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  • #31
    Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
    Which is more like what the Patriots do, no?

    It was too bad they swapped Cobb for Harris in the backfield. I suspect that was for theoretically more explosive plays but it didn't amount to much as Cobb was not having the success running that Harris was.
    Yes. And as someone last night made the observation, before Gronk went out that the Patriots two TE/one RB offense was close to becoming a 2 RB offense.

    Running an empty backfield makes sense if that guy is dominating, but it makes more sense to get an advantage in coverage. When that wasn't working, time to go back to plan A.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      The no huddle was critical to keep the niners in base. This allows for more favorable match-ups.

      MM needs to trust A-rod more just like Capers needs to trust Woodson more.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
        The no huddle was critical to keep the niners in base. This allows for more favorable match-ups.

        MM needs to trust A-rod more just like Capers needs to trust Woodson more.
        I would agree with both in the theoretical sense. But it wasn't working in the second half.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          Even when there was no sack, the O-line was getting pushed right into Rodgers. I swear he was trying to throw from a 2 foot by 2 foot "pocket" most of the night.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            I would agree with both in the theoretical sense. But it wasn't working in the second half.
            It needs to start at the beginning of the week until the last snap. Too many coaches are control freaks.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
              Even when there was no sack, the O-line was getting pushed right into Rodgers. I swear he was trying to throw from a 2 foot by 2 foot "pocket" most of the night.
              Shotgun with quick routes. A-rod stated the line held up well.

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              • #37
                This offense has gone away from the premises of the west coast offense. The packers run the slant less than five times a game complete less than one per game. The 3 step drop quicks are all but gone under McCarthy and Rodgers. Defenses aren't getting beat deep any more because they don't respect the double move anymore because the Packers don't throw the slant or the out route.

                I am certainly not capable of understanding the complexity of running an NFL offense, but it seemed like the slant was always an easy 8 yards that could go for more. Thinking Favre to Jennings in 2008.

                The offense just didn't control the football, it seems like a surprise when defenses blitz, or when blitz is read Rodgers is still calling plays down field and ignoring hot routes. It is hard to arguing with the passing production over the past few seasons, but at a certain point against quality opponents in the playoffs the offense seems to leak oil.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                  This offense has gone away from the premises of the west coast offense. The packers run the slant less than five times a game complete less than one per game. The 3 step drop quicks are all but gone under McCarthy and Rodgers. Defenses aren't getting beat deep any more because they don't respect the double move anymore because the Packers don't throw the slant or the out route.

                  I am certainly not capable of understanding the complexity of running an NFL offense, but it seemed like the slant was always an easy 8 yards that could go for more. Thinking Favre to Jennings in 2008.

                  The offense just didn't control the football, it seems like a surprise when defenses blitz, or when blitz is read Rodgers is still calling plays down field and ignoring hot routes. It is hard to arguing with the passing production over the past few seasons, but at a certain point against quality opponents in the playoffs the offense seems to leak oil.

                  Currently during the playoffs the Packers only chance is to outscore opponents.

                  The offense is only dripping oil -- the defense needs an overhaul.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                    Currently during the playoffs the Packers only chance is to outscore opponents.

                    The offense is only dripping oil -- the defense needs an overhaul.
                    You're a broken record. The offense scored 17 meaningful points. Suck on that. You don't win games scoring 17 points on offense.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                      You're a broken record. The offense scored 17 meaningful points. Suck on that. You don't win games scoring 17 points on offense.
                      Suck on your own nutz braddah. As A-rod stated -- plays were left on the field. The offense was good the defense was horrible.

                      The run and shoot and no huddle needed to be the game plan -- not running the ball as Jimmy Johnson pointed out.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                        You're a broken record. The offense scored 17 meaningful points. Suck on that. You don't win games scoring 17 points on offense.
                        Some people require remedial help.

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                        • #42
                          I think my favorite play of the night was 5 wide that had the DB's pointing and looking around. Motion Cobb to the backfield and have him run. Was it 1 yard or 2? Can't remember. Fucking genius.
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                            Shotgun with quick routes. A-rod stated the line held up well.
                            Yes, exactly. He had his tackles in his lap even though they were often in shotgun with quick routes.

                            I did not expect A-rod to say something anything bad about line.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                              You're a broken record. The offense scored 17 meaningful points. Suck on that. You don't win games scoring 17 points on offense.
                              The offense had a solid drive in the second half to tie the game. Three long drives by the Niners put it away. Packers had two meaningful drives in the second half to counter 31-24 and 38-24. So I guess the offense came up empty on those two drives; at 38-24 they had a nice drive that stalled where they should have gone for it on fourth down.

                              With a decent defense, they might have had 4 or 5 possessions in a tie situation of being down by 3 or 7 points, with more chances to counter, and not having to make up 14 points. The collapse of the defense had a huge impact on the offense.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #45
                                The offense has been a bit inconsistent all season. This game was no different.

                                It seems to have been close all year, but never able to get over the hump. Constantly changing WRs and RBs didn't help, but even early on something was missing.

                                It seemed to come and go, almost possession by possession. They would either go three-and-out, or drive the length of the field, be it 50 yards or 85 yards. Rarely did they seem to get a first down or two, then stall and punt.

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