BRADY HATERS

[b bulldog]

Why do you say that Brady's championships and Super Bowl MVP's are his only because of the strong Pats D?

[MadtownPacker]

Re: BRADY HATERS

Maybe because they have only happened when he had that great D you mentioned? Lets see how he performs when he has to put the game on his shoulders, like say, last year in Denver?????

[jack's smirking revenge]

I didn't say that. Don't point your finger at me. Wanna take this outside?

tyler

[Partial]

He had a great D, but the man is ridiculous in his own right. He is every bit as good as an elway or a favre in their primes in my opinion. He may not have the cannon, but he's got the confidence in his arm to make all the throws

[b bulldog]

More posts needed please!

[MadtownPacker]

Why dont you respond to my reply? Not much to say about that game huh? Sure is easy for you to bring up Favre's playoff failures.

Lame.

[MadtownPacker]

November 19th, 2006 - You will have your chance to run your Brady-groupie mouth if YOUR man gets the V over OURS.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Honestly, much like the '96 Packers, they go hand-in-hand. Favre was amazing, but he was also amazing because he had a great defense on the other side of the ball, shutting down opponents and getting turnovers. Brady's accomplishments should not be minimized based on another team strength. Put someone else in his place--say, Bledsoe--and the Pats could've easily been perrenial Super Bowl losers like the Bills were in the 90s. Brady is a talented QB and should be recognized as such.

You do have a valid point though Mad. Let's how he responds to the adversity around him this year, with all of the changes swirling around the Pats franchise. Every good thing comes to an end eventually.

tyler

[jack's smirking revenge]

So, have we walked into an inside argument between Madtown and Bulldog? Scrapfest over who is better--Favre or Brady?

tyler

[MadtownPacker]

I admit, he is a good QB, but one of the all-time greats? Lets wait and see.

Besides, the dude is from SF!! Cmon!!!

[jack's smirking revenge]

I don't think any player should be annointed as "ONE OF THE GREATS" until he's filed his retirement papers. Yes, Favre is on that path, but it is also VERY possible--though not plausible--that he could reach the INT record and NOT get the TD record. Would he be remembered as one of the greats then? Is Blanda remembered as "one of the greatest QBs of all time"? Open-ended question meant for discussion...

tyler

[b bulldog]

he definitely is one of the great whether he breaks both records or just one of them. He isn't a top 5 though because of his decision making and you just can't ignore that.

[b bulldog]

Jack, he does have adversity this season as last season but when he had the chance to be more than a one time wonder(Ron Wolf), he got the job done period.

[BananaMan]

Yeah, Brady's decision making last year @ Denver was great. That pass to Bailey was put right on the mark.

[b bulldog]

At least he didn't do it 6 times, hahaha