Dom Capers era ends tonignt

[Guiness]

So many people convinced that punt in the 4th was a horrible idea...

We put them in side their own 10. Our D had to get a stop. A lot of time on the clock. We were down by two scores, our D had to make a stop to get us back in the game.

[pbmax]

So many people convinced that punt in the 4th was a horrible idea...

We put them in side their own 10. Our D had to get a stop. A lot of time on the clock. We were down by two scores, our D had to make a stop to get us back in the game.

Its an obvious call now, but at the time you had to be convinced the D would continue to collapse.

In retrospect, McCarthy rarely gives in even when the other team has an edge. I am sure he thought he still should be able to trust the D to stop a 90 yard drive.

[Joemailman]

So many people convinced that punt in the 4th was a horrible idea...

We put them in side their own 10. Our D had to get a stop. A lot of time on the clock. We were down by two scores, our D had to make a stop to get us back in the game.

But by punting, you're requiring the defense to stop them twice. A defense that was gassed by that point because they couldn't get off the field all night. Very unrealistic on MM's part.

[denverYooper]

So many people convinced that punt in the 4th was a horrible idea...

We put them in side their own 10. Our D had to get a stop. A lot of time on the clock. We were down by two scores, our D had to make a stop to get us back in the game.

Fair point, except that D was an adventure against Kaepernick. And we've seen GB aggressive in what would seem to be equivalent situations -- end of the Minny game and down by 7 with 5:45 left.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

But by punting, you're requiring the defense to stop them twice. A defense that was gassed by that point because they couldn't get off the field all night. Very unrealistic on MM's part.

This. And with Andy Lee punting the ball they wouldn't have to move the ball very far to change the field position back in their favor.

[easy cheesy]

Blitz=Shitz

[pittstang5]

As much as I want to see heads roll because of this pathetic excuse of a defensive performance tonight, I don't know why, but I don't want to see Capers fired. I like this scheme (3-4), it works when executed properly and as mentioned, there's no way you go to something else as long as Mathews is around.

I fear that if Capers is canned, the D will be set back for a couple years.

[packers11]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000125603/article/packers-have-soulsearching-to-do-after-blowout-loss

[Joemailman]

I fear that if Capers is canned, the D will be set back for a couple years.

But the question is whether the status quo is worth preserving. They had a great playoff run in 2010, but the other three years they've given up 51, 37 and 45 in the playoffs.

[pbmax]

But the question is whether the status quo is worth preserving. They had a great playoff run in 2010, but the other three years they've given up 51, 37 and 45 in the playoffs.

Its a fair question. To me, it looks for all the world like the players can't execute the idea. But if the coach isn't getting the idea across, then scheme won't help. But is it Capers, the assistants or the mix of M3's assistants (Moss and Whitt) plus Capers (Perry and Green)?

I think the common denominator is talent. Too many holes, still, in that front. Depth in back looks ok.

[mission]

I think other teams do more with less, PB. I'm putting this on Capers

[Joemailman]

Its a fair question. To me, it looks for all the world like the players can't execute the idea. But if the coach isn't getting the idea across, then scheme won't help. But is it Capers, the assistants or the mix of M3's assistants (Moss and Whitt) plus Capers (Perry and Green)?

I think the common denominator is talent. Too many holes, still, in that front. Depth in back looks ok.

If the players can't execute the idea, maybe the idea is too complex. The Packers do so much substituting with their sub-packages, I find it difficult to keep track of who is in the game. I wonder if complexity hurts cohesiveness. The 49ers this year had 9 defensive players play at least 90% of the snaps. It would have been 10 if Justin Smith hadn't gotten hurt. Now that be be the other extreme, but I wonder if communication among the Packer players is hurt by the amount of substituting they do.

[woodbuck27]

How many fucking Packer games do I have to watch where the Packers D gives up some sort of record! Good Lord! Horrible. Dom Capers needs to go. Our MLB are terrible! Were they even on the field tonight? Tramon is soft as hell and the D line was weak. Walden gets sucked in on every play action! Does this guy not learn.

And while A Rod is NOT the problem, lets be honest, he was off on his deep ball all season. That problem reared its ugly head again tonight.

SLOPPY!

Don't worry.

Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy will discover their scapegoat. It won't be Aaron Rodgers. It won't be Tramone Williams.

On our 'D' we needed more strength in the middle of our DLine. Overall our 'D' looked confused and very tired. Our Linebackers looked near invisable. I say get rid or all of them except Clay Matthews. Get him some real help.

Why were we so soundly beaten? You need not look any further than this. This has been an issue for too many seasons now. Our team has fits trying to stop an effective running game.

San Fran 49ers Rushing

Player .....................ATT........ YDS..........TD............ LG

** C. Kaepernick ....... 16 ......... 181 ......... 2 ........... 56T

F. Gore.................... 23...........119...........1..............26

L. James................... 3............ 21........... 0.............. 14

A. Dixon.................... 1............ 2............ 1.............. 2T

** As Joe Buck told us 'over and over'. The 'All Time - All Game' RUSHING RECORD for an NFL QB !

Kaepernick and Gore combined for 300 yards on the ground and 3 TD's. Ralph !!!!

Colin Kaepernick might have made that worse! I can't wait for the time some team manages to 'HIT' this laughing man. We sure 'as HELL" missed that boat last night.

This loss cannot all be blamed on the Packer 'D'. The Packers third down efficiency wasn't good:

PACKERS Third Down Efficiency 5/12 = 41%

So we see this revealing statistic:

TOP San Francisco 49ers: 38:01

TOP Green Bay Packers: 21:59 and ..... the 'rest of the story' was on the scoreboard.

49ers 45 - Packers 31

[woodbuck27]

I think other teams do more with less, PB. I'm putting this on Capers

No .... it's a Packer personnel issue. It's an issue with player talent/skills. Simply this ! There is 'only' so much any coach can do to deliver on coaching. A coach needs talent to be supplied by a teams GM and scouting staff.

We need more players at LBer with Clay Matthews talent. The Packers must eliminate the deadwood at the LBer position.

GO PACKERS !

[pbmax]

If the players can't execute the idea, maybe the idea is too complex. The Packers do so much substituting with their sub-packages, I find it difficult to keep track of who is in the game. I wonder if complexity hurts cohesiveness. The 49ers this year had 9 defensive players play at least 90% of the snaps. It would have been 10 if Justin Smith hadn't gotten hurt. Now that be be the other extreme, but I wonder if communication among the Packer players is hurt by the amount of substituting they do.

Perhaps. They play a lot of sub, but those schemes are pretty straightforward. They don't disguise a lot or split the field in half (half zone half man). They run cover 1 and 2 are on rare long distance they backup to Cover 3. Its mostly nickel, with base and dime thrown in. I could easily be missing something, but I don't think he is doing anything experimental back there.

They did look terrible at recognizing the read option ball movement. Even if Aikman was right and the OLB and ILB were scraping and Walden was supposed to crash inside, they still missed the ball fake and the OLB was never in a position to recover and help on the QB keep. Of course, CK wasn't there anymore, having gotten right past Jones. The irony is that Hawk's on kamikaze rush to the outside seemed to dissuade CK from keeping it to his side. After that, someone adjusted and left Jones on that side.