Benson sustained. But guys like Nelson, Jennings, Shields and Matthews? WTF!?!?! Quit being wimps. Tape it up, stretch it out, and play!

              In one of my competitive, 12-teams money FF leagues, I -being the homer I am- have Jennings, Nelson and Packer D/ST to go along with Cobb, Finley and Crosby. Jennings probably cost me a bunch of games. Last week, I needed a victory to clinch my division and therefore make the playoffs; a loss and I'm out. Nelson just had to go and pull out with a fucking hammy injury - I lost and my season is done

              Hammy injury? Pulease, girls (Nelson and Mathews)! Some short shut down corner once shut down Darren Charles with both hamstrings at only 60% healthy.

              Sorry but I just gotta vent!
              I just don't understand why you're not in the nfl. You supposedly shut down some nfl player in junior high or something, and you're tougher than Clay Matthews.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                I just don't understand why you're not in the nfl. You supposedly shut down some nfl player in junior high or something, and you're tougher than Clay Matthews.
                The "shutdown corner legend" was his first foray into fantasy football.

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                • #9
                  MM has mentioned before that because Matthews' hamstring problems are chronic, more caution is used. With this being Jordy's 2nd hamstring injury this year, the same probably applies.
                  I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                    The "shutdown corner legend" was his first foray into fantasy football.

                    that's funny stuff. You just got repped.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #11
                      I remember when the Packers played the 49ers a few years ago and they were supposed to be so tough -- we were tough. Not the same team anymore. I've always thought we were underrated in that area, but now we're just not tough. Even as overachievers in that area.

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                      • #12
                        Where can I pick up a hamstringometer that will tell me the health of hamstrings in an easy to read percentage? That would be a handy device.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #13
                          If we had our full compliment of players available I submit we'd be tough enough. Its hard to be a force when you have so many starters in street clothes.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zool View Post
                            Where can I pick up a hamstringometer that will tell me the health of hamstrings in an easy to read percentage? That would be a handy device.
                            Funny you should mention that.

                            I have a friend who is the CEO of a local start-up that is trying to do just that. They actual went out to Arizona this last spring to do measurements on pitchers arms in MLB. The funny thing is the pitchers were the ones that didn't want the results for 2 reasons.

                            1. If management knows my elbow legament is ready to tear; they aren't going to sign me for 4 years and $60M.

                            2. If they know that their elbow was ready to pop they wouldn't throw as hard trying to protect themself from injury becoming less effective.
                            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                            -Tim Harmston

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              MM has mentioned before that because Matthews' hamstring problems are chronic, more caution is used. With this being Jordy's 2nd hamstring injury this year, the same probably applies.
                              Matthews is elite but he's a hamstring pull waiting to happen. I think Matthews should henceforth be known as WIMP Clay until he proves otherwise.

                              Rodgers was once known as "Erin." Then "Erin" won the Super Bowl and then the NFL MVP and everybody started calling him Rodgers or A-Rod (which, btw, is a trademark infringement as some 'roid popping, highly paid, third baseman for the Yankees has already trademarked the name). Sucks that this season, A-Rod is playing like Erin.

                              Don't even get me started with "Bert or Brent."

                              On an unrelated note, I was sad when they cancelled "United States of Tara." Great show.

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