2010 Super Bowl team - half gone

[mraynrand]

"Parking lots empty each day at 5:30".

goddamn slackers

[Joemailman]

Its time to blow-up the roster Seahawk style.

Last season the Seahawks turnover was 75 per cent. Packers need an ovehaul albeit not at 75 per cent.

Make up your mind. Do we need to blow up the roster like the Seahawks or not? I say not. The Seahawks aren't bad, but they're the team that couldn't beat Atlanta in the playoffs. I don't think they've accomplished anything that would make them the team that everybody else should be trying to imitate.

[Freak Out]

I think the Packers need a higher intake of Adderall.

There are obviously some major upgrades needed at certain positions....but is it really time to blow up the team? Hell no. Well.....maybe the defense.

[Joemailman]

Packers defense needs 4 things:

A top-notch Safety from the draft
An upgrade from Hawk
Bishop back
Nick Perry back

They'd be a damn good defense if those things happened.

[rbaloha1]

Make up your mind. Do we need to blow up the roster like the Seahawks or not? I say not. The Seahawks aren't bad, but they're the team that couldn't beat Atlanta in the playoffs. I don't think they've accomplished anything that would make them the team that everybody else should be trying to imitate.

Who is closer to the super bowl with a better roster -- imo the seahawks.

Why are the Seahawks having big success in a short period of time?

[rbaloha1]

Packers defense needs 4 things:

A top-notch Safety from the draft
An upgrade from Hawk
Bishop back
Nick Perry back

They'd be a damn good defense if those things happened.

That is a good start but by no means the end.

[Freak Out]

Who is closer to the super bowl with a better roster -- imo the seahawks.

Why are the Seahawks having big success in a short period of time?

Not. The Packers were a BS call away from beating them soundly in the toughest environment for a road team in the NFL.

[smuggler]

We had a ton of guys on IR, so it'd be more interesting to see what the numbers are like at the start of next season.

[rbaloha1]

Not. The Packers were a BS call away from beating them soundly in the toughest environment for a road team in the NFL.

Referring to end of the season not early in the season.

How were Ravens early in the year?

[hoosier]

Referring to end of the season not early in the season.

How were Ravens early in the year?

If you judge a team on how it finishes the year, then 4 times out of 5 you are going to be disappointed. If you decide to blow the team up every time it finishes on a bad note, you will just be adding lack of continuity to its list of problems. Look at how the Packers have done over the past five years since AR has been the QB. And then compare to Seattle. Chances are, next year Seattle will be reverting to their usual 8-8. Teams will figure out ways to stop Wilson, they will get their share of injuries, they won't get any gifts from replacement refs, and so on. Comparing Green Bay to Seattle based on one half a season is not very illuminating.

[rbaloha1]

If you judge a team on how it finishes the year, then 4 times out of 5 you are going to be disappointed. If you decide to blow the team up every time it finishes on a bad note, you will just be adding lack of continuity to its list of problems. Look at how the Packers have done over the past five years since AR has been the QB. And then compare to Seattle. Chances are, next year Seattle will be reverting to their usual 8-8. Teams will figure out ways to stop Wilson, they will get their share of injuries, they won't get any gifts from replacement refs, and so on. Comparing Green Bay to Seattle based on one half a season is not very illuminating.

The point is the trend of the Seahawks since Pete Carroll and TT's protege took over. Not judging it on 1/2 season or an early game

The Seahawks are trending up with a complete team unlike the Packers.

R U calling the Seahwks drafting, acquiring of free agents and coaching a fluke?

[rbaloha1]

If you judge a team on how it finishes the year, then 4 times out of 5 you are going to be disappointed. If you decide to blow the team up every time it finishes on a bad note, you will just be adding lack of continuity to its list of problems. Look at how the Packers have done over the past five years since AR has been the QB. And then compare to Seattle. Chances are, next year Seattle will be reverting to their usual 8-8. Teams will figure out ways to stop Wilson, they will get their share of injuries, they won't get any gifts from replacement refs, and so on. Comparing Green Bay to Seattle based on one half a season is not very illuminating.

Dude using the Seahawks as an example is only releveant in the Carroll era not the Holgrem era.

Your myopic analysis is not very illuminating.

[RashanGary]

Just for perspective. . . . In 2010, over 20% of the players who started the team on the 53 man roster, did not finish the year on the 53 man roster. . . Kinda crazy how fast things change in the NFL.

[Guiness]

Dude using the Seahawks as an example is only releveant in the Carroll era not the Holgrem era.

Your myopic analysis is not very illuminating.

I agree with what I think he's saying - the Pack has a good history of being competitive year over year. Seattle didn't make the playoffs in 2011, and the 'up and coming' team of 2011, the Lions, fell back to their usual futility. Chances are Seattle will as well.

For interest's sake, I ran through the Packer's 2010 roster to see who's not with the team now. Quite a list, 33 names, but honestly, not a lot of significant and/or unexpected names. Clifton and Tauscher are listed, as is Barnett. Cullen Jenkins is no longer with the team. Add Nick Collins and those are all that would be listed as significant players. Of those, only one got away as an FA, one was released. The others retired/stopped playing. I think this shows the extent to which the Pack is able to hold on to its core.

10 Matt Flynn
35 Korey Hall FB
32 Brandon Jackson
45 Quinn Johnson FB
23 Dimitri Nance
16 Brett Swain
86 Donald Lee
76 Chad Clifton T
73 Daryn Colledge G/T
67 Nick McDonald G/C
72 Jason Spitz C/G
63 Scott Wells C
95 Howard Green NT
77 Cullen Jenkins DE
94 Jarius Wynn DE
53 Diyral Briggs OLB
57 Matt Wilhelm ILB
20 Atari Bigby SS
36 Nick Collins FS
40 Josh Gordy CB
22 Pat Lee CB
26 Charlie Peprah SS
28 Brandon Underwood CB

56 Nick Barnett ILB
-- Josh Bell CB
54 Brandon Chillar ILB (IR) Injury icon 2.svg
91 Justin Harrell DE (IR) Injury icon 2.svg
41 Spencer Havner TE (IR) Injury icon 2.svg
97 Johnny Jolly DE (Susp.)
29 Derrick Martin FS (IR) Injury icon 2.svg
51 Brady Poppinga OLB (IR) Injury icon 2.svg
27 Anthony Smith FS (IR) Injury icon 2.svg
65 Mark Tauscher OT (IR) Injury icon 2.svg

[ThunderDan]

The point is the trend of the Seahawks since Pete Carroll and TT's protege took over. Not judging it on 1/2 season or an early game

The Seahawks are trending up with a complete team unlike the Packers.

R U calling the Seahwks drafting, acquiring of free agents and coaching a fluke?

And what did TT do when he came to GB? He cleaned house.

Now TT has the type of players he wants on his roster. He isn't going to blow up a team that has gone 41-14 in the last 3 years and won the Super Bowl once.

Does the roster need some changes? Yes. It certainly doesn't need to be dismantled.