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  • #61
    Originally posted by King Friday View Post
    Our problems on defense come down to 2 things. The first is that our LBs are not good enough as a whole. Clay is a stud...everyone else is horribly mediocre. If you are going to run a 3-4 defense, you need a bunch of good LBs...not just one. I guess the jury is still out on Perry. Maybe he can turn into a good LB. Even if he does pan out, we still need more than 2 good LBs as well.
    I agree with this, and I think the losses of Bishop, Smith, and Perry really hurt. Matthews is a stud, Bishop is good, Smith looked like a keeper, jury is out on Perry. This position could be fixed just by getting people healthy, but I'd draft one or two more to protect myself.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Iron Mike View Post
      Can I have some of that crack you're smoking?? This loss WAS all on the "D."
      NO it has to be shared.

      Does our 'D' have anything to do with **3rd down efficiency on 'O' ? How did **that** compare to the 49ers?

      Try 41% for the Packers Vs 61% for the 49ers.

      Does offensive game planning have anything to do with our 'D'?

      Our 'O' had to take heat off of the Packer 'D' and failed to do so. Check out the 'Time Of Possession' stat. Is our 'D' that bad that the unbalance in that statistic could be so great?

      49ers 38:01 Vs Packers 21:59. That disparity is huge.
      Last edited by woodbuck27; 01-13-2013, 09:39 AM.
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      • #63
        Troy-boy did make a somewhat interesting comment that Greg Roman worked with Capers on the Carolina staff and knew pretty well how Dom would try to respond to plays.

        It's not the first time I've heard that sentiment.
        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
          NO it has to be shared.

          Does our 'D' have anything to do with **3rd down efficiency on 'O' ? How did **that** compare to the 49ers?

          Try 41% for the Packers Vs 61% for the 49ers.

          Does offensive game planning have anything to do with our 'D'?

          Our 'O' had to take heat off of the Packer 'D' and failed to do so. Check out the 'Time Of Possession' stat. Is our 'D' that bad that the unbalance in that statistic could be so great?

          49ers 38:01 Vs Packers 21:59. That disparity is huge.
          Woody, I don't know if you know this, but converting 41% on 3rd down is quite good. The league average is 38%. Allowing 61% is horrendous. The worst teams in the NFL this year allowed 44%.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
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          • #65
            Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
            Troy-boy did make a somewhat interesting comment that Greg Roman worked with Capers on the Carolina staff and knew pretty well how Dom would try to respond to plays.

            It's not the first time I've heard that sentiment.
            That was a long time ago. Almost as long ago as Fangio (San Fran DC) working for Capers.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
              I agree with this, and I think the losses of Bishop, Smith, and Perry really hurt. Matthews is a stud, Bishop is good, Smith looked like a keeper, jury is out on Perry. This position could be fixed just by getting people healthy, but I'd draft one or two more to protect myself.
              I agree with LB being the biggest concern.

              But D line is still not far behind. Was it Wilson who graded out spectacularly well in run D a year ago (or more) to everyone's surprise? By splitting 3-4 and 4-3 D line depth, the run D isn't going to get better up front and depth isn't likely to improve either. Daniels and Worthy are ready for base D yet.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #67
                "I think when the game is going the way it is, you have to try something different," Woodson said. "It's hard to just continue to do the same thing over and over again when they continue to burn you.

                "Going forward, we have to look at could we have done something different."
                ......

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                • #68
                  It didn't help that MM abandoned the run yet again last night. Harris was averaging 4.8 yards against that defense but I don't recall seeing him in the backfield in the 3rd quarter. Why we didn't keep giving it to him in that first series in the second half when were only down by 3 is a puzzlement to me.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                    ......
                    The interesting thing here is that the Packers could be looking at doing something other than Woodson. He is not good at deep safety and he is not built to survive as a SS. At his cap number, he is a luxury.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      Woody, I don't know if you know this, but converting 41% on 3rd down is quite good. The league average is 38%. Allowing 61% is horrendous. The worst teams in the NFL this year allowed 44%.
                      I concede to your observation based on the seasonal stat for 3rd down conversions. 41% efficiency would fit with the top third of the NFL teams on 3rd down efficiency.

                      Yes 61 % conversion by the 49ers was abnormally high by some 12-13% (See N. E. Pat's @ a league best 48.7 %).
                      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                        Clay and Ware on the same D would be obscene, but one or both would have to take pretty well below market to make that happen.
                        Even if one wouldn't have to take a pay cut, it will NEVER happen. TT will not let it.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          It didn't help that MM abandoned the run yet again last night. Harris was averaging 4.8 yards against that defense but I don't recall seeing him in the backfield in the 3rd quarter. Why we didn't keep giving it to him in that first series in the second half when were only down by 3 is a puzzlement to me.
                          I said that last night in the game thread, the run was working but dumbass MM abandoned it yet again. It's like sometimes if he can't win his way, he says fuck winning.

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                          • #73
                            We can bemoan the inadequacies of the Packer D while the broadcast windsocks declare the read option the new sliced bread of the NFL. My take is that Alex Smith is one jarring tackle away from being the starting QB for the 9ers once again. A lot of people are suffering from short term RGIII memory loss.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Old School View Post
                              We can bemoan the inadequacies of the Packer D while the broadcast windsocks declare the read option the new sliced bread of the NFL. My take is that Alex Smith is one jarring tackle away from being the starting QB for the 9ers once again. A lot of people are suffering from short term RGIII memory loss.
                              Kaepernick did take one or two nasty hits last night that were I a Niners fan would have had me panicking. One in particular where he got great yardage, but two of our guys sandwiched him at the end.
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                              • #75
                                agreed, all of these "read option" / running QB's are one good hit away from being high paid bench warmers......they never last for very long.

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