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  • #46
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    I'm starting to wonder how confident they are in Bishop's recovery. I assume they are not counting on Smith for the start of the season, and I get the feeling they aren't counting on Bishop either.
    There have been a couple reports that its no sure thing even at this stage of medical care. Hate to have him and Sherrod so iffy. And that status may last until camp.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
      I'd bet there's a good chance they think this + Jones can play inside or outside need be and is a core ST'er.
      T2 does do this occasionally, where he will let a player he likes and wants back go out and shop himself and then match the offer. Its all unofficial in this case, but Bush basically did the same thing. I wonder if he just says to the player, if you can prove it, I will pay it?
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        There have been a couple reports that its no sure thing even at this stage of medical care. Hate to have him and Sherrod so iffy. And that status may last until camp.
        I haven't heard a thing on DJ Smith either. You've got your fingers in the know PB. What's the scoop? And where do you go to find out this stuff?
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
          I haven't heard a thing on DJ Smith either. You've got your fingers in the know PB. What's the scoop? And where do you go to find out this stuff?
          If I have read anything about DJ, I have forgotten it. Which I would actually take as good news at this point. Most of the medical stuff I get from here, JSO and GBPG. Twitter helps when I miss something especially now that there are article limits at both papers websites.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            Brad Jones base salaries:

            Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
            Per @NFLPLAYERS website, Brad Jones' base salaries are $1M in 2013, $2.5M in '14 and $3.5M in '15. @seankjensen reported $3M signing bonus.

            He is 10th in average salary, but unless my math skills have deserted me, he can be cut after one year with little to no hit.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Brad Jones base salaries:

              Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
              Per @NFLPLAYERS website, Brad Jones' base salaries are $1M in 2013, $2.5M in '14 and $3.5M in '15. @seankjensen reported $3M signing bonus.

              He is 10th in average salary, but unless my math skills have deserted me, he can be cut after one year with little to no hit.
              That seems to be the way to handle the Jones-types this offseason.
              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Brad Jones base salaries:

                Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
                Per @NFLPLAYERS website, Brad Jones' base salaries are $1M in 2013, $2.5M in '14 and $3.5M in '15. @seankjensen reported $3M signing bonus.

                He is 10th in average salary, but unless my math skills have deserted me, he can be cut after one year with little to no hit.
                It would still be a $2M hit if he is cut after 1 year. Not huge, but not a nothing either.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                  It would still be a $2M hit if he is cut after 1 year. Not huge, but not a nothing either.
                  Yes, but overall savings of $500,000 to cap. Its not ideal obviously, but it provides a viable out should something happen. Plus, you can split the hit between 14 and 15 now at any time once the new league year starts. So its a million dead money each year should they choose that option. Not a whole lot of risk.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                    Per Rotoworld:

                    3/21/2013: Signed a three-year, $11.75 million contract. Includes a $3 million signing bonus.

                    Waaaayyyyyyyyy more than I thought he'd be.
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Brad Jones base salaries:

                    Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2h
                    Per @NFLPLAYERS website, Brad Jones' base salaries are $1M in 2013, $2.5M in '14 and $3.5M in '15. @seankjensen reported $3M signing bonus.

                    He is 10th in average salary, but unless my math skills have deserted me, he can be cut after one year with little to no hit.
                    There must be another bonus of some sort, or the original report of $11.75M was a bit high. Salaries + signing bonus come up to $10M.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Yes, but overall savings of $500,000 to cap. Its not ideal obviously, but it provides a viable out should something happen. Plus, you can split the hit between 14 and 15 now at any time once the new league year starts. So its a million dead money each year should they choose that option. Not a whole lot of risk.
                      It's even more than that, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

                      2014 cap to keep him = $2.5M salary + $1M prorated signing bonus, for a total cap hit of $3.5.
                      2014 cap to release him is, at worst, the remaining $2M signing bonus.

                      They can cut him, pay a rookie and his dead money cap amount, and still save cap space compared to keeping him.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        There must be another bonus of some sort, or the original report of $11.75M was a bit high. Salaries + signing bonus come up to $10M.
                        The deal includes a $300,000 roster bonus and a $200,000 workout bonus each year. JSO is calling it an $11.25 million deal which I thing adds up.
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                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          The deal includes a $300,000 roster bonus and a $200,000 workout bonus each year. JSO is calling it an $11.25 million deal which I thing adds up.

                          Crap contract for a JAG. We could have done way better for our money. The well is drying up and deals will be had after the draft. Good to see we got the J Bush of LB's locked up.
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                          • #58
                            3 years, near $12million. Damn close to the $/year Walden got. That doesn't seem like a coincidence, TT watched the market and gave Jones a market level deal.
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                            • #59
                              I think Jones' contract reflects some concern over whether Bishop and/or D.J. Williams will be ready to start the season. He's going to be paid starter money. The Packers probably see a combination of Moses/Perry as preferable to Walden, so they were not willing to offer him a similar contract.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                Crap contract for a JAG. We could have done way better for our money. The well is drying up and deals will be had after the draft. Good to see we got the J Bush of LB's locked up.
                                So who should have been signed instead of Jones?

                                JB of LB's is actually a compliment. I don't like JB on the field with the D but he's a damn fine STer.

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