has our window already closed?

[pbmax]

I agree that physically he looks the part. The fact that he only had 764 receiving yards in his college career has me skeptical though.

Sounds like he could be the new fifth TE.

[mraynrand]

... But I like the Packers organization more than I like Driver and I don't think he earned his spot this past year. That is ultimately TT's decision.

you make a good argument, but ultimately it's for the 53rd spot on the roster. I just don't see it being all the critical, unless you think there is some negative symbolism there or something. I don't see it becoming a habit; Stubby and TT seem willing to IR guys and move people up until they get guys who can perform. Maybe you or Patler know of a guy that we passes on either to sign to the PS or sign to the 53 that got the shaft because Driver was there. I suppose that's possible. Who would know? Maybe some Packer players will talk about the lockerroom/leadership aspect of Driver. in any case, it didn't get them a championship, so in that respect it failed.

[red]

One thing TT has shown is that he will keep the weapons stockpiled for Rodgers. I'm the first to admit that the WR depth behind Nelson, Jones, Cobb will be nowhere near where it was this year, but I'm confident TT will pick up another decent WR.

TT has to keep drafting as well as we think he has in the past, even though he's starting to lose some of the other guys that he's put together.

and i say as good as we think he has, because lets be honest, a lot of his draft picks we have no clue about because they can't stay healthy enough to get on the field

its my feeling that we've just blown our best two chances to repeat and its only going to get harder from here on out

[sharpe1027]

you make a good argument, but ultimately it's for the 53rd spot on the roster. I just don't see it being all the critical, unless you think there is some negative symbolism there or something. I don't see it becoming a habit; Stubby and TT seem willing to IR guys and move people up until they get guys who can perform. Maybe you or Patler know of a guy that we passes on either to sign to the PS or sign to the 53 that got the shaft because Driver was there. I suppose that's possible. Who would know? Maybe some Packer players will talk about the lockerroom/leadership aspect of Driver. in any case, it didn't get them a championship, so in that respect it failed.

Yeah, the Driver decision itself likely did not make too much difference. Would having guys like Ross activated sooner made much difference? Probably not. The thing is, we don't know because they kept Driver. Keeping Driver was safe and popular but it had zero upside.

There is a similar decision coming up with guys like Pickett and Woodson. It is not just keeping a young unknown player off the team, but also the cap space they eat up.

[woodbuck27]

As long as we have #12 and #52 we have a chance. All we have to do is accumulate a few more blue chip players and some speed and we should be alright.

Then you'll be picking the 49ers to win the Super Bowl this season with nine (9) Pro Bowlers.

Think 2010 and that Super Bowl.

We still had two decent and very experienced Vet OT's in C. Clifton and M. Tauscher.

We had a solid center. The OL was pretty darn good. GONE !

We had an emerging RB playing very well in James Starks. He cannot seem to stay healthy; and he's so far showing up not that solid every down RB we need to take the pressure off our QB. Think Ray Rice in Baltimore.

We had 'a top of his game', CB Charles 'Ballhawk' Woodson and the same with Nick 'Crusher' Collins at FSGONE ! and Chuck appears GONE!

We had OLman like Desmond Bishop and Eric Walden stepping up. Both may be GONE!

WE saw a fast emerging CB Tramone Williams. His play has fallen off and his finesse game seems lacking.

We had two legitimate Pro Bowl players in Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews. We're now learning the real impact of all that pressure and those sacks on Aaron Rodgers. He's been playing injured since mid December.

Clay Matthews is a concern with his trick hammy.

Where our WR's were emerging in 2010. That core of WR's was arguably the best in the NFL entering th 2012 season. We saw a dramatic fall off due to injury etc. to that same core of WR's as this year progressed.

There is more negative. Look at our DL with regards to BJ Raji (too much playingtime on our DL and in need of 'a big man', to spell him before he burns out) and an aging Ryan Pickett.

Others may add more negatives based on our last Super Bowl season compared to the now.

Ted Thompson has his plate full. He'll work hard to eat it all up.

GO PACK GO !

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bishop is gone?

how?

[King Friday]

When did Lambeau get a roof?

[Brandon494]

... But I like the Packers organization more than I like Driver and I don't think he earned his spot this past year. That is ultimately TT's decision.

True because look how well Gurley balled out for his team this year...oh wait.

[Brandon494]

I mean seriously I feel like half of the posters on this board don't even pay attention to the rest of the NFL out side of the Packers. Rodgers isn't even 30 yet and our window has closed? Give me a @#$%ing break!

[rbaloha1]

As long as #12 is healthy the window remains open.

However over the last 2 years, the window has been lowered.

[Brandon494]

i was worried about that

for about 15 years we said "as long as we have #4 we can win it". well we only won that one with him too. i can see some similarities between that team and this team. both went on a slow decline after the super bowl win

Rodgers > Favre

MM isn't jumping ship like Holmgren

Clay Matthews is still in his prime unlike Reggie White

Also how is going 15-1 going on a slow decline after a SB win? Not to mention we should have been 12-4 this season.

Exactly what similarities do you see again?

[Brandon494]

As long as #12 is healthy the window remains open.

However over the last 2 years, the window has been lowered.

No it hasn't, some of you just set that bar too high thinking we were going to win it every year. Its the NFL, not the NBA.

[Freak Out]

Has Walden been cut yet? Has Slocum been fired? If not this team is fucked.

[MadtownPacker]

This thread is obviously the overreaction of a moron. Yeah season ending losses suck and we got lots to bitch about. But to say the window is closed is dumb shit. TT has to stock the cupboard some but the core is there. This won't be the last coulda woulda shoulda postseason.

[MadtownPacker]

Rodgers > Favre

MM isn't jumping ship like Holmgren

Clay Matthews is still in his prime unlike Reggie White

Also how is going 15-1 going on a slow decline after a SB win? Not to mention we should have been 12-4 this season.

Exactly what similarities do you see again?

That still hasn't been decided.

He might get fired before he gets a chance.

He is great. He is still no Reggie.

You're right, lots of pages left to write.

Like you said, shoulda been 12-4. Thats probably what he meant. Because we are talking about opportunity lost.