Dom Capers era ends tonignt

[denverYooper]

As far as the article goes, it just boils down all of the Packer fan ranting that has been going on. There's nothing really informative there, except that Bishop was the only one they were able to get ahold of yesterday (a fact over which much harumphing was done on Twitter).

It's funny that 'spoon played the finesse angle and discounted all of the players that were thought to be of that mold. Manning? Injured. Perry? Injured. McMillan? Too short. Bishop? Injured, etc, etc. Heyward is a finesse guy (and a candidate for DROY, but that doesn't count because he's too finess-y). Worthy, Neal, and Daniels are "finesse" guys, ignoring the fact that they have been injured and/or haven't developed yet. With a good offseason and healthy season, those guys could be exactly what they need to handle running QBs.

What a bunch of rubbish.

Ha. Just posted this in the wrong thread. Supposed to be in the Critical changes thread but Patler covered it in spades there.

[mraynrand]

Sherman panicked and quickly found a scapegoat.

If that's true, why hasn't Ed been a DC ever since? Maybe Donatell really isn't all that great a DC.

[mraynrand]

As far as the article goes, it just boils down all of the Packer fan ranting that has been going on. There's nothing really informative there, except that Bishop was the only one they were able to get ahold of yesterday (a fact over which much harumphing was done on Twitter).

It's funny that 'spoon played the finesse angle and discounted all of the players that were thought to be of that mold. Manning? Injured. Perry? Injured. McMillan? Too short. Bishop? Injured, etc, etc. Heyward is a finesse guy (and a candidate for DROY, but that doesn't count because he's too finess-y). Worthy, Neal, and Daniels are "finesse" guys, ignoring the fact that they have been injured and/or haven't developed yet. With a good offseason and healthy season, those guys could be exactly what they need to handle running QBs.

What a bunch of rubbish.

Ha. Just posted this in the wrong thread. Supposed to be in the Critical changes thread but Patler covered it in spades there.

you are a finesse poster

[hoosier]

If that's true, why hasn't Ed been a DC ever since? Maybe Donatell really isn't all that great a DC.

I wouldn't say he was great, just that the loss to Philly wasn't primarily his fault: Sherman could have avoided it if he had been more aggressive earlier, and, if I remember correctly, he reportedly overrode Donatell's decision to blitz McNabb on 4th down. Donatell wasn't fired for his faults, whatever they might have been, he was fired (scapegoated) because of 4th and 26.

[mraynrand]

I agree that Sherman threw him under the bus. But it's also possible he wasn't all that good as coordinator. Like I said above, it will be interesting what happens to him after the Niner run is over. There is also a possibility he will reprise his role as holo Doctor aboard the Voyager.

[woodbuck27]

That was an idiotic firing. It wasn't until Bates (all of one year and an outmoded scheme to boot) that Sherman fixed that error. Donatell wasn't the second coming of Bud Carson, but he ran a good, solid D. Sherman panicked and made an emotional decision in this case. par for the course with him as he always acted like one decision held the key to all problems.

Send that post in 'memo form' to MM... please.

[pbmax]

If that's true, why hasn't Ed been a DC ever since? Maybe Donatell really isn't all that great a DC.

I think he was DC once more, wasn't he? It was a short term deal though.

[Bub]

Moss would be good since toughness, hitting and fundamentals need to be preached and reinforced as per Bishop.

I don't understand the love for Moss. His unit was terrible. The same can be said for Perry.

[Joemailman]

I don't understand the love for Moss. His unit was terrible. The same can be said for Perry.

It's not Moss's fault he was stuck with Brad Jones as a starter. Losing Bishop and D.J. Smith was too much to overcome.

[woodbuck27]

It's not Moss's fault he was stuck with Brad Jones as a starter. Losing Bishop and D.J. Smith was too much to overcome.

Losing Desmond Bishop looks huge now. Personally I didn't acquire enough first hand info on D. J. Smith to get into any conversation on his value at LBer.

[Patler]

Re: Winston Moss

Notice that after a flurry of attention a few years ago for HC and DC openings (and several interviews, I think?), his name is never mentioned for those types of openings anymore?

[woodbuck27]

There is this and 'the BIG GAME' in the playoffs:

In the Packers' last three playoff losses, Green Bay has allowed 51, 37 and 45 points or an average of 44 points/game.

Aaron Rodgers and his offense, need to get more than 6 TD's to cover that.

[Bub]

Losing Desmond Bishop looks huge now. Personally I didn't acquire enough first hand info on D. J. Smith to get into any conversation on his value at LBer.

Sure Bishop is better than what we put on the field but it's not like our ILBs have been a powerhouse by any means. Even the few times Bishop has been healthy our ILBs haven't been good. Collectively the defense has been garbage. There’s no way we should have given up 300+ yards to SF and over 500 in 3 games to AP on the ground. A lot of that falls on the ILBs in a 3/4.

The same with Perry. How many times have there been "mis-communications" in the secondary? I don't see that happen all that much with the teams that we've played. Our young DBs were impressive this year individually but collectively coverage breakdowns were abundant. I think that falls on the coaches...mostly Whitt (sp?) and Perry.

Sorry....I must be in the mood to bitch (maybe I'm on my period) and I'm working to meet my 2 posts a year quota.

[pbmax]

Re: Winston Moss

Notice that after a flurry of attention a few years ago for HC and DC openings (and several interviews, I think?), his name is never mentioned for those types of openings anymore?

It seems obvious now, but also seemed possible then, that those were largely cosmetic and to satisfy the Rooney Rule only.

[LegandofthePack15]

I think he was DC once more, wasn't he? It was a short term deal though.

Donatell went to the lost city of Atlanta and coordinated the defense under Jim Mora the 2nd for 3 seasons. Mora and his entire coaching staff were canned shortly after the feds unjustly sent Mike Vick to prison for killing a bunch of animals (who hasn't?) and gambling across state lines (who hasn't?).