Packers seem to be finished with Finley

[Pugger]

I really suspect the timing of this little report. I doubt it came from anybody near the top. I can't imagine TT or MM letting something like this known just a couple of days before the most important game of the season so I'm not buying it.

[Patler]

I really suspect the timing of this little report. I doubt it came from anybody near the top. I can't imagine TT or MM letting something like this known just a couple of days before the most important game of the season so I'm not buying it.

I doubt that the "sources familiar with the Packers' thinking" that he refers to are even Packer employees. If they were, he would likely imply such more directly.

[LegandofthePack15]

I hardly ever respond to you because I find your generalizatoins lacking evidence to support your claims but this one goes over the top...and obviously lacks evidence for support.

How many passes has Finley dropped this year ? Could that be a reason MM and Rodgers don't trust the guy a lot ?
Who is the starter leading the NFL right now for percentage of drops as opposed to passes thrown to him ? Think that could be relevant to why he's out of a game plan ?
A dozen times a game ? Rewatch a few of these. He's often chipping a blocker and sometimes doesn't get out to his route soon enough to even be considered.
You could argue he's being used wrong but the dozen times a game is another senseless generalization.

In case you weren't paying attention this week Finley has already lipped off to the Bears this week. He noted Urlacher was losing it.
Then he noted that the Bears D is probably just as good without him.
Then the statistics proved him wrong her NFL Network and the logical ones looked at the stats and considered his statments lacking merit

You and JFinley

Ok, maybe not a dozen times a game. But Finley knows how to get open. I've seen J-Mike WIDE OPEN plenty of a time only to see Rodgers target someone else or inflate opposing teams' sack total by holding the ball longer than it takes Bob Dole to play a round of golf.

The drops? No big deal. Nelson drops the ball almost as much as Finley and I don't see Rodgers ignoring Nelson like the plague.

Not trying to turn this into a Favre debate, but the awesome gunslinger loved throwing the tight ends. TEs are mostly obsolete under Rodgers. J-Mike would be having a great season statistically with Favre throwing him the ball.

Trash talk with the downtrodden Bears? No big deal. Its like two boxers engaging in a good ole war of words prior to their match to hype things up.

[KYPack]

Yeah, Patler.

"Sources familiar with the Packers' thinking" could be a fortune teller in Kaukauna.

Finley is still a hog.

If he knows he's in a good coverage and he's the initial receiver, he rounds his routes. That's bc he's in a hurry to get the ball. Watch Gronk or Gonzales, they run precise routes right on the beat. The Fin has improved some of his little things. I've seen him make great blocks and chip perfectly this year. He also is a fuck-up, If his assignment is to chip and roll to the flat, he blows off the chip to get in position to be a receiver.

He's lost the great speed he had as a kid.

He's a good hand, he'll get good pay from somebody, but he'll never sniff a huge contract again.

[MadtownPacker]

Ok, maybe not a dozen times a game. But Finley knows how to get open. I've seen J-Mike WIDE OPEN plenty of a time only to see Rodgers target someone else or inflate opposing teams' sack total by holding the ball longer than it takes Bob Dole to play a round of golf.

The drops? No big deal. Nelson drops the ball almost as much as Finley and I don't see Rodgers ignoring Nelson like the plague.

Not trying to turn this into a Favre debate, but the awesome gunslinger loved throwing the tight ends. TEs are mostly obsolete under Rodgers. J-Mike would be having a great season statistically with Favre throwing him the ball.

Trash talk with the downtrodden Bears? No big deal. Its like two boxers engaging in a good ole war of words prior to their match to hype things up.

This is not true. In 2009 and 2010 before finley got hurt it seemed like the whole offense was about him. In fact I recall many complaining about Rodgers going to Finley too much in 2010. Then he got hurt and ARod starting spreading the ball around. Then the Pack won the SB. Then finley felt the need to prove himself and something got in his head and he started dropping everything. He also started played like he was worried about getting hurt again (he has been better about that as of late). So now his QB has no faith in him and he only has himself and his mouth to blame for getting phased out of the offense.

[Joemailman]

I wouldn't denigrate McGinn's sources too much. Every year he's one of the best at predicting how the 1st round of the NFL draft will go. It's not because he's smarter than everyone else. It's because he has better sources.

[Smeefers]

I've been a pretty strong supporter of Finely, but I can't imagine the packers are going to keep him. I don't give a damn about his mouth, it's the play on the field and that has been severely lacking. Eventually you can't just keep going with potential. I know we got him young, and some might try to attribute his troubles to that, but I really just don't think he's a system fit. He could do well with a QB who takes a lot of chances. I could see him doing very well with someone who would just toss the ball up to him and let him make a play. The pack's offense is all timing, a well oiled machine and that just doesn't play to Finely's strengths. He DOES have strengths though. If he goes somewhere where the offense is a little more chaotic and where he'd be a better option, I could see him coming back to form with a vengeance. With the packers though, that's just not going to happen.

[red]

If you fuck up one more thread with your trolling tactics I am going to send you packing with Finley and his bitch agent. I have a high tolerance for you because I deal with idiots on a daily basis here in Cali. But that doesn't mean everyone on this forum wants to put up with your bullshit, in fact most don't. So get your fucking head right (I bet you wont) or see it put on a spike on the PackerRats fence like all your other accounts.

Consider this your final warning little buddy.

i tried to give you positive rep for that, but it told me i had to rep a bunch of other people first

so screw you

[red]

"Sources familiar with the Packers' thinking" could be a fortune teller in Kaukauna.

i'm a "source" who is "familiar" with the "packers"

so are you, so are all of us on here

hmmmm

i could have given him this scoop about 4 months ago

[MadtownPacker]

i tried to give you positive rep for that, but it told me i had to rep a bunch of other people first

so screw you

We have a spike waiting for you too.

[George Cumby]

#1: No surprise.

#2: Finley has underperformed his contract.

#3: I don't believe the Pack are "sensitive". They believe in solidarity and taking care of shit in-house. Which dipshit and his agent are clearly incapable of doing.

#4: Good riddance.

[KYPack]

Wow.

Two Fin threads rolling at the same time.

As Mad and others are saying, JFin ain't doing what he got paid for. He's not a difference maker. Oh, he'll make a play here and there. But nobody is scheming for him anymore. They are throwing their coverages out there and covering him with a safety or an LB. A couple years ago, Tampa jacked up their T2 coverage because Fin was on the field. Nobody needs to do shit like that now.

Regular defenses cover him fine, or he'll screw himself up with drops or bad routes.

[Pugger]

Finley might not be the sharpest tool in the knife drawer but he is not the locker room cancer that TO is.

[MadtownPacker]

Finley might not be the sharpest tool in the knife drawer but he is not the locker room cancer that TO is.

Do we really know that for sure? We have seen his negative public comments on twitter (basically calling out ARod and M3). What has/does he say behind closed doors? I have to believe he is even worse.

[LegandofthePack15]

This is not true. In 2009 and 2010 before finley got hurt it seemed like the whole offense was about him. In fact I recall many complaining about Rodgers going to Finley too much in 2010. Then he got hurt and ARod starting spreading the ball around. Then the Pack won the SB. Then finley felt the need to prove himself and something got in his head and he started dropping everything. He also started played like he was worried about getting hurt again (he has been better about that as of late). So now his QB has no faith in him and he only has himself and his mouth to blame for getting phased out of the offense.

Yet today two shells/cover 2 defenses are giving the Packer offense fits. I bet throwing to J-Mike over the middle more often would make the offense a little better. J-Mike has the ability to stretch the field over the middle.