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  • #16
    Yes, I agree.

    And it's not that I wouldn't like for our players to be playmakers, it's just that they don't HAVE to be to have the defense be successful. Just look at last year. It says it all. While we still had some crappy players, the defense was still pretty respectable.

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    • #17
      I dont' want respectable. I want dominating at times at least.

      We need turnovers. Collins needs INT's and forced fumbles. Just not messing up isn't enough in year two. I want to see a few plays where he is the difference. Hawk already has been a time or two. Collins needs to step up. I think Manuel/Collins Chemistry is going to be pretty important in that area.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #18
        Actually, I believe our system now is closer to Tampa and Chicago cover 2 than it is to Donatell or Shurmur's under 4-3.

        LBs in both base and nickel have primary coverage responsibility on the TE through the deep middle (remember Hawk's coverage, man to man, on the TE when he broke up a seam route near the end zone?)

        And the talk in camp 2 weeks ago was the preponderance of man coverage responsibilites for the LBs on TEs and RBs.

        In that article, it was specifically mentioned that Hodge was more familiar with man technique than Hawk. Hawk has the speed to excel at this, but much of it is new.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          God, I hope you are all right. My wife called me from a business trip in Milwauke and told me she bought me "Hawk" jersey.
          My house is in Georgia but Wisconsin is my home.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Hawk has clearly outplayed Hodge in the two preseason games--after Hodge had a better scrimmage. Hawk is a better all-around LB, and he's starting to play like a top pick. I have no worries about Hawk.
            Ditto.

            HAWK and HODGE will both start for us this season at some point with good fortune.

            We are fortunate - with regards to these fine young Linebackers, on OUR side for a long time. HOPE

            Nice job GM Ted Thompson. Great choices.

            GO PACKERS ! HAWK - BARNETT - HODGE at Linebacker. . .

            OUR Successful Future !!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by AtlPackFan
              God, I hope you are all right. My wife called me from a business trip in Milwauke and told me she bought me "Hawk" jersey.
              Put "the Loving" on her. Nice wife.

              HAWK !!
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pbmax
                Actually, I believe our system now is closer to Tampa and Chicago cover 2 than it is to Donatell or Shurmur's under 4-3.

                LBs in both base and nickel have primary coverage responsibility on the TE through the deep middle (remember Hawk's coverage, man to man, on the TE when he broke up a seam route near the end zone?)

                And the talk in camp 2 weeks ago was the preponderance of man coverage responsibilites for the LBs on TEs and RBs.

                In that article, it was specifically mentioned that Hodge was more familiar with man technique than Hawk. Hawk has the speed to excel at this, but much of it is new.
                I think the whole damn league has moved to this defense or something very similiar.

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                • #23
                  hawk has been right by the ball on almost every play he's in the game for. he knows what he's doing, and how to get there.

                  he missed most of the ota's so when camp started he was just learning everything

                  he showed in this last game that he's going to be damn good, i have no doubt about it.

                  this guys sources are probably 1 guy that went to 1 practicea couple of weeks ago, and watched hawk for a total of 5 minutes. just remember that. all these national experts might watch 1 practice and they think they have everything figured out from those 2 hours

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                  • #24
                    He has made great strides so far and looks to be a good lb.
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                    • #25
                      Re: ProFootballWeekly - Hawk Comments

                      Originally posted by retailguy
                      From the "Whispers" section:

                      Sources in Green Bay are stunned that fifth overall pick A.J. Hawk hasn’t been more of a steady presence this summer. In fact, there are some who believe third-round pick Abdul Hodge might be a better starter at this time than the ultratalented Hawk.


                      Wow, I hadn't heard any of this. Since I'm out of state, I haven't been able to watch live, although I did get in in GBR's feed (thanks!), but haven't been paying much attention to Hawk. Is this true? Is this hype? Has he looked "that bad?"

                      Something tells me their source is Chris Havel.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        Re: ProFootballWeekly - Hawk Comments

                        Originally posted by Joemailman

                        Something tells me their source is Chris Havel.

                        Does he have a written deal in place to write Hodge's book?

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                        • #27
                          He will get better with age, like wine almost.?.

                          But he won't be sweet, he will be one bitter ass motherfucker!
                          HOPEFULLY!
                          Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. -Morticia Addams

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Partial
                            Remember though, last year there was talk of the linebacking position being pretty difficult to master in the scheme. It's definitely the hardest of the positions. I, too, am feeling optimistic. (is that correct grammar anyone?)
                            Yes, it's fine, Partial.

                            Hell, that you know when to put two 'o's after the 't' in itself puts you ahead of 75% of internet contributors.

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                            • #29
                              i swear people want the guy to fail...he looked good against atl.

                              he is going to be more than just fine.

                              Taylor kinda sucks tho...I'd rather get Hodge in there and let him and Hawk go to it.

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