RGIII's knee

[red]

this is why you don't keep playing your injured superstar

he came into the game with a "mild sprain of the LCL"

we all so the knee buckle yesterday and its now being reported that an early MRI done last night shows possible tears of both the LCL and now ACL

the redskins are saying that they don't know if the injuries are new or old (he torn his ACL in college), however PFT makes a great point. 4 weeks ago the redskins showed that MRI's showed no structural damage to the knee at all. so if the LCL and ACL now looked torn, it would have to be a new injury.

the skins gave up 3 first round picks, and a second round pick to get him, now their coach just put the future of his team in jeopardy by continuing to ride is QB when it was clear he was injured.

RgIII's 2013 season now looks to be in jeopardy

[Pugger]

I heard he could be out for up to 14 months! Damn fools in DC. Maybe Robert should consult with AP's doctors...

[red]

I heard he could be out for up to 14 months! Damn fools in DC. Maybe Robert should consult with AP's doctors...

roberts doctor is AP's doctor

james andrews is the knee guru that fixed up AP, he's also the redskins team doctor and the guy RGIII will be going to see tomorrow

[Pugger]

roberts doctor is AP's doctor

james andrews is the knee guru that fixed up AP, he's also the redskins team doctor and the guy RGIII will be going to see tomorrow

Good. I like RG3. I think he is an exciting player and I hope the idiots in DC don't mess around with him like that again.

[Freak Out]

Didn't that Rat play him against the advice of the good doctor?

[red]

let me throw out an anology. this is how i felt yesterday. and just to be clear, i was tearing up a bit while i was yelling at the TV to get the poor kid out of there

if that was the kentucky derby and a horse broke out of the gate and immediately started to hobble, the jockey would quickly try and bring the horse to a stop and get off of him to try and prevent further damage.

what we saw was a horse break from the gate and get injured on the front stretch. instead of slowing the horse down and getting off of him, we saw the jockey pull out the whip and take it to the horse. we watch the horse get worse and worse as it went around the track only to watch the horse destroy itself coming back into the front stretch

if RGIII wasn't a human his coach would be brought up on cruelty charges

[gbgary]

as someone wrote yesterday...makes you appreciate the Packers' conservative approach with bringing injured players back. damn shame about rg3...he'll probably miss at least half of next season (depending on what they do and what kind of rehab warrior he is).

[LegandofthePack15]

if RGIII wasn't a human his coach would be brought up on cruelty charges

The Chargers once let Rivers play the whole game with a torn ACL.

Its the playoffs. Players usually display Favre toughness and play through an injury, Jay Cutler and Christian Ponder notwithstanding (not that I am complaining).

[Joemailman]

this is why you don't keep playing your injured superstar

he came into the game with a "mild sprain of the LCL"

we all so the knee buckle yesterday and its now being reported that an early MRI done last night shows possible tears of both the LCL and now ACL

the redskins are saying that they don't know if the injuries are new or old (he torn his ACL in college), however PFT makes a great point. 4 weeks ago the redskins showed that MRI's showed no structural damage to the knee at all. so if the LCL and ACL now looked torn, it would have to be a new injury.

the skins gave up 3 first round picks, and a second round pick to get him, now their coach just put the future of his team in jeopardy by continuing to ride is QB when it was clear he was injured.

RgIII's 2013 season now looks to be in jeopardy

This might also be why you don't want your QB to have 120 rushing attempts in a season. The NFL season is too long, and you want to keep to a minimum the number of hits a QB takes. If they keep playing him like this, they will shorten his career. If they haven't already.

[sheepshead]

Shanny is a past-his-prime head coach with a highly caffeinated owner that got caught up in the hype. Hopefully he didn’t ruin a good kid. Leslie Frazier’s example should have been heeded.

Frazier earned more of my respect with his move and it tells me the Vikings will be a contender for a while.

[mmmdk]

Shanny is a past-his-prime head coach with a highly caffeinated owner that got caught up in the hype. Hopefully he didn’t ruin a good kid. Leslie Frazier’s example should have been heeded.

Frazier earned more of my respect with his move and it tells me the Vikings will be a contender for a while.

[mraynrand]

Red, the horse analogy doesn't hold up because the horse doesn't have a choice. RGIII came out in support of his coach, so it seems he pushed really hard to play. I was reminded of the situation early in Michael Jordan's career where he had a leg injury and for a while continued to play through it. I seem to recall his coach (Collins) eventually wanted to shut him down, but Jordan kept pushing. In part, that conflict led to the dismissal of Collins. RGIII seems to have done about the same thing, except for not being a jerk. To me, once I realized how limited RGII was, it seemed like an easy call to replace him, but then I saw what happened to the team when he was visibly hurting - they collapsed. The one thing that seems kinda obvious is that Shanny knew there was a pretty good chance RGIII couldn't finish, it was certain he wasn't going to be able to run much, so that it would have made a hell of a lot of sense to replace RGIII at halftime and run the offense they used to beat Cleveland with the other rookie Kirk Cousins (He's Kirk, he should be able to kick some ass). Isn't that why they drafted him anyway?

[pbmax]

The Chargers once let Rivers play the whole game with a torn ACL.

Its the playoffs. Players usually display Favre toughness and play through an injury, Jay Cutler and Christian Ponder notwithstanding (not that I am complaining).

Dennis Dixon did this as well, came back to play without an ACL in the same season.

However, in neither case was the tear the second in the same knee for either player.

If Griffin didn't have a complete tear before he stumbled with the bad snap, then its a call you make based on speculation. With a second injury to the same knee, I think Andrews should have insisted on him coming out.

But as Coach, Shanahan could plainly see he could not run effectively anymore. To continue with him was just wishful thinking and a lack of faith in the backup. Both are poor reflections on the Head Coach.

[wootah]

I agree with red on this topic: it was just painful to watch. When it was clear they weren't pulling him, it became just hoping he would get to the end without more harm.

RG3 is a fighter. He would've got back into the game with a wheelchair if they let him. Shanahan made a huge coaching mistake IMO, he should have made him ride the stationary bike.

[Pugger]

Dennis Dixon did this as well, came back to play without an ACL in the same season.

However, in neither case was the tear the second in the same knee for either player.

If Griffin didn't have a complete tear before he stumbled with the bad snap, then its a call you make based on speculation. With a second injury to the same knee, I think Andrews should have insisted on him coming out.

But as Coach, Shanahan could plainly see he could not run effectively anymore. To continue with him was just wishful thinking and a lack of faith in the backup. Both are poor reflections on the Head Coach.

What is crazy is Cousins did play well enough to them to win a few weeks ago. They got a 2 score lead but because their offense shut down with a crippled RG3 it was only a matter of time before the Wash defense ran out of gas. I don't care what the idiots on BSPN were saying that you don't take a guy out in that situation because he is your starter. If the guy can't perform up to standards you bring somebody in who can at least walk without a limp and can complete a pass. Shanahan was also stupid not to hand it off to their RB, especially when they were on their own 4 yard line. After a 3 and out the chickens of the SEA had a short field and scored.