Fine time cheapshot coward

[woodbuck27]

That bitch was G&G hating wasn't he? Made me sick with his attempt to sound like Gruden. Shit like "Well THIS Calvin Johnson is a beast". WTF is the "THIS" bullshit? Fucking dork!

Ouuugh ! You don't like Chris?

[mraynrand]

I'm pretty sick of Moses giving up contain, too. That has to be the prime directive for any outside defender. Turn the play back inside.


He's a good, young kid & all, but shit, do your job bub.

I have to check the tape, but with only four D linemen available, I think there was some emphasis on the OLBs to crash hard inside; the rook may have overdone it, especially on the Stratford TD.

[RashanGary]

I still can't understand that holding call on Sitton. Just breathtaking attention to imaginary detail. I normally hold that complaining about calls is a sign of a losing fan base. But it seems even more haphazard this year. even Hoculi has lost some definition and length on his explanations.

Yeah, and there was a hold on Moses that was ridiculous. He was fucking right past the RT and the guy had him from behind. Ridiculous.

[RashanGary]

I'm pretty sick of Moses giving up contain, too. That has to be the prime directive for any outside defender. Turn the play back inside.


He's a good, young kid & all, but shit, do your job bub.

I didn't notice, but I believe ya.

He's got some pass rush in him though. He seems like the only guy really winning one on ones, even if it's not quite as regularly as you'd like (of course, the guys who win them regularly are superstars.)

I'll be very interested to see Moses when Clay comes back. You line Moses up outside the guard, and Matthews up outside the tackle, I could see Moses really destroying an OG. Tackles have trouble keeping him from getting the corner. He'd get sure thing one on ones against guards. Then you bring one of the ILBs sweeping in to cover that inside gap Moses and Matthews would leave by rushing up field. . . . . With their talents, I think something like that could be money.

If you had Moses and Matthews heading up field against the G and T, you could also have Raji and whoever the other DT is crashing to that left side of the offense (to avoid having such a big hole for the QB to run through), with a blitzer coming off the offenses right edge. to keep the pocket tight.

No matter the case, I think those two guys have up field rushes. Matthews being a superstar, able to destroy tackles, and Moses being darn good, good enough to destroy slower footed guards. Find a way to make that work.

[pbmax]

Yeah, and there was a hold on Moses that was ridiculous. He was fucking right past the RT and the guy had him from behind. Ridiculous.

The other one (non-call version) from left field was the first Lions outside run to Walden's side. Walden had the edge and began to disengage. He disengaged, his jersey didn't. It was glued to Scheffler's meaty paw.

Both the Umpire and Ref are back behind the QB and neither saw it even though it was in the direction of the ball. Horrible.

[sharpe1027]

The other one (non-call version) from left field was the first Lions outside run to Walden's side. Walden had the edge and began to disengage. He disengaged, his jersey didn't. It was glued to Scheffler's meaty paw.

Both the Umpire and Ref are back behind the QB and neither saw it even though it was in the direction of the ball. Horrible.

Yes. That one ended up with a big run as a result.

[Fritz]

Of course, Stafford ran right past a bewildered Frank Zombo on that td run. I'm convinced the only reason Zombo is on the team is
because he's Clay Matthews' BFF.

[Patler]

Maybe my memory is off, but I remember Zombo as a rookie being decent against the run. He doesn't look like the same player I remember as a rookie. Not that he was great or anything close, but I remember him as being somewhat reliable. He's not showing that right now.

Too much rust?
Too many injuries?

[Pugger]

Maybe my memory is off, but I remember Zombo as a rookie being decent against the run. He doesn't look like the same player I remember as a rookie. Not that he was great or anything close, but I remember him as being somewhat reliable. He's not showing that right now.

Too much rust?
Too many injuries?

Probably both.

[pbmax]

Maybe my memory is off, but I remember Zombo as a rookie being decent against the run. He doesn't look like the same player I remember as a rookie. Not that he was great or anything close, but I remember him as being somewhat reliable. He's not showing that right now.

Too much rust?
Too many injuries?

Mix of that plus hard to reconcile with memory. Zombo was good versus run compared to original Walden, v1.0. But he got sucked inside quite a bit as well as a rook.

Before Turkey Day last year, Walden might have been the best versus the run.

I am curious whether, as someone speculated earlier, if the OLBs were supposed to crash down in nickel, and someone else was responsible for contain on that Stafford TD. Or if he just bought the fake.

[mraynrand]

Mix of that plus hard to reconcile with memory. Zombo was good versus run compared to original Walden, v1.0. But he got sucked inside quite a bit as well as a rook.

Before Turkey Day last year, Walden might have been the best versus the run.

I am curious whether, as someone speculated earlier, if the OLBs were supposed to crash down in nickel, and someone else was responsible for contain on that Stafford TD. Or if he just bought the fake.

At least on one run, they were expecting House to hold the outside, and he missed a tackle badly. You might think that's one reason they replaced him with Shields, but is Shields gonna tackle any better?

[pbmax]

At least on one run, they were expecting House to hold the outside, and he missed a tackle badly. You might think that's one reason they replaced him with Shields, but is Shields gonna tackle any better?

Shields was definitely more willing this year, but he is probably not House in the dept.

[pbmax]

wrong thread

[woodbuck27]

At least on one run, they were expecting House to hold the outside, and he missed a tackle badly. You might think that's one reason they replaced him with Shields, but is Shields gonna tackle any better?

Would size factor into that question RE: better tackler?

Sam Shields ... 5-11 and 184 lbs

Devon house ... 6-1 and 195 lbs

Otherwise, it appears as if their about even.