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Seriously, I'm no GM, but I think it's pretty safe to say if Steven Jackson wants to come here and won't need to get paid above and beyond just to move to GB, he's a no brainer for our offense.
Runs with vision, great in zone runs, catches the ball, blocks. . . . My god, he's the perfect fit to get us over the hump. What's better, Finley who can threaten the middle or Jackson who is guaranteed to threaten the middle of the defense.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Yeah. One of the best, if not the best RB on the free agent market would be perfect for our team. Especially if he doesn't want any money.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostSeriously, I'm no GM, but I think it's pretty safe to say if Steven Jackson wants to come here and won't need to get paid above and beyond just to move to GB, he's a no brainer for our offense.
Runs with vision, great in zone runs, catches the ball, blocks. . . . My god, he's the perfect fit to get us over the hump. What's better, Finley who can threaten the middle or Jackson who is guaranteed to threaten the middle of the defense.
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Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortuneOriginally posted by Pugger View PostThat's the rub. We don't know what kind of money it will take to sign him. I suspect he'll end up in Atlanta.
or to write posts about it on Packerrats.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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Your idea is close to perfect 'for the now' if you love Zach Ertz - TE Stanford as a first round pick;realizing that Tyler Eifert - TE ND is rocketing up draft boards. TT would have to offer Stephen Jackson $5-6 million$ for say 3 years but between FA and this draft he's option a) 'for now'.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostSeriously, I'm no GM, but I think it's pretty safe to say if Steven Jackson wants to come here and won't need to get paid above and beyond just to move to GB, he's a no brainer for our offense.
Runs with vision, great in zone runs, catches the ball, blocks. . . . My god, he's the perfect fit to get us over the hump. What's better, Finley who can threaten the middle or Jackson who is guaranteed to threaten the middle of the defense.
Option b) Eddie Lacy (youth and strength) and you ride with ** Jermichael Finley. I believe there's something new out there, or a rumour, that ** he might listen to a reduced contract.
We still have major needs ie at safety, DL, OL, LB and WR.
Back to the Stephen Jackson option:
We have to hope we see an improvement in the teams overall health and a solution for our OL but at least with Stephen Jackson our OL would have another focus and Stephen Jackson can be relied upon to catch the ball.
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I won't dream or get my hopes high on Stephen Jackson as our NO. 1 RB. I feel he'll get decent offers in Atlanta or Pittsburg with Denver, New York (GIANTS) and New England other possible landing spots. Maybe he'll accept less money and the RAMS terms and remain in St. Louis.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View PostYour idea is close to perfect 'for the now' if you love Zach Ertz - TE Stanford as a first round pick;realizing that Tyler Eifert - TE ND is rocketing up draft boards. TT would have to offer Stephen Jackson $5-6 million$ for say 3 years but between FA and this draft he's option a) 'for now'.
Option b) Eddie Lacy (youth and strength) and you ride with ** Jermichael Finley. I believe there's something new out there, or a rumour, that ** he might listen to a reduced contract.
We still have major needs ie at safety, DL, OL, LB and WR.
Back to the Stephen Jackson option:
We have to hope we see an improvement in the teams overall health and a solution for our OL but at least with Stephen Jackson our OL would have another focus and Stephen Jackson can be relied upon to catch the ball.
GO PACK GO !
As an exercise:
If you looked at the prospect of using Jermichael Finley CAP space to use to bring him to us or in another sense like 'a trade'. Would you make that trade? Jermichael Finley for Stephen Jackson. Is that an exciting prospect... say for about $6 Million$ per season for two seasons?
A solid RB that is reliable and in excellent health inspite of his mileage. A RB that can receive the ball as well. A new focus of challenge for our OL.
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It seems more real today that 'in fact' Tony Gonzalez will return to the Falcons for one more season with certain stipulations based on remuneration and limited off season activities.Originally posted by Pugger View PostThat's the rub. We don't know what kind of money it will take to sign him. I suspect he'll end up in Atlanta.
A team source ... “If we offer him the money, he’ll most likely be back for one more. He’ll most likely be looking to miss training camp, though.”
The Atlanta Falcons can probably get tight end Tony Gonzalez to return if they promise him two things: more money and less offseason work.
That being the case, takes pressure off the TE position in Atlanta and places more focus on the RB position; the reality that the Atlanta Falcons is Stephen Jackson's new destination.Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-10-2013, 01:33 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Gonzalez tells Falcons he’s returning.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View PostIt seems more real today that 'in fact' Tony Gonzalez will return to the Falcons for one more season with certain stipulations based on remuneration and limited off season activities.
A team source ... “If we offer him the money, he’ll most likely be back for one more. He’ll most likely be looking to miss training camp, though.”
The Atlanta Falcons can probably get tight end Tony Gonzalez to return if they promise him two things: more money and less offseason work.
That being the case, takes pressure off the TE position in Atlanta and places more focus on the RB position; the reality that the Atlanta Falcons is Stephen Jackson's new destination.
Posted by Mike Florio on March 12, 2013, 12:51 PM EDT
“After discussing it with my family and really, truly struggling with this decision, I informed the Falcons that I would like to return for one more shot,” Gonzalez told Glazer. “Considering how this season ended, I wanted to give it another run with Matt [Ryan], Smitty [head coach Mike Smith] and the guys we have in there. It was the first time I had won a playoff game and hopefully coming back once more we can take it one step further.” Tony Gonzalez
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With that concern at the TE position out of the way the Falcons can now focus attention on their RB position; very possibly getting Stephen Jackson to their fair city.
There's a big part of me that has always hoped that one day Stephen Jackson would be in the Packers backfield. I believe he would be a valuable addition and add a special component to the Packer offense.Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-12-2013, 12:23 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Woody, I realize the threads all wander off course from time to time, but if you are going to aggregate the aggregate sites here, it would be kind of you to stick to a specific plan or rationale. At least it would be for me.
There is a thread or two about all free agents and one about speculation about free agents. I think Gonzalez returning belongs in there (or its own thread), not in the "Packers Need a Three Down Back" thread.
We appreciate your hard work, but its tough to keep up with cross posted (or twice posted) stuff. When folks visit to find something specific, the volume can make it hard to locate.
EDITED FOR SPECIFICITY: As was made clear last time, many posters enjoy coming here to find out all the latest FA news and your posts were quite valuable to them. I think it will be easier to keep up on it all if those posts followed a similar train of thought in thread placement.
Thanks again.Last edited by pbmax; 03-12-2013, 12:23 PM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I'll explain why I located this information on Tony Gonzalez's decision not to retire in this thread. I hope this will then make better sense to you.Originally posted by pbmax View PostWoody, I realize the threads all wander off course from time to time, but if you are going to aggregate the aggregate sites here, it would be kind of you to stick to a specific plan or rationale. At least it would be for me.
There is a thread or two about all free agents and one about speculation about free agents. I think Gonzalez returning belongs in there (or its own thread), not in the "Packers Need a Three Down Back" thread.
We appreciate your hard work, but its tough to keep up with cross posted (or twice posted) stuff. When folks visit to find something specific, the volume can make it hard to locate.
EDITED FOR SPECIFICITY: As was made clear last time, many posters enjoy coming here to find out all the latest FA news and your posts were quite valuable to them. I think it will be easier to keep up on it all if those posts followed a similar train of thought in thread placement.
Thanks again.
a) I do not consider the latest on Tony Gonzalez as a rumor but rather a conclusion. Thus it didn't go into the ... pre-free agency rumors? Speculation-Explanation thread.
b) I placed that report here in terms of how his decision may impact our teams future in terms of the RB position. If I did so in error my penchant for analysis is my noose.
What I've been looking at is the possibility that Stephen Jackson may consider the Packers and the Falcons among other legitimate contenders for his new contract. It's been strongly rumored that Atlanta will go after him. It seems to me that's all the more likely, now that Tony Gonzalez is reportedly returning to the Falcons for another season. With that position concern out of the way. The Atlanta Falcons can focus on their needs at RB. Pay what's necessary to get Stephen Jackson and remove that option from the Packers.
In terms of reporting FA moves.
You need not be concerned about my efforts to do so. Specifically, trying to keep the forum up to date as I attempted to last year. I received over the top too much flack for my attempts to ensure that the membership was informed. Given the burden of trying to do a good job in terms of the time it takes. Weighed against all I learn and my position to offer my time. It simply isn't worth the pain pbmax.
It isn't worth the flack that you or Mad or other leaders on this forum will have to endure.
Sadly, there are members here that will ensure their input for 'a thankless job'. At the same time I certainly appreciate those members that see and acknowledge a decent effort.Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-12-2013, 01:20 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Woody, actually, the last time we went through this, I was one of those asking you for less. I read those other sites, so seeing all the data here again, to me, is redundant. But what was clear after everyone began to register their thoughts, is that many appreciated the info being here. So I would not be worried about posting it. Or at least, you won't hear complaints from me.Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post...
What I've been looking at is the possibility that Stephen Jackson may consider the Packers and the Falcons among other legitimate contenders for his new contract. It's been strongly rumored that Atlanta will go after him. It seems to me that's all the more likely, now that Tony Gonzalez is reportedly returning to the Falcons for another season. With that position concern out of the way. The Atlanta Falcons can focus on their needs at RB. Pay what's necessary to get Stephen Jackson and remove that option from the Packers....
In terms of reporting FA moves.
You need not be concerned about my efforts to do so. Specifically, trying to keep the forum up to date as I attempted to last year. I received over the top too much flack for my attempts to ensure that the membership was informed. Given the burden of trying to do a good job in terms of the time it takes. Weighed against all I learn and my position to offer my time. It simply isn't worth the pain pbmax...
However, what was clear is that cross or double posting can lead to some frustration. If you can avoid that, I think all will be fine.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Last season we were watching alot during the FA period. Sometimes and I agree cross referencing (dbl posting between threads) became an issue. We had some high profile FA watch's going on ie Peyton Manning (and that thread) and the destination of one of our own, Matt Flynn (and that thread) etc.Originally posted by pbmax View PostWoody, actually, the last time we went through this, I was one of those asking you for less. I read those other sites, so seeing all the data here again, to me, is redundant. But what was clear after everyone began to register their thoughts, is that many appreciated the info being here. So I would not be worried about posting it. Or at least, you won't hear complaints from me.
However, what was clear is that cross or double posting can lead to some frustration. If you can avoid that, I think all will be fine.
I over commited myself. I paid the price of trying to be consistent.
I want to make all happy. I'm not here to piss anyone off.
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I'll start an 'Official Free Agency Thread' that we all can do our best to keep updated and try to keep everyone as happy as possible.Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-12-2013, 03:56 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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