THE draft thread (2013 version)

[KYPack]

Boykins was kept as the 6th wide receiver this year and moved ahead of Driver on the depth chart. So now the Packers are four deep at wide out. You don't spend high for a guy that is going to be 5th on the depth chart. If Thompson falls in love with a wr sure I can see him going high, but that is fine, this draft should be about value, not about need.

Nutz for leader.

We've got to go back to TT's board.

Take the best and finest football player as evaluated by our scouts, with each selection.

We could well use and RB, for instance. But if there isn't a good enough RB when it's your pick, get the best man available with that pick.

We did need last draft, it's time to get good players every chance you get.

[mraynrand]

Nutz for leader.

We've got to go back to TT's board.

Take the best and finest football player as evaluated by our scouts, with each selection.

We could well use and RB, for instance. But if there isn't a good enough RB when it's your pick, get the best man available with that pick.

We did need last draft, it's time to get good players every chance you get.

Even if they draft 5 straight TEs, who could argue with this logic?

[denverYooper]

McCarthy spoke pretty glowingly about Finley's post-bye week resurgence at his PC this week. I don't think it will be M3 who pushes Finley out of the door.

He will more likely be this year's KGB. The guy, who in almost any other circumstance, would be released. Actually, maybe we can call him Jermichael Crosby.

There are several players in front of Finley in the axeman's queue. Saturday and Driver are probably done. Woodson may be unless he takes a reasonable pay cut. Jennings will probably go elsewhere to get paid. Grant's probably gone.

It sounds like Finley has done enough to warrant one more year.

The new question for me is Tramon. His position coach was awfully equivocal about his status. He's not guaranteed a starting role next year, according to his coach. If he shows up for camp and gets beat, do they pay him to be a 3rd corner? Do they hope a benching motivates him, a la Shields?

[mraynrand]

The new question for me is Tramon. His position coach was awfully equivocal about his status. He's not guaranteed a starting role next year, according to his coach. If he shows up for camp and gets beat, do they pay him to be a 3rd corner? Do they hope a benching motivates him, a la Shields?

I hope it motivates him, and that House beats him for the starting spot, just because House is that good. I'd love to see a dime package with Shields House Tramon and Hayward.

[Deputy Nutz]

Even if they draft 5 straight TEs, who could argue with this logic?

Now you are just getting carried away

[pbmax]

The double TE formation would make it a lot easier to deal with two safeties. If they stay in base and back. Run.

If they come up, throw. But they need to get Quarless or someone else healthy enough and reliable enough to catch passes.

[Smeefers]

Even if they draft 5 straight TEs, who could argue with this logic?

If you take any draft idea to the extreme, it's going to sound moronic.

[mraynrand]

If you take any draft idea to the extreme, it's going to sound moronic.

indeed

[red]

alright, i'll add more

junior ILB from LSU Kevin Minter

here's what yahoo says about him and the packers

2.) Kevin Minter ILB LSU (Position Rank: 2, Overall Rank: 26)

For a team in the Packers lacking an identity defensively, Kevin Minter would bring one. Pair him with Desmond Bishop and you have one of the toughest, strongest, and most rugged pair of inside linebackers in football. Minter brings the party to offensive players as an attacking middle linebacker who always plays downhill. He's not as athletic as Alec Ogletree or Manti Te'o, but he's a physical presence, an adept blitzer, and a magnet to the football. Minter is stronger, certainly, than both Ogletree or Te'o and is much better in run support filling the hole rather than catching running backs as they come through as Te'o often does.

Once he reads a play, he explodes to the football and is able to stay clean through the hole. Physically, he's stout at the point of attack and has a great spin move to disengage blockers. And if you want a player who will come through in big games, Minter is your guy. Against Florida, he had 20 tackles including 17 solo stops and 2 sacks. Two weeks later in a win over Texas A&M, Minter had 12 tackles, a sack and an interception. And in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, he had 19 tackles and a sack.

With Green Bay looking ready to cut ties with A.J. Hawk and needing some nasty in the middle to stop guys like Matt Forte and Adrian Peterson, Minter would be a perfect fit. There will be some questions about his coverage, as he rarely dropped deep for LSU, and those questions are valid. The Packers got good production out of Brad Jones in passing situations and Minter is certainly an immediate improvement in the run game over any interior linebacker on the active roster by season's end.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/green-bay-packers-offseason-outlook-5-players-watch-194500927--nfl.html

here's a video of his game against florida this year. all his plays, not just the highlights

[Guiness]

alright, i'll add more

junior ILB from LSU Kevin Minter

here's what yahoo says about him and the packers


here's a video of his game against florida this year. all his plays, not just the highlights

Thanks for the find Red. I've seen his name mentioned to the Packers as well.

The guy reminds me of Barnett. Good sideline to sideline speed. I also saw some stuff I didn't like in that video...failing to wrap when tackling, getting sucked inside. His two sacks weren't impressive - both times left unblocked, and untouched all the way to the QB.

Not impressed.

[swede]

Thanks for the find Red. I've seen his name mentioned to the Packers as well.

The guy reminds me of Barnett. Good sideline to sideline speed. I also saw some stuff I didn't like in that video...failing to wrap when tackling, getting sucked inside. His two sacks weren't impressive - both times left unblocked, and untouched all the way to the QB.

Not impressed.

I rather had the same impressions, Guiness.

[red]

i'm with you guys. saw some things there i liked and a lot i didn't

[packrulz]

I'm hoping the Pack can scrape up the bucks for Woodson, but the defense is the weakest link, and I don't blame Capers, I think it's a lack of playmakers besides Clay, Raji, and Woodson. I'm still not very confident in our CB's, Tramon Williams didn't have a good year, and the rest improved but got burned a few times. I want a LB that can cover a TE.

[Smeefers]

If our CB's only get burned a few times, I think they're fine. It's when they're getting slashed and gashed every week, like the 2011 season where we have problems. The last place I want us to go in the draft is CB. I wouldn't mind a new safety though, even though Mcmuffin and Jennings did a fine stand in job, There was still a lot to be desired there. Perhaps they just need to grow, they're both young guys. Can't expect superstars right out of college. If I remember, Collins sucked his first couple years too.

As for LB, I think there's only one safe guy on our team, but unfortunately, the clay maker gets hurt for a handfull of games every year, so we definitely have to get deeper there. I'd be willing to give the guys we have here time, this was our most decimated part of the team in the injury department. Still, even though I think he's serviceable, Hawk is aging and we need to think about getting a replacement for him. I just hope Bishop comes back and plays like he used to.

On the DL, we've been adding talent to that spot for years now, spending tons of high draft picks there. Still, it seems a weak point for us. We loose at the point of attack time and time again. Maybe pickett is getting too old. I see a lot of good from him, but maybe I'm looking past the bad because of it. Wilson may be good against the run, but you can't have one trick ponies out there as starters. Bah. You could always use a new guy on the DL. Every year.

The OL is supposedly good, but I don't buy it. I've said it before, I wouldn't mind if they spent a first round pick here every single year. Every one of those guys should be fighting for their job. I think Newhouse is a band aid. I think EDS is a sieve in the middle of the line. Bulaga is okay, only time will tell if he turns out to be better than average. Everyone thinks Sitton is great, but I'm not sold on that. I suppose one guy can't fix the whole line though. Lang is as good as he's going to get, and that level is "ehh, he's okay." 47 sacks. 1700 rushing yards (250 of that by Rodgers). That's what I see when I see our OL. Not good enough.

WR? We're fine. We might pick someone up, but it's nowhere near a need, even with GJ and DD on their way out. Their heirs are apparent.

If we got a TE, I'd be fine with it. I'm tired of waiting on Jermicheal. The dude could end up being really good. He's only 25 years old. He's got a LOT of years left in him. The thing is, I don't see our offense utilizing a tight end like we did back when Favre was running the show. For Favre, the TE was a safety valve. They were always heavily used in the offense. I don't know the X's and O's, but it seems to me that they don't use the TE as much with Rodgers. His valve is usually a RB or some short curl route. I don't know, maybe I'm blowing smoke here, but I just don't think the position warrants that much attention when we have 73 tight ends on our team. I'm not scared if we drop Finely and I don't think he's someone who needs a replacement. He's a luxury.

At running back, well, I'd like to see us grab someone, but everywhere I go, people are saying that there's no one worth a damn out there. I'd go bruiser back if I had a say in the draft process. I wouldn't care if he could block or catch, I'd just like to get a guy who can smash through a hole the size of a quarter and maybe run through a tackle or two every once in a while. Everyone we have on the roster is filler as far as I'm concerned. What I wouldn't give for a back who could actually stay healthy.

As for QB, we need an immediate replacement.... Okay okay, but I wouldn't drafting a guy late and seeing what McCarthy thinks of him. Always gotta plan for the worst.

So, If it's me drafting, I'm looking for OL, DL and RB as my team needs - guys that I'd seriously consider moving up to grab, but virtually every other position is open if a BPA drops into my lap.

[Pugger]

For my two cents, I would cut/trade(to much $$, so wont happen) Finley, use some of that money to resign Jennings. Then draft either Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame or Zach Ertz TE Stanford. If the draft falls right, we maybe even able to trade back to high 2nd round and get another pick later in the draft.

LB's in this draft are said to be a weaker class outside of that one OLB whose name I cant think of right now. I am done with Hawk as well. But maybe the trio of Bishop-Smith-Manning can work out to two "better" starting ILB....heck through Jones in there to as a backup.

I dont see McMillian working out to be much more than Bigby. He can give you that one big hit, but is just horrible in coverage.....and when your other S isnt much better in coverage, it makes it look just that worse.

We have more pressing needs than TE. I do agree we could use more speed at LBer and another safety. It would be great to get a D lineman that demands double teaming too.