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So are we getting a third for Matt Flynn ?Originally posted by pbmax View PostYou get a third with a compensatory pick if he signs a big deal. If he doesn't, then he becomes more likely to resign with the Packers. Why shed players to get the same pick?
Ditto for Wells ?
Both signed big deals and we won't garner a third for neither.
Plus, a third next year....at the "END" of the round.......isn't nearly equal to a third this yearTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by Patler View PostTagging Flynn would have been ridiculous, because if stuck with him there would be little to no return on the money. That was a huge risk.
With Jennings, a tag and failure to trade will still bring great benefit to the Packers, a receiver as good as or better than any they will have without him (assuming he stays healthy). There will be value received from the money spent.
I doubt that a tag and trade will bring much more than what the Packer would get for him as a FA lost. The biggest benefit is that a trade might bring a third round pick in 2013, whereas FA compensation for him will not be until 2014. An extra pick this year, with the team having playoff chances, might be quite valuable.
Long and short - I doubt they will either sign him or tag him. He will simply leave in free agency.
Remember is we let him walk we get a third at the very end of the round as well. They note in trading scenarios one should expect a pick one year later to be worth around a round less. So my view is that end of the round third is about equal to a fourth or fifth rounder this year.
There are desperate teams that need WR help, such as the Rams. Getting a third from the Raiders or Rams is WAY more valuable than an end of the round pick we'd get a year later
Or..........Keep Him and go win a Super Bowl.
IMO...........very stupid to just let him walk instead of work the systemTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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No...sorry........I was just pointing out a team that probably has the worst set of WR's in the NFL.Originally posted by pbmax View PostNobody well known to Packers in the Rams front office unless I am forgetting somebody.
When the NFL Network was throwing out teams that would be interested in GJ the Rams came up firstTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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One will be offset by the signing of Saturday.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostSo are we getting a third for Matt Flynn ?
Ditto for Wells ?
Both signed big deals and we won't garner a third for neither.
Plus, a third next year....at the "END" of the round.......isn't nearly equal to a third this year
It will be interesting to see what the Packers get in view of Flynn's lack of playing time. Supposedly, a player who is a starter, then loses time due to injury is not discounted, so Well's lack of playing time shouldn't hurt.
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I just don't think they will want to tie up the cap dollars in Jennings even if the plan is to trade him.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostRemember is we let him walk we get a third at the very end of the round as well. They note in trading scenarios one should expect a pick one year later to be worth around a round less. So my view is that end of the round third is about equal to a fourth or fifth rounder this year.
There are desperate teams that need WR help, such as the Rams. Getting a third from the Raiders or Rams is WAY more valuable than an end of the round pick we'd get a year later
Or..........Keep Him and go win a Super Bowl.
IMO...........very stupid to just let him walk instead of work the system
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Not for Flynn. Deal wasn't big enough and he hasn't played. Wells played and he might fetch a better pick.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostSo are we getting a third for Matt Flynn ?
Ditto for Wells ?
Both signed big deals and we won't garner a third for neither.
Plus, a third next year....at the "END" of the round.......isn't nearly equal to a third this yearBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Gotcha.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostNo...sorry........I was just pointing out a team that probably has the worst set of WR's in the NFL.
When the NFL Network was throwing out teams that would be interested in GJ the Rams came up firstBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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You've made part of my point for me.Originally posted by pbmax View PostNot for Flynn. Deal wasn't big enough and he hasn't played. Wells played and he might fetch a better pick.
Flynn signed a three year deal for around 27 million if I recall. That would have brought a third if only he played all year. That's a pretty big money deal.
But we'll get next to nothing because he was injured and then never returned....that......and Russell Wilson was the second best QB in Wisconsin when Flynn was Rodgers Backup
If Jennings gets hurt badly.....same gig could happen
Tag him and get what you can. I don't want what is pretty much equal to a low 4th or high 5th..........best case.......that's what we get if we let him walk w/o making the effort.
Corey Williams himTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Flynn: Contract:3 yr(s) / $19,500,000Originally posted by Bretsky View PostYou've made part of my point for me.
Flynn signed a three year deal for around 27 million if I recall. That would have brought a third if only he played all year. That's a pretty big money deal.
But we'll get next to nothing because he was injured and then never returned....that......and Russell Wilson was the second best QB in Wisconsin when Flynn was Rodgers Backup
If Jennings gets hurt badly.....same gig could happen
Tag him and get what you can. I don't want what is pretty much equal to a low 4th or high 5th..........best case.......that's what we get if we let him walk w/o making the effort.
Corey Williams him
Wasn't going to be a third for that deal. Jennings will either get more or come back at the Packers price.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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If you think Thompson is going to tag him you have got to kidding or dreaming. He's done and gone, and I have no problem with it.he was our 4th best receiver this year even when he was healthy. His prime was our super bowl year, and he's declining fast."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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Jordy grew up on a farm. When he is done playing a boy's game for a few million dollars his dad expects him to get right back to work. That shit isn't going to shovel itself.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostAccording to Josh Sitton Jordy left too much $ on the table.
Does Jordy have parasites as well?[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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