Brett Favre's current standing in the record books.

[]{ilr]3]

LOL, good one Cali-Cheez

Here is anouther:

Pay your Respects!

[Scott Campbell]

Oh but you can, just gather a group of Nutz's family and friends and confront him about his addiction to porongraphy and cheetos, wait a minute ......... I'm sorry I thought you said intervention leader.

ROFL

[AtlPackFan]

Terry Bradshaw = 5.38 interception rate (interceptions/100 pass attempts)
210 interceptions in 3901 pass attempts (212 TDs)

Johnny Unitas = 4.88 interception rate
253 interceptions in 5186 pass attempts (290 TDs)

Fran Tarkenton = 4.11 interception rate
266 interceptions in 6467 pass attempts (342 TDs)

Brett Favre = 3.35 interception rate
255 interceptions in 7610 pass attempts (396 TDs)

John Elway = 3.11 interception rate
226 interceptions in 7250 pass attempts (300 TDs)

Dan Marino = 3.02 interception rate
252 interceptions in 8358 pass attempts (420 TDs)

Excellent stats Harv. You know the national media will never go to that depth. When Farve retires they will simply say "look, he's #? in interceptions!". Hell, his interception ratio is better than Unitas who many call the greatest quarterback of all time.

[Homer Jay]

Terry Bradshaw = 5.38 interception rate (interceptions/100 pass attempts)
210 interceptions in 3901 pass attempts (212 TDs)

Johnny Unitas = 4.88 interception rate
253 interceptions in 5186 pass attempts (290 TDs)

Fran Tarkenton = 4.11 interception rate
266 interceptions in 6467 pass attempts (342 TDs)

Brett Favre = 3.35 interception rate
255 interceptions in 7610 pass attempts (396 TDs)

John Elway = 3.11 interception rate
226 interceptions in 7250 pass attempts (300 TDs)

Dan Marino = 3.02 interception rate
252 interceptions in 8358 pass attempts (420 TDs)

His interception rate isn't historically high--despite what bulldog and the Favre haters claim. Throwing 16-17 int/year may sound like a lot, but it really isn't when you throw 580-600 times/year. He's probably around average when compared to other great QBs. His TD rate is the second highest ever though, and his completion percentage is historical high. The fact he ranks third in wins (despite playing in the free agency area), and his team has more wins than any other team during his playing days should tell you all you need to know about Favre (besides the numbers and the streak).

Just to add to the stats:

Bradshaw threw a touchdown every 18.4 attempts. He threw a INT every 18.5 attempt. His TD-INT ratio was 1.01/1.00.

Unitas threw a TD every 17.8 attempts and an INT every 20.5 attempts.His TD-INT ratio was 1.14/1.

Tarkenton 1 TD for 18.9 attempt. 1 INT for every 24.3 attempts.
TD-INT ratio 1.28/1.

Elway 1 TD per 24.1 attempt. 1 INT per 32.8 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.33/1.

Marino 1 TD per 19.9 attempt. 1 INT per 33 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.67/1.

Favre. 1 TD per 19.2 attempts. 1 INT per 29.8 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.55-1.

You can debate forever who the "greatest" ever is, but, to say that Brett Favre doesn't belong near the top of the list defies all logic to me.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Statistically, Marino is the only one that compares to Favre. There are several that belong in the talk of best ever based on team success (Starr, Bradshaw, Aikman, Graham, now Brady, etc.). There are only a handful that have both the stats and a championship. In my mind, those are the ones at the top. Those are Montana, Elway, Unitas, Favre.

Manning is like Marino (great passers; no title)
Favre is like Elway (great arms; good mobility; tough; leaders)
Brady is like Aikman (winners; accurate; clutch; more QB friendly dink and dunk offenses)

With another title, Brady can move into that Starr, Bradshaw, maybe even Montana class. With one title, Manning can move from Marino to the Elway/Favre class.

[b bulldog]

Manning will OWN ALL RECORDS when he is done and if he wins a championship, he will be in the top 10 at least. He has a shot a Brett's continuous games started streak although he has quite a ways to go to catch him. Elway did much more with much less and I'm a fan who can't stand Elway. Look at how many Super Bowls he made it to with a bunch of junk.

[Homer Jay]

Maybe I missed it bulldog. If so, I apologize, but could you please list your top5 all time QBs?

[Zool]

Manning will OWN ALL RECORDS when he is done and if he wins a championship, he will be in the top 10 at least. He has a shot a Brett's continuous games started streak although he has quite a ways to go to catch him. Elway did much more with much less and I'm a fan who can't stand Elway. Look at how many Super Bowls he made it to with a bunch of junk.

You sure do change your tune when confronted with facts.

Anyways, Elway had the 3 amigo's playing in the 3 SB's with him. How in the world is that "much less" than what Brett has played with for the last 7-8 years?

[Packnut]

Favre

Manning will OWN ALL RECORDS when he is done and if he wins a championship, he will be in the top 10 at least. He has a shot a Brett's continuous games started streak although he has quite a ways to go to catch him. Elway did much more with much less and I'm a fan who can't stand Elway. Look at how many Super Bowls he made it to with a bunch of junk.

You sure do change your tune when confronted with facts.

Anyways, Elway had the 3 amigo's playing in the 3 SB's with him. How in the world is that "much less" than what Brett has played with for the last 7-8 years?

I guess according to him, that pro bowl RB was junk. It just speaks volume on his ignorance.

[red]

Terry Bradshaw = 5.38 interception rate (interceptions/100 pass attempts)
210 interceptions in 3901 pass attempts (212 TDs)

Johnny Unitas = 4.88 interception rate
253 interceptions in 5186 pass attempts (290 TDs)

Fran Tarkenton = 4.11 interception rate
266 interceptions in 6467 pass attempts (342 TDs)

Brett Favre = 3.35 interception rate
255 interceptions in 7610 pass attempts (396 TDs)

John Elway = 3.11 interception rate
226 interceptions in 7250 pass attempts (300 TDs)

Dan Marino = 3.02 interception rate
252 interceptions in 8358 pass attempts (420 TDs)

His interception rate isn't historically high--despite what bulldog and the Favre haters claim. Throwing 16-17 int/year may sound like a lot, but it really isn't when you throw 580-600 times/year. He's probably around average when compared to other great QBs. His TD rate is the second highest ever though, and his completion percentage is historical high. The fact he ranks third in wins (despite playing in the free agency area), and his team has more wins than any other team during his playing days should tell you all you need to know about Favre (besides the numbers and the streak).

Just to add to the stats:

Bradshaw threw a touchdown every 18.4 attempts. He threw a INT every 18.5 attempt. His TD-INT ratio was 1.01/1.00.

Unitas threw a TD every 17.8 attempts and an INT every 20.5 attempts.His TD-INT ratio was 1.14/1.

Tarkenton 1 TD for 18.9 attempt. 1 INT for every 24.3 attempts.
TD-INT ratio 1.28/1.

Elway 1 TD per 24.1 attempt. 1 INT per 32.8 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.33/1.

Marino 1 TD per 19.9 attempt. 1 INT per 33 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.67/1.

Favre. 1 TD per 19.2 attempts. 1 INT per 29.8 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.55-1.

You can debate forever who the "greatest" ever is, but, to say that Brett Favre doesn't belong near the top of the list defies all logic to me.

i could have saved you guys some time

this was my first thread on this site

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=1439&highlight=

all super bowl winning qb's

name td/ints tds per int

Bart Starr 152/138 1.10
Joe Namath 173/220 .79
Len Dawson 239/183 1.31
Johnny Unitas 290/253 1.15
Roger Staubach 153/109 1.4
Bob Griese 192/172 1.12
Terry Bradshaw 212/210 1.01
Ken Stabler 194/222 .87
Jim Plunkett 164/198 .83
Joe Montana 273/139 1.96
Joe Theismann 160/138 1.16
Jim McMahon 100/90 1.11
Phil Simms 199/157 1.27
Doug Williams 100/93 1.08
Mark Rypien 115/88 1.31
Troy Aikman 165/141 1.09
Steve Young 232/107 2.17
Brett Favre 396/255 1.55
John Elway 300/226 1.33
Kurt Warner 119 /78 1.53
Trent Dilfer 106/117 .91
Tom Brady 123 /66 1.86
Brad Johnson 155/102 1.52
Ben Roethlisberger 34/20 1.70

so by my math favre has thrown 1.55 td's for every int for his career. thats 5th best if you look at all the super bowl winning qb's. only behind some guys named montana, young, brady, and roethlisberger. and with time, and without top notch teams, brady and big bens ratio could drop

then i looked at the top 20 qb's of all time based on attempts

D Marino..........8358.....420/252.....1.66
B Favre............7612.....396/255.....1.55
J Elway.............7250.....300/226.....1.33
W Moon ...........6823.....291/233.....1.25
D Bledsoe ........6548.....244/198.....1.23
V Testaverde.....6526.....269/261.....1.03
F Tarkenton.......6467.....342/266.....1.29
D Fouts ............5604.....254/242.....1.05
J Montana .........5391.....273/139.....1.96
D Krieg ............5311.....261/199.....1.31
B Esiason ..........5205.....247/184.....1.34
J Unitas..............5186.....290/253.....1.15
K Collins ............5082.....173/166.....1.04
J Hart ................5076.....209/247.....0.85
S Deberg ............5024......196/204.....0.96
J Everett .............4923.....203/175.....1.16
J Kelly ................4779.....237/175.....1.35
T Aikman ..........4715.....165/141.....1.17
J Hadl ..............4687.....244/268.....0.91
P Simms ............4647.....199/157.....1.27

[woodbuck27]

iNTERCEPTIONS PLEASE!

waaaauuunnnnkkk !!

FAVRE !!!

[woodbuck27]

b bulldog ??? Favre and ALL his picks ???

From a list of QB's supplied by Forum Members:

BEST: Dan Marino 1 TD per 19.9 attempt. 1 INT per 33 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.67/1.

Next BEST BrettFavre. 1 TD per 19.2 attempts. 1 INT per 29.8 attempt. TD-INT ratio 1.55-1.

Now where will Favre be soon and where does he stand now, compared to Dan Marino - who played his entire career on a very decent Team in very nice weather conditions - compared to the soon to be.....

Frozen Tundraaaa of Lambeauuuu ?

FAVRE ! and the GREEN BAY PACKERS !!!

[red]

that last bit is a very good point woody, and something that is usually greatly overlooked.

brett played a lot of games in horrible conditions for throwing the ball and still put up very good numbers

[pbmax]

Terry Bradshaw = 5.38 interception rate (interceptions/100 pass attempts)
210 interceptions in 3901 pass attempts (212 TDs)

Johnny Unitas = 4.88 interception rate
253 interceptions in 5186 pass attempts (290 TDs)

Fran Tarkenton = 4.11 interception rate
266 interceptions in 6467 pass attempts (342 TDs)

Brett Favre = 3.35 interception rate
255 interceptions in 7610 pass attempts (396 TDs)

John Elway = 3.11 interception rate
226 interceptions in 7250 pass attempts (300 TDs)

Dan Marino = 3.02 interception rate
252 interceptions in 8358 pass attempts (420 TDs)

Excellent stats Harv. You know the national media will never go to that depth. When favre retires they will simply say "look, he's #? in interceptions!". Hell, his interception ratio is better than Unitas who many call the greatest quarterback of all time.

C'mon! Favre has gotten glorious attention from the national media for most of his career. Where do you think the conventional wisdom that he's "just haveing fun out there", "plays like a gunslinger" and "throws into windows other QBs wouldn't" come from.

This is THE ESSENCE of conventional wisdom. When things are going well, they are ebullient. And when a nasty bit of contrary information presents itself, its dismissed.

After the 4 and 12 season, both the conventional wisdom and those jealous of the fawning coverage jump to the negative view. The other view is harder to square with recent results, which is all radio talk show hosts (or Rumormill authors) can remember.

People who jump between the two should be eviscerated (yes I am thinking of you Sean Salisbury and you Mike Greenberg, off the top of my head).

People who have been relatively consistent (say Paul Zimmerman of SI, who has been complaining for years) might have something useful to contribute. Although even Z has taken to mostly complaining about media coverage.

Everyone here needs to grow thicker skin.

It reminds me of several Viking fans I know (not Rastak) who believe that the Vikings have never lost a game except due to bad officiating and that the league's officials clearly have it in for them.

[pbmax]

Brady is like Aikman (winners; accurate; clutch; more QB friendly dink and dunk offenses)

I don't think you can classify the Sid Gilliam/Don Coryell/Joe Gibbs/Norv Turner/Ernie Zampese offense as dink and dunk.

It was a timing based offense and contained ALOT of deep routes. Buckley and Evans weren't being burned by 5 yard comebacks.

This comparison is ludicrous.