Studs and Duds - Week 16 GB vs Tenn

[George Cumby]

Also Legand, radio said Shields got caught looking into the backfield on that completion. From my Official Packer Commentator Translation Almanac, that means, unless Shields was in single coverage wide with inside technique, he was playing zone.

From my Un-Official Packerats Translation Almanac: You are an ignoramus.

[Tony Oday]

Duds: Crosby. He is terrible. He should not only be released ASAP he should be banned from the NFL for life.

[RashanGary]

When it comes to the Packers, there's nothing I dislike more than fans who boo the home team. If you don't like Crosby, fine, but the guy is giving everything he has out there. If he's not doing well, I understand wanting to see a new kicker, but booing him or MM (whoever it is you are pissed at) is classless at best, and cruel at worst. That goes for Finely too. Boo the hell out of the away team. Away teams get that. It's part of the fight. When it comes to booing your own guys, if you don't like them, don't go. A part of being a fan is being supportive. It lifts the team. Support helps people do more than they could do alone. It gives motivation, as a team, as a group united.

The duds to me are anyone who was booing Crosby. And that goes for Finley too a few weeks back. You might as well be throwing coke bottles. It's just as disrespectful and those guys don't deserve it. Oh, and chances are you don't know a fucking thing about working out of a kicking slump, or what a WR/TE goes through on a down slump. On top of being jerks, you're probably ignorant too for thinking you know enough to take it that far.

Oh, that said, it's not that big of a deal. It just pisses me off and I went on a tear about it. So FU guys

P.S. Finley pisses me off beyond belief.

[Tony Oday]

Crosby blows and part of the gig for a professional athlete is if they are not good they get booed.

[KYPack]

Just finished watching EVERY PLAY on Shortcuts. Some notes:

Rodgers - mini-mice for overthrowing an open Greg Jennings on a bomb-6 for the 3rd straight week. The two need to get N'Sync before the playoffs. Rodgers also overthrew James Jones.

On the Titans' first series, Matthews was lucky he wasn't called for unnecessary roughness for hitting Locker a day late on a HB draw.

Looked like Shields was to blame for the Titans' long bomb on their only scoring drive with under 2 minutes left to play; but if the Packers were actually playing zone, than Hayward would be at fault for chasing the post guy that was covered by a lb instead of the streaking guy Samwise let run past him. On the Titans' TD play, the defense wasn't set prior to the snap and then every Packer defender probably read qb sneak after the snap as the Titan's center was a million miles down the field. No call but who cares at that point of the game? Still, a shut out would've looked good on paper.

DuJuan Harris continues to impress. He's making the most out of his limited opportunities. McCarthy, feed this guy the rock more!!!

Barclay, McGinn probably will have nice things to say about this guy when his post-game review comes out. Ditto, the dude Ndamuthug Suh kicked in the nuts.

Overall, the Packers tyrannized the Titans. But stay humble, Pack fans! This was a mere victory over a hapless, tasteless team.

Firstly, Merry Christmas to PB and all my Rat pals.

Secondly, Tanky, you've been watching football for a long time, when you gonna begin to understand it?

On the "long bomb" given up to the Titans, the Pack were in a zone. As in zone blitz. They sent Walden, Jones and Tramon Williams on a dog. On the right side we were in zone. Zombo took the slot receiver in matchup coverage. IOW, he's got to cover him all over the field. Shields had the wide guy with Hayward deep giving help to either man, depending on the need and direction of the pass. The Titans picked up all the blitzers and Locker took the wide guy on a 9, down the sideline. Hayward came over to give help on the deep route, too late to do anything but make the tackle. That's blitz cover, if nobody gets home, you may get burned and we did.

[Patler]

I have a feeling we're going to see more and more of Ryan Grant. His legs are really fresh. For a guy his age, he hasn't seen a lot of wear and tear. I think he fits really well with our group too. He goes forward and doesn't make the OL block for a long time. He knows football, knows pass protection. . . .

I've always liked Grant, so maybe I'm biased, but I think he's going to be our guy here.

he just gets it, like benson did

hit the hole at full speed, or the line at full speed. if the line is there, your momentum might get you a few yards. if the hole is where its suppose to be, you're gonna get a big gain

i think other guys are just waiting too long for something to develop, and when the hole is there, they don't have the speed built up to hit it hard

grant could be our ace in the hole

I have always liked Grant as well. Not a great back, but somehow the more he plays the better the running game is.

One of the O-linemen (I think Sitton) said after the game that Grant is easy to block for because he sets up the defenders so well.

[Brandon494]

HA Grant has a nice game and everyone jumps back on the bandwagon, too bad we don't play the Titans every week.

[LegandofthePack15]

Secondly, Tanky, you've been watching football for a long time, when you gonna begin to understand it?

On the "long bomb" given up to the Titans, the Pack were in a zone. As in zone blitz. They sent Walden, Jones and Tramon Williams on a dog. On the right side we were in zone. Zombo took the slot receiver in matchup coverage. IOW, he's got to cover him all over the field. Shields had the wide guy with Hayward deep giving help to either man, depending on the need and direction of the pass. The Titans picked up all the blitzers and Locker took the wide guy on a 9, down the sideline. Hayward came over to give help on the deep route, too late to do anything but make the tackle. That's blitz cover, if nobody gets home, you may get burned and we did.

Kentucky, if you read my post again, you'll see that I appear to be saying, "At first glance it looked like Shields was at fault for the bomb, but upon further review, it was Hayward fault instead."

Note: earlier this season, Shields was guilty of peaking too soon like he did on the aforementioned play and he allowed a bomb-6. I think it was against the Saints. I think the Packers were playing man on that play.

[woodbuck27]

Firstly, Merry Christmas to PB and all my Rat pals.

Secondly, Tanky, you've been watching football for a long time, when you gonna begin to understand it?

On the "long bomb" given up to the Titans, the Pack were in a zone. As in zone blitz. They sent Walden, Jones and Tramon Williams on a dog. On the right side we were in zone. Zombo took the slot receiver in matchup coverage. IOW, he's got to cover him all over the field. Shields had the wide guy with Hayward deep giving help to either man, depending on the need and direction of the pass. The Titans picked up all the blitzers and Locker took the wide guy on a 9, down the sideline. Hayward came over to give help on the deep route, too late to do anything but make the tackle. That's blitz cover, if nobody gets home, you may get burned and we did.

" On the "long bomb" given up to the Titans, the Pack were in a zone. As in zone blitz. They sent Walden, Jones and Tramon Williams on a dog. On the right side we were in zone. Zombo took the slot receiver in matchup coverage. IOW, he's got to cover him all over the field. Shields had the wide guy with Hayward deep giving help to either man, depending on the need and direction of the pass. The Titans picked up all the blitzers and Locker took the wide guy on a 9, down the sideline. Hayward came over to give help on the deep route, too late to do anything but make the tackle. That's blitz cover, if nobody gets home, you may get burned and we did. " KYPack

And that........ Ladies and Gentleman is 'Footballeze'.

[Packers4Glory]

Duds: MM

failing to pull Cobb when the game is out of reach. I hated when Williams was back there and I'm not a huge fan of seeing Cobb back there now, and esp not when a game is over. We've had enough injuries without creating a senseless one by keeping one of your best offensive weapons on returns come hell or high water.

[KYPack]

Kentucky, if you read my post again, you'll see that I appear to be saying, "At first glance it looked like Shields was at fault for the bomb, but upon further review, it was Hayward fault instead."

Note: earlier this season, Shields was guilty of peaking too soon like he did on the aforementioned play and he allowed a bomb-6. I think it was against the Saints. I think the Packers were playing man on that play.

You appeared to say something? Well Tanky, it didn’t appear that you knew what you were talking about, so I didn’t know what you were mumbling about in that post. The Packers (Dom Capers) ran a fire zone on the pass you were talking about. You want to blame Hayward instead of Shields for the long play? Actually, it was a third DB that was to blame for the long gain. It was
Tramon Williams. He was the blitzer on the blitz side of the play. Capers set him up for success, but Titan reserve RB Jamie Harper made a perfect blitz pick-up and nobody from the 3 blitzing Packers got to Locker.

In a fire zone coverage, both man to man AND zone technique are employed. It’s zone on top, man underneath. The zone on top was thirds. Each deep Packer db has a third of the field to cover. Locker could’ve taken the slot receiver on the skinny post or Britt on the fly. He passed to Britt and Hayward made a pretty good play just to make the tackle. If Hayward would have committed sooner to the sideline route, Locker would have had an easy score with the post wr. Capers ran fire zone blitzes every pass play but the last one in the Titan’s last possession. With Wood out, he’s trying to see who can be his blitz corner. So far, we ain’t got one.
I notice you keep spamming for that Harris to be our RB. That play you reference is a big reason why he can’t be anything more than a spot or change of pace guy. The Titan’s Harper is 5’11” 230. Any NFL RB must be able to execute his pass pro responsibility. Harris is just too small to be effective blitz pick-up man. He’s like Sproles, an effective weapon, but only used in spots.

[Fritz]

You appeared to say something? Well Tanky, it didn’t appear that you knew what you were talking about, so I didn’t know what you were mumbling about in that post. The Packers (Dom Capers) ran a fire zone on the pass you were talking about. You want to blame Hayward instead of Shields for the long play? Actually, it was a third DB that was to blame for the long gain. It was
Tramon Williams. He was the blitzer on the blitz side of the play. Capers set him up for success, but Titan reserve RB Jamie Harper made a perfect blitz pick-up and nobody from the 3 blitzing Packers got to Locker.

In a fire zone coverage, both man to man AND zone technique are employed. It’s zone on top, man underneath. The zone on top was thirds. Each deep Packer db has a third of the field to cover. Locker could’ve taken the slot receiver on the skinny post or Britt on the fly. He passed to Britt and Hayward made a pretty good play just to make the tackle. If Hayward would have committed sooner to the sideline route, Locker would have had an easy score with the post wr. Capers ran fire zone blitzes every pass play but the last one in the Titan’s last possession. With Wood out, he’s trying to see who can be his blitz corner. So far, we ain’t got one.
I notice you keep spamming for that Harris to be our RB. That play you reference is a big reason why he can’t be anything more than a spot or change of pace guy. The Titan’s Harper is 5’11” 230. Any NFL RB must be able to execute his pass pro responsibility. Harris is just too small to be effective blitz pick-up man. He’s like Sproles, an effective weapon, but only used in spots.

I find posts like yours to be very educational, so thanks, KY.

As for Harris, who's the odd man out when Starks is ready by the post season?

[woodbuck27]

I find posts like yours to be very educational, so thanks, KY.

As for Harris, who's the odd man out when Starks is ready by the post season?

" I find posts like yours to be very educational, so thanks, KY. " Fritz

Really ! We are lucky to have posters like 'KY and' when he steps in for a visit 'Deputy Nutz' to enlighten most other members of Packerrats with their vast football knowledge.

Packerrats ! The BEST !!

[RashanGary]

Yup. . . KY, Dnutz, ND. . . . There are some football guys here. Cool thing is, we all learn from guys like that. Over time, I see a lot of people becoming more knowledgable about everything - football.

[woodbuck27]

Yup. . . KY, Dnutz, ND. . . . There are some football guys here. Cool thing is, we all learn from guys like that. Over time, I see a lot of people becoming more knowledgable about everything - football.

JH.... Your certainly a poster here that has demonstrated tremendous growth and insight. I value your input.