Adrain Peterson - continues to go nuts

[woodbuck27]

Woody thinks RGIII is so good that he is on his MVP list twice at #5 and #7

Thanks for pointing that out Cheesehead Craig:

My ranking today is:

1) Adrian Peterson ... Is it an award to honour the most outstanding player in the NFL? if so, this is your guy. Why AP over Aaron Rodgers? gets the edge because of what he means to the Vikings in the win column when his number is called more than 18 times a game. In those games the Vikings are 6-1.

2) Aaron Rodgers ... So very close to AP as MVP. Just imagine what he would do with healthy WR's and a better OL. He's been sacked 45 times. Check out the sack numbers for the next two MVP candidates. He leads both Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in TD's inspite of depleated receiving Corps.

3) Tom Brady ... That 'slip' to the San Fran 49ers this past Sunday night (41-34... 49ers) hurt him some.

4) Peyton Manning ... VOTERS !!! Please do not confuse comeback player consideration with Adrian Peterson and the NFL MVP.

5) Russel Wilson ... This man could be easily moved up and I did from 9th spot. You cannot keep a good small man down and this Rookie's value to the Seahawks fortunes is obvious. Wilson has been sensational. He leads the NFL in Total QBR (85.1) and ranks second to Rodgers in passer rating (106.7) over the past 10 weeks.

6) Robert Griffin III ... Kirk Cousins looked awesome whenever he's filled in but this Rookie QB is very special.

7) Matt Ryan ... His teams record is impressive and especially so at home. He's completing a career-high 42.5 percent of passes thrown more than 20 yards past the line of scrimmage. That's real good.

8) Ben Roethlisberger ... He has some work to do to get his Steelers into the playoffs. There are fewer QB's better when the going gets tough and we'll see proof of that as the Steelers push for a seed in the AFC.

9) Marshawn Lynch ... He's along with Russel Wilson, making a statement in Seattle. An outstanding rusher when his number is called. Marshawn Lynch has eight games with at least 100 yards this season and four more games with at least 85 yards. He's T-4th in rushing touchdowns with 10.

10) Calvin Johnson ... Having an outstanding season with 1667 yards receiving and a 119.1 yards per game average. A scary WR to defend against and ' what if ' Matthew Stafford was passing better ! IMO it's this reason that keeps Calvin Johnson off people's minds RE: MVP In any case I believe he will break Jerry Rice's single season total yards receiving record. Imagine .... if he was on a decent team.

[Fritz]

You can't argue with Peterson as MVP.

Problem is, the award itself is kinda stupid. Without Peterson, the Vikes go nowhere. But without Rodgers, the Pack goes nowhere. Without Manning, Denver goes nowhere. Without this player, without that player, and so on.

[woodbuck27]

You can't argue with Peterson as MVP.

Problem is, the award itself is kinda stupid. Without Peterson, the Vikes go nowhere. But without Rodgers, the Pack goes nowhere. Without Manning, Denver goes nowhere. Without this player, without that player, and so on.

When I read this long story I was convinced that of all...AP is most deserving of the MVP this season.

There are so many elements of this long story to possibly find enjoyable Fritz.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8732847/how-minnesota-adrian-peterson-became-best-running-back-football-again

GO PACK GO !

[CaliforniaCheez]

Woodbucky is as closed a mind as one can get!! Throwing out out unsupported advertizements for a low life vikling and refusing to discuss any facts or criteria.

1) First of all and MVP must be of good moral character and represent what is good about the NFL.


A) The viklng was arrested in the off season.

B) The vikling during the latest labor dispute publicly equated the NFL to slavery.

C) The same vikling has been ticketed multiple times for endangering the public by high speed driving; once on December's icy roads.


2) An MVP candidate has to be productive in yards.

A) The vikling only has 2023 total yards.

B) Drew Brees has 4335 yards passing.
Tom Brady 4276 yards.
Tony Romo 4269 yards.
Matthew Stafford 4252 yards
Matthew Ryan 4202 yards
That's more than double some vikling. Even Randall Cobb is more productive with more total yards than the vikling.

C) The vikling only has 6.3 yards per attempt. There are 30 quarterbacks in the league that have more yards per attempt.

3) An MVP candidate must be productive in points.

a) Arian Foster, James Jones, and Trent Richardson all have more touchdowns.

b) Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers have 3 times as many TD's in the passing game as the vikling running back.

c) Andy Dalton, Josh Freeman, Carson Palmer, and Ryan Fitzpatrick all have double the touchdowns in the passing game.


4) An MVP has candidate has to be able to almost singlehandedly get his team into the playoffs even if the team is not that good.

The viklings are not a playoff team.


Some of you may be stupid enough to parrot whatever the Disney corporation's sports network tells you like little Woodbucky.

Most of you being Packers fans, I would expect to know something about football and at least look at some facts and formulate some criteria so as to have something intelligent to add to the conversation.

The vikling RB is not even close to being an MVP candidate. There are many more productive and valuable players on several teams as I have shown above.

[woodbuck27]

CaliforniaCheez's comments are italicized and preceded by ***.

*** Woodbucky is as closed a mind as one can get!! Throwing out out unsupported advertizements for a low life vikling and refusing to discuss any facts or criteria.

Response : woodbuck27

I don't think so. I'll dance with you. I'd rather 'simply' make a bet with you. Take you for a few dollars.

Maybe there is some hope for you? That you'll 'open your mind' CaliforniaCheez.

All the same.... Let the debate begin:


*** 1) First of all and MVP must be of good moral character and represent what is good about the NFL.[/U]

*** A) The viklng was arrested in the off season.


woodbuck27: Where did that go ? Didn't I read that was tossed out? Didn't you read the same thing CaliforniaCheez? Sure you did. So where are you going there? Don't you live in a society that allows 'Freedom of Speech'? Don't you extend that right to every citizen?


*** B) The vikling during the latest labor dispute publicly equated the NFL to slavery.


woodbuck27: vikling? Excuse me ....but that's 'Viking' ... 'no 'L' in there.

Isn't 'the man' entitled to eliciting his opinion? If so why not? I can't wait to find out why your outraged?


*** C) The same vikling has been ticketed multiple times for endangering the public by high speed driving; once on December's icy roads.


woodbuck27: Was that since this season began? We're discussing Adrian Peterson for NFL MVP for this season, the 2012 season.

Try to FOCUS ! Thanks.


*** 2) An MVP candidate has to be productive in yards.

*** A) The vikling only has 2023 total yards.


woodbuck27: After 14 games, 1812 of those yards were rushing yards and an outrageously excellent 6.3 yards/carry.

The number two RB is Marshawn Lynch with an almost 100 yards per game average and total of 1379 yards (5.1 yards/carry). That's really good and 'only' 433 yards short of Adrian 'ALL DAY' Peterson.


*** B) Drew Brees has 4335 yards passing.
Tom Brady 4276 yards.
Tony Romo 4269 yards.
Matthew Stafford 4252 yards
Matthew Ryan 4202 yards
That's more than double some vikling. Even Randall Cobb is more productive with more total yards than the vikling.


woodbuck27: Your point of relevancy? Help me here!

Arn't Drew Brees,Tom Brady,Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan QB's?

WR Randall Cobb's total yards includes yards receiving/rushing/KO and punt returns.

The performance of Adrian Peterson is confined to his outstanding accomplisment this season 'just' rushing the ball. Try to focus on the fact that Adrian Peterson is by far and predominately a RB.


*** C) The vikling only has 6.3 yards per attempt. There are 30 quarterbacks in the league that have more yards per attempt.


woodbuck27: Again ....your point of relevancy?

A QB pass's the ball to some other eligible receiver (player) . So the resultant statistic depends on the performance of two players. Adrian Peterson is just 'one man' that runs the ball like no other man in the NFL.


*** 3) An MVP candidate must be productive in points.

*** a) Arian Foster, James Jones, and Trent Richardson all have more touchdowns.


woodbuck27:

Adrian Peterson has rushed for 11 TD's. Trent Richardson the same not more.

Arian Foster has carried the ball 36 more times than AP for .0431 TD's per carry compared to AP's .0381 TD's per carry, or a difference of 0.005 TD's carry. Not alot !

James Jones for NFL MVP!? Are you promoting that? if so I suspect that your the 'only' one.


*** b) Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers have 3 times as many TD's in the passing game as the vikling running back.


woodbuck27: ** See my already referenced statement to QB's above please.


*** c) Andy Dalton, Josh Freeman, Carson Palmer, and Ryan Fitzpatrick all have double the touchdowns in the passing game.


woodbuck27: More QB's.... Andy Dalton, Josh Freeman, Carson Palmer, and Ryan Fitzpatrick and why?

Will any one of them ever be considered for NFL MVP CalifornisCheez?



*** 4) An MVP has candidate has to be able to almost singlehandedly get his team into the playoffs even if the team is not that good.


woodbuck27: Is that ' YOUR LAW '? If so, maybe you might want to revise it?


*** The viklings are not a playoff team.


woodbuck27: See above and .... what is your point...the relevancy?


*** Some of you may be stupid enough to parrot whatever the Disney corporation's sports network tells you like little Woodbucky.

Most of you being Packers fans, I would expect to know something about football and at least look at some facts and formulate some criteria so as to have something intelligent to add to the conversation.


woodbuck27: I suggest that you keep this between 'just us'.

** I offered you a bet. Put your money where your prejudice is ! I offered you a $ 1000.00 $ bet. How can we make this formal?


*** The vikling RB is not even close to being an MVP candidate.


woodbuck27: SEE **


*** There are many more productive and valuable players on several teams as I have shown above.


woodbuck27: If you really believe that!? Then take me on in that bet..... or think about opening your mind

[woodbuck27]

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9cc2?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=minnesota-vikings

(Leslie) Frazier: ‘No doubt’ AP is MVP

Posted by NBCSports.com ... December 20, 2012, 7:11 PM EST

Video:

Vikings head coach Leslie Frazier joins PFT to discuss the historic season RB Adrian Peterson is in the midst of, if he’s seen improvements from QB Christian Ponder, and to what extent he would go to in order to ensure AP breaks the single-season rushing record.

[woodbuck27]

Hey CaliforniaCheez:

Who's the 2012 NFL Season MVP?

[woodbuck27]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130202/rg3-arians-kuechly-claim-yearly-awards/

(Adrian) Peterson wins MVP, Offensive Player of Year awards


Peterson returned better than ever from the left knee surgery, rushing for 2,097 yards, 9 short of breaking Dickerson's record. He also sparked the Vikings' turnaround from 3-13 to 10-6 and a wild-card playoff berth.

He received 30½ votes to 19½ for Manning.

"I played my heart out, every opportunity I had," Peterson said. "The result of that is not what I wanted, which is being in the Super Bowl game. But I have a couple of good pieces of hardware to bring back and (put) in my statue area. So it feels good." ..."