Studs and Duds - Playoff Edition - GB vs Minn

[mmmdk]

Can't take this thread seriuosly without ANY mention of Kuhn; he owns you all man . Shame on you!

TO KUHN

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'll actually give a Stud to the officials. Other than the blown TD call on the field, which was tough to see and they got it right on review, they were pretty invisible and just let the teams play. Given the flag fests we've seen before, it was a great job by this crew.

[pbmax]

I'll actually give a Stud to the officials. Other than the blown TD call on the field, which was tough to see and they got it right on review, they were pretty invisible and just let the teams play. Given the flag fests we've seen before, it was a great job by this crew.

Good point.

Also kudos to Kuhn's 2 TDs but far too many short yardage plays getting stuffed. Part him but also part O line.

[King Friday]

I'll actually give a Stud to the officials. Other than the blown TD call on the field, which was tough to see and they got it right on review, they were pretty invisible and just let the teams play. Given the flag fests we've seen before, it was a great job by this crew.

I'm not sure why the refs don't just signal TD if it is close like that and they aren't sure...because then the play will be automatically reviewed. If a ref is 90% convinced he saw something, fine. But when they are all looking at each other and clearly not sure what to do...rule TD and let the replay ref determine what the hell happened.

[mmmdk]

Good point.

Also kudos to Kuhn's 2 TDs but far too many short yardage plays getting stuffed. Part him but also part O line.

Kuhn is part Wolverine, part Transformer (think Helicopter) but stuffing thing was ALL O line! It's a WW known fact.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Studs-
Walden - aside from one play when he lost outside contain, this might have been his best game as a professional. looked like a monster out there.
Shields - awesome out there, throwing his body around, solid coverage
Harris - just provides a different element. the difference between him and grant is staggering.
MM - not a big fan of his 4th quarter turtle offense, I was very happy to see the short game in tact for the first time all year like he was saving his cover 2 beater for the playoffs. screens and dump offs ... Love it!

Duds -
Hawk - Just because I had to pick someone

At home, I was ripping Walden for losing contain early. I've seen it too often. I told superfan that he needs to be benched. Then, he turns it around (although some of it was dumb luck). Dude had a good game. I wish he was more consistent. I'm still hoping Perry returns healthy and improved next year, so I don't have to watch Walden.

[Guiness]

I'll actually give a Stud to the officials. Other than the blown TD call on the field, which was tough to see and they got it right on review, they were pretty invisible and just let the teams play. Given the flag fests we've seen before, it was a great job by this crew.

Agreed. There were just not a lot of flags last night.

The blow TD call is weird. If MM thinks it's a TD, he's in a tough spot because of that rule about not being able to throw the flag in certain situations...as we saw last week. It was not signaled a TD, he thought it was and challenged, but could not challenge for a different reason - because it was a turnover. Which is automatically reviewed, and can't be challenged unless it can be, which happens when it's ruled no fumble but you think it is. Pbmax explained this to me I bet that know it all can even tell you what constitutes a catch in the end zone!! lol

I can't see them keeping that rule in place next season. A coach almost has to go ask the referee if he is allowed to challenge...

[Guiness]

Stud: Shields, some great run support. He got good outside contain on #28 a couple of times.

Duds: the D on the long TD pass that had Hawk trailing behind the WR on what looked like a post corner or maybe just a straight fly route. I think it was a post corner run from the slot, or why else would the MLB have been following him out there??? I watched the presser after the game, and was hopping someone would ask what happened there.

[pbmax]

At home, I was ripping Walden for losing contain early. I've seen it too often. I told superfan that he needs to be benched. Then, he turns it around (although some of it was dumb luck). Dude had a good game. I wish he was more consistent. I'm still hoping Perry returns healthy and improved next year, so I don't have to watch Walden.

Agree with your initial read. McGinn also mentioned three significant Webb runs and put the blame on Walden twice, during first two series. But after that, he and Moses stayed put.

A lot of this is trust. You see such a good back stopped but not yet tackled and you want to close fast and finish it before he can do something else. But by staying put you keep five other teammates in the play and give them a chance to tackle as well. If you close, RB can escape everybody else and then beat you one on one.

Een if you are successful in getting AP down, the habit comes back to bite you if the QB bootlegs out.

[swede]

Kuhn is a guy. He is a guy that has to handle the ball in some of the most obvious and artless short-yardage running plays I have ever seen. Listen to me, and I am serious about this, Stubby needs a short-yardage offensive coordinator to walk over and grab his freaking headset whenever we have third and three or less to call something other than "what if we give the lead blocker the ball--again---and again----and again----and again" or "bombs away!"

Paradoxically, Stubby gets the headset back for 4th and shorts where he is pretty much money.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Stud: Shields, some great run support. He got good outside contain on #28 a couple of times.

Duds: the D on the long TD pass that had Hawk trailing behind the WR on what looked like a post corner or maybe just a straight fly route. I think it was a post corner run from the slot, or why else would the MLB have been following him out there??? I watched the presser after the game, and was hopping someone would ask what happened there.

To me, it was Woodson. Williams goes and covers a WR on an out and Woodson just kinda hangs around by the LOS. Don't know where the hell the safties were though. Hawk had to be dropping back in a zone as there's no way he was supposed to cover a WR.

[Freak Out]

I just don't get some of the Kuhn runs being called in the situations they packers were in. With all the weapons they have at their disposal you would think M3 on crew could come up with something that stands a better chance of succeeding.

[Freak Out]

We know what the Packers are capable of when the team is healthy...even with a garbage OL. This game proves very little IMHO because of the loss of Ponder. Sure the D contained the Purple Messiah...but last night that's all they really had to worry about this time around. Webb was horrific.

[Pugger]

I hope we attack Gore like we did AP last night and stay in our lanes. That way we can keep both Gore and their rookie QB in front of us.

[MadScientist]

Duds:
Team 'energy' at the start of the game. The defense lets Webb lead a scoring drive and the offense goes 3 and out. This has been happening almost every week.

Whoever blew coverage so badly that even Webb could throw a TD pass.