Offense Versus 49ers

[mraynrand]

Yet another side effect of having Erik Walden on your team.

Good one. On a serious note, has anyone checked on Walden's GF since the game? People are concerned.

[pbmax]

And? So you are saying the Packers realize their defense was sucking in the worst way, and had to compensate with taking chances on down and distance. I think they actually did some of that - like the bomb attempt to Jennings that just missed. But they didn't risk the two fourth down attempts that might have helped them lose by 7-10 instead of the 3 TD slaughter until garbage time. They moved the ball reasonably well against the best defense in the NFL, they just didn't have enough chances.

Moving the ball reasonably well is the entire point. Some games, that isn't enough. During this game, you can't count on the D winning TOP and field position on its own in the second half.

I am not making the offense equivalent to the defense when comparing each to a League average. The Defense was far worse in that measure. But in a game where they desperately needed that offense to hit on all cylinders and make some drives, they sputtered like they had all season. Against a team that can run and is willing to do so (forget CK for a moment) you aren't going to get 10 possessions by the 4th quarter. The clock is not their friend in this game. Hurry up or not, possessions will be limited. CK actually helped in this regard by scoring so fast twice.

I might go back and look at this game and the season by the numbers and decide I am being too hard on the offense. But even if you forget the offensive dominance from 2011, there were precious few games this year where the offense was able to work its will. And so my opinion is that McCarthy should have played the game like he was behind the entire second half concerning 4th downs. And when passing versus their base wasn't working, put Harris back in the game.

Before a SNF game, McCarthy said he all but throttled back the offense because he felt like they put the defense in far too many bad situations in 2011. He might simply have been dissembling on a question about matching last years offensive production. But if any part of that is true, I am not sure it helped at all. Injuries hurt this year. But they couldn't run last year either and Clifton and Newhouse both played worse than Newhouse did this year.

[woodbuck27]

Packer Offense Vs the 49ers !?



Where Was It ??

[KYPack]

Good one. On a serious note, has anyone checked on Walden's GF since the game? People are concerned.

Beat that ass, Erik.

[MadtownPacker]

And? So you are saying the Packers realize their defense was sucking in the worst way, and had to compensate with taking chances on down and distance. I think they actually did some of that - like the bomb attempt to Jennings that just missed. But they didn't risk the two fourth down attempts that might have helped them lose by 7-10 instead of the 3 TD slaughter until garbage time. They moved the ball reasonably well against the best defense in the NFL, they just didn't have enough chances.

I have to wonder if the defense was feeling the same way? The offense could barely stay on the field in the first half. Not sure why you believe the offense was anywhere near good. The niners had the ball the whole first half. The offense seemed fine to start but then they went into M3 mode (chuck it deep on 3rd and short) and Rodgers was left to run for his life. What happened to the short throws from last Saturday vs MN? The whole teamed suck more balls than Harlan in a park bathroom.

So how did the offense not have enough chances? Did the niners recover onside kicks after each time they scored?

[mraynrand]

Part of the reason the Niners had more TOP in the first half was they received the kickoff, they gave up an INT for a TD and the ST blunder also gave them another possession, albeit a short one. It adds up.

The offense didn't give up 600 yards

[mraynrand]

The Packers played a pretty good defense in the NFCC game in 2010 in the Chicago Bears. The difference was that the Packer defense shut down the Bear's offense, which wasn't very good. That defense also limited the Eagles and the Falcons - and even the Steelers with multiple injuries. How many points did the Packer O put up against the Bears in the season finale, against them in the NFCC game, or against the Eagle and Steelers? Not more than they got against the best defense in football on Sunday. So yeah, the loss falls on the fucking defense that allowed 600 fucking yards and three straight TD drives after the game was tied. Fuck you all if you don't get this.

[PA Pack Fan]

Fuck you all if you don't get this.

You are one serious fucking idiot.

[mraynrand]

You are one serious fucking idiot.

I ran out of arguments, so it was either swearing or name calling. I picked swearing. Serious swearing.

[PA Pack Fan]

I ran out of arguments, so it was either swearing or name calling. I picked swearing. Serious swearing.

lol...Go Pack!

[Joemailman]

I ran out of arguments, so it was either swearing or name calling. I picked swearing. Serious swearing.

What a God-Damned idiot you are.

[Pugger]

Evidently Rodgers was hobbled a lot more than anybody let on especially in the second half of the season. How many times did he pass the ball on 3rd and short rather than run the ball? He admitted in his radio show on ESPN Milwaukee yesterday he flunked his Pro-Bowl physical saying he had knee and ankle issues but didn't elaborate so he will not go to Honolulu. We gotta improve the O line either by getting our tackles back and a center or adding some O linemen via FA or the draft.

[woodbuck27]

Evidently Rodgers was hobbled a lot more than anybody let on especially in the second half of the season. How many times did he pass the ball on 3rd and short rather than run the ball? He admitted in his radio show on ESPN Milwaukee yesterday he flunked his Pro-Bowl physical saying he had knee and ankle issues but didn't elaborate so he will not go to Honolulu. We gotta improve the O line either by getting our tackles back and a center or adding some O linemen via FA or the draft.

That's a major concern. Has to be a high priority.

[Freak Out]

What a God-Damned idiot you are.

Enough of this idiocy.

[Joemailman]

Evidently Rodgers was hobbled a lot more than anybody let on especially in the second half of the season. How many times did he pass the ball on 3rd and short rather than run the ball? He admitted in his radio show on ESPN Milwaukee yesterday he flunked his Pro-Bowl physical saying he had knee and ankle issues but didn't elaborate so he will not go to Honolulu. We gotta improve the O line either by getting our tackles back and a center or adding some O linemen via FA or the draft.

You always want a better OL, but a lot of the sacks Rodgers takes are his fault. He wants to go downfield instead of dumping the ball off, but he doesn't throw into double coverage, so he holds onto the ball too long sometimes. I do think EDS was an improvement over Saturday as far as limiting pressure up the middle, and they will be getting Bulaga and perhaps Sherrod back. However, unless Rodgers changes his approach, he'll probably continue to be one of the more frequently sacked QB's in the league.