Pats D rankings in 01(24),03(7),04(10)

[b bulldog]

the last throw when the chips were on the table to Chewey wasw a terrible throw and even Max and Jim were wondering aloud, "who was he throwing to" Find the broadcast of the game and you'll find it.

[Bretsky]

Brady goes 16 for 27 for 145 yards and 1 TD and 0 interceptions and wins the Super Bowl MVP in 2002.

Meanwhile, Favre goes 14 for 27 for 246 yards and 3 TDs (2 passing, 1 rushing) and 0 interceptions in 1997.

Yet bulldog looks to demean Favre's impact on the game. Who is the hater/apologist?

I've always thought Favre should have been the MVP of that game. But who cares; he played a great clutch game in the Super Bowl. The fact that he was not named MVP means ZERO. Green Bay wins that Super Bowl with Antonio Chatman returning punts.

[b bulldog]

Sorry B but as the guys who were at the 92 Packer HOF said, they don't'win that game without Reggie and Desmand. Sean Jones was the one who said it.

[Bretsky]

the last throw when the chips were on the table to Chewey wasw a terrible throw and even Max and Jim were wondering aloud, "who was he throwing to" Find the broadcast of the game and you'll find it.

That was a bad throw and a bad decision.

Two throws before that Freeman dropped a pass that would have given GB a First Down and probably a TD with the defender falling.

Do you remember that and give Favre credit for a great clutch pass on that one or is your memory selective ?

[HarveyWallbangers]

the last throw when the chips were on the table to Chewey wasw a terrible throw and even Max and Jim were wondering aloud, "who was he throwing to" Find the broadcast of the game and you'll find it.

It happens. If the refs hadn't screwed the call against the Raiders, people would be wondering why the hell Brady didn't hang onto the ball in a big moment like that. Even Joe Montana had bad playoff games. Hell, Marino had a bunch of them at the end of his career.

[Bretsky]

Sorry B but as the guys who were at the 92 Packer HOF said, they don't'win that game without Reggie and Desmand. Sean Jones was the one who said it.

I won't argue #92. I think we win without the special teams return. Evidence of NE's ability, or lack of it, to shut down GB would support me.

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[b bulldog]

I agree but the problem with Brett is that his bad games outway his few good playoff games since the 97 game. Facts are facts here.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Do you remember that and give Favre credit for a great clutch pass on that one or is your memory selective ?

Good point. A laser right into the hands of Freeman. I should know. I just watched it--as Bretsky sent me the tape a week or two ago.

[GBRulz]

Do you remember that and give Favre credit for a great clutch pass on that one or is your memory selective ?

Good point. A laser right into the hands of Freeman. I should know. I just watched it--as Bretsky sent me the tape a week or two ago.

BAD MEMORIES

[b bulldog]

tHE SECOND HALF THEY CLEARLY HAD MOMENTUM AND Bellichek at halftime made adjustments and clamped down on the O. I think the return and the three sacks were what won the game.

[b bulldog]

The 97 game which I meant was the 98 Super Bowl which is linked to the 97 season. The game they lost.

[Bretsky]

Do you remember that and give Favre credit for a great clutch pass on that one or is your memory selective ?

Good point. A laser right into the hands of Freeman. I should know. I just watched it--as Bretsky sent me the tape a week or two ago.

BAD MEMORIES

Yes, talk about friends wanting to see you happy; my former roommate from NY sent me that tape documenting the Bronco Super Bowl loss followed by the Niners game where Jerry Rice fumbles and TO makes the great play



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[RashanGary]

I've wathed Brady. I've watched Favre. Based on my eyes, and the surrounding treams, I believe Favre was the better QB. Favre has more all time wins, more TD's, more yards than all QB's but one. Brady played on a good team and was a good QB.

Taht is my view. Brady is damn good, but not on Favre's level IMHO.

[b bulldog]

Wow, thats a revelation. A Packer fan thinking Brett is the best! Sorry to daog you Nick but that is what is always said on here. Brett's one win came with a much better D than Brady ever had but yet Bready still needs a D to win. Did I mention Haward and the fact that BRETT WASN'T EVEN NAMED mvp. By the way, Mario looked real good against the Rams the other night. I saw the first quarter and a half and he drew two false starts,had a batted pass, a tfl and three hurries. He is going to be awesome in the near future.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've wathed Brady. I've watched Favre. Based on my eyes, and the surrounding treams, I believe Favre was the better QB. Favre has more all time wins, more TD's, more yards than all QB's but one. Brady played on a good team and was a good QB.

Taht is my view. Brady is damn good, but not on Favre's level IMHO.

Favre apologist.