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  • #16
    Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
    Ya don't say.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Albert Haynesworth
      You mean Ryan Pickett

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
        What about Charles Woodson?
        what about him?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          what about him?
          figure it out for yourself.

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          • #20
            This is getting deep.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Albert Haynesworth
              Joe Johnson

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              • #22
                i think that takes into account money that wasn't used the season before that got rolled over into this year
                It was my understanding that the salary cap worked that way. Don't know the specifics, but I'd think there was some kind of Daniel Snyder clause where a limit existed to prevent an owner from going cheap on his roster for several years and then going absolutely bonkers for one year to land every good free agent.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                  This is getting deep.
                  well in fairness Pickett and Woodson have worked out pretty good. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    well in fairness Pickett and Woodson have worked out pretty good. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                      It was my understanding that the salary cap worked that way. Don't know the specifics, but I'd think there was some kind of Daniel Snyder clause where a limit existed to prevent an owner from going cheap on his roster for several years and then going absolutely bonkers for one year to land every good free agent.
                      There is/was a salary floor, a cap number that must be carried by a team. The new CBA introduced the idea of a cash minimum, where first the League and then the individual teams needed to spend X on player contracts in a given season. I don't remember if the new cash minimum supplemented the old cap floor or replaced it.

                      But teams can now move salary cap space into the next year by simply notifying the League office. Not sure if there is a maximum on that.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        There is/was a salary floor, a cap number that must be carried by a team. The new CBA introduced the idea of a cash minimum, where first the League and then the individual teams needed to spend X on player contracts in a given season. I don't remember if the new cash minimum supplemented the old cap floor or replaced it.

                        But teams can now move salary cap space into the next year by simply notifying the League office. Not sure if there is a maximum on that.
                        I don't remember there being mention of a maximum carry-over. The cap 'floor' comes back this fall, set at 89% of the cap.

                        The league-wide minimum was set to 99% of the total cap, with shortfalls going "directly to the players." I'm not sure what that means...does it go to the NFLPA to be distributed? Under the old system (and soon to be new system) shortfalls were distributed to players on that team. How does it work when the accounting is on a league wide basis? I'd be interested to know more about that given that I doubt the league made that number. 99% of $120million means just over 1 million left over, and most teams like to leave that much wiggle room in case they have to sign players during the year.
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                        • #27
                          Those visualizations would be cooler if each blob was for the actual player that would be standing on it instead of spread across the position category.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            There is/was a salary floor, a cap number that must be carried by a team. The new CBA introduced the idea of a cash minimum, where first the League and then the individual teams needed to spend X on player contracts in a given season. I don't remember if the new cash minimum supplemented the old cap floor or replaced it.

                            But teams can now move salary cap space into the next year by simply notifying the League office. Not sure if there is a maximum on that.
                            http://www.askthecommish.com/SalaryCap/faq.aspx

                            In terms of minimum salary for each team, the salary floor is 89% of the cap. However, that does not start until 2013. Hence, there is in essence no salary floor in 2011 or 2012. (Note this point, as there is plenty of misinformation about this running rampant in the press!)

                            Amount of carryover and cap space availability for 2013:

                            http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012...t-cap-strategy

                            2013 Cap Space
                            Team Carryover Total space
                            Arizona $3.6M -$723,000
                            Atlanta $307,000 $4.9M
                            Baltimore $1.2M $15.7M
                            Buffalo $9.8M $20.6M
                            Carolina $3.6M -$11.8M
                            Chicago $3.2M $13.3M
                            Cincinnati $8.5M $55.1M
                            Cleveland $14.3M $48.9M
                            Dallas $2.3M -$18.2M
                            Denver $11.5M $18.5M
                            Detroit $486,000 -$1.1M
                            Green Bay $7M $7.1M
                            Houston $2.4M $12.9M
                            Indianapolis $3.5M $46M
                            Jacksonville $19.5M $22.1M
                            Kansas City $14M $16.1M
                            Miami $5.3M $35.8M
                            Minnesota $8M $16.1M
                            New England $5.6M $18.6M
                            New Orleans $2.7M -$14.7M
                            NY Giants $1M -$4.7M
                            NY Jets $3.4M -$19.4M
                            Oakland $4.5M -$4.5M
                            Philadelphia $23M $5.2M
                            Pittsburgh $758,000 -$10.8M
                            San Diego $995,000 $8.7M
                            San Fran $859,000 $3.9M
                            Seattle $13.2M $18.6M
                            St. Louis $247,000 $1.8M
                            Tampa Bay $8.5M $31.3M
                            Tennessee $12.8M $19.4M
                            Washington $4.2M -$4M

                            The Packer number does not reflect the retirement of jeff Saturday, which I believe clears up 3.8 million.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post

                              [snip...]

                              Amount of carryover and cap space availability for 2013:
                              Cool list, tx. Surprised to see Philly's huge carryover number, I thought they'd still be in hell after the 'dream team' mess. Considering what Vick and alphabet make, is it any wonder the team was in the dumps this year? The average salary after discounting those two guys couldn't have been much above the minimum! Their number next year is low though, I wonder what hits their cap.

                              I wonder how that carryover affects the league-wide miminum? The average carryover is WAY over $1million, so the league should have to fork over a significant amount of money to the players.
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                              • #30
                                Looks like Cincinnati (55.1M under cap), Cleveland (48.9 million), and Indianapolis (46 million) will either be active in free agency, or they'll be renegotiating some contracts.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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