Cullen Jenkins

[Bretsky]

Is going to be released!

Come on, be honest. How many of you guys still have a Jenkins boner? It was the end of the world for some of you just a couple years ago, after all.

I was never a sign Cullen at all costs guy, but IMO the Packers have greatly missed what he brought to the table, and every since pbmax has been bashing him and denying they sorely miss him our A game has been missing Repent and set this team free .......pb !!

[Bretsky]

He started in base at RDE when he was healthy.

He had that calf injury that kept him out.
When he came back, he was money, you had to double him a lot.

He was our glue that allowed Raji to go crazy at the other end.

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[pbmax]

I was never a sign Cullen at all costs guy, but IMO the Packers have greatly missed what he brought to the table, and every since pbmax has been bashing him and denying they sorely miss him our A game has been missing Repent and set this team free .......pb !!

Welcome to the curse of PackerRats.

[Fritz]

Given Jenkins's "pressures" (getting a hand on the QB's ankle just before he completes a twenty yard strike), I prefer Jolly and his pass knockdowns and his probable cheaper contract

[woodbuck27]

Given Jenkins's "pressures" (getting a hand on the QB's ankle just before he completes a twenty yard strike), I prefer Jolly and his pass knockdowns and his probable cheaper contract

Cullen Jenkins isn't coming back to Green Bay. He has too much interest elsewhere.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000146287/article/cullen-jenkins-reportedly-has-sixplus-suitors-in-line

[woodbuck27]

As a guy primarily known for his pass rushing ability, Cullen Jenkins has only one flaw......he doesn't tackle the QB very often.

He's reliable and had 66 tackles and 9.5 SACKS over the past two seasons in 32 starts. He also would help out as a rotational player.

http://www.nfl.com/player/cullenjenkins/2505363/profile

He's also a highly ranked FA this season (at NO. 7 ** by Marc Sessier of NFL.Com) and getting loads of attention from NFL teams including the New York GIANTS.

** http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...erior-dlinemen

Here's another NFL.Com writers look at those who may be up for grabs as free agents or not:

Top 85 free agents: Mike Wallace heads best available

By Gregg Rosenthal ... Around The League Editor

Published: Feb. 28, 2013 at 12:38 p.m

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000145968/article/top-85-free-agents-mike-wallace-heads-best-available

[woodbuck27]

Cullen Jenkins to visit Seahawks, 49ers

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/02/cullen-jenkins-to-visit-seahawks-49ers/

"Jenkins has already paid a visit to the Giants and is reportedly also interested in a return to the Packers."

GO PACK GO !

[Teamcheez1]

Don't understand the fascination with Jenkins. He was not that great a player and is two years older now. He stats in Philly were nothing to shake a stick at.

I suppose as stopgap fill-in at bargain price I would take him, but he is probably not that much better than what we have now.

[smuggler]

He was our best passrushing dlineman the year we won the super bowl. "not that great"

[Bretsky]

He was our best passrushing dlineman the year we won the super bowl. "not that great"

DING DING DING

I know the homerism forces us to come up with reasons why we don't want TT to go after Cullen Jenkins because we are fairly sure we won't......and nobody is saying he is great. Julius Peppers is Great. Jenkins is not Julius Peppers and won't get paid like him either

however

He'd probably still be our best pass rushing DL
Jenkins is still good.

[Patler]

DING DING DING

I know the homerism forces us to come up with reasons why we don't want TT to go after Cullen Jenkins because we are fairly sure we won't......and nobody is saying he is great. Julius Peppers is Great. Jenkins is not Julius Peppers and won't get paid like him either

however

He'd probably still be our best pass rushing DL
Jenkins is still good.

There is another side of homerism that we show here too. It goes something like this; "X plays for the Packers, but isn't one of the top handful on the team, so he must not be that good. Y plays for someone else, so he must be better."

For all the talk about Jenkins' pass rush ability, he sure doesn't get many sacks. Never really has. Basically, he is a 4-5 sacks/year guy.

Jenkins gets 9.5 in 32 games, and people get exited.
Mike Neal had 4.5 in 11 games last year, and we don't have a DL that can put pressure on the passer.

The big difference is that Jenkins has been a consistent mediocre pass rush specialist (when not injured) and Neal might only be a flash in the pan mediocre pass rush specialist (when not injured).

Maybe Jenkins would be the best on the Packers, but that is more of an indictment of what they have than a credit to Jenkins.

[Brando19]

There is another side of homerism that we show here too. It goes something like this; "X plays for the Packers, but isn't one of the top handful on the team, so he must not be that good. Y plays for someone else, so he must be better."

For all the talk about Jenkins' pass rush ability, he sure doesn't get many sacks. Never really has. Basically, he is a 4-5 sacks/year guy.

Jenkins gets 9.5 in 32 games, and people get exited.
Mike Neal had 4.5 in 11 games last year, and we don't have a DL that can put pressure on the passer.

The big difference is that Jenkins has been a consistent mediocre pass rush specialist (when not injured) and Neal might only be a flash in the pan mediocre pass rush specialist (when not injured).

Maybe Jenkins would be the best on the Packers, but that is more of an indictment of what they have than a credit to Jenkins.

Disagree 100%. The difference between Jenkins and Neal? Jenkins was normally doubled, which opened up a lane for Clay. If you're saying Neal is as good as Jenkins, you're wrong.

[Patler]

Disagree 100%. The difference between Jenkins and Neal? Jenkins was normally doubled, which opened up a lane for Clay. If you're saying Neal is as good as Jenkins, you're wrong.

I don't know if I am saying that or not, because I have not seen much of Jenkins for two seasons, so I don't know what his performance is like right now. I really have no basis for a direct comparison of Jenkins today with Neal today. But, I do know that Neal has played very little, so has very little actual playing experience. Last year was his only healthy year, and he started to show some of the things that were expected of him when he was drafted. He very well could be an ascending player who could become as good as Jenkins was, or at least as good as Jenkins is now. It took Jenkins several years to become whatever he was at his best, and I think Neal has some physical advantages that Jenkins did not. As for Jenkins, I suspect he will or has declined, and that salary cap was more the public reason than the actual reason he was released. I'm also not sure what the Eagles thought of his attitude and "leadership" after his sideline shouting match with Andy Reid last year. Level of play and salary might not have been the only reasons for the Eagle's decision either. I'm not labeling Jenkins as a bad guy, just pointing out that the Eagles may have felt he let them down when the team needed veteran player leadership.

I always felt Jenkins was somewhat overvalued on the Packers, primarily because they really haven't had a stud on the DL in a long time. I don't deny that he had effective rushes in games, but he never impressed me as a consistently disruptive force. He could be and was handled routinely, then would have a play or series in which he would show.

I don't recall that Jenkins was "normally doubled", certainly not to the extent that it created routine single blocking on Matthews. If anything, my impression was that it was the other way around when Jenkins was with the Packers. Jenkins looked better because his blocker rarely had much help due to primary attention being focused on Matthews.

Might he improve the Packers pass rush? Probably, because they really don't get much out of their DL. But I don't think the difference would be great at this point, and certainly not worth a lot against the cap.

[pbmax]

DING DING DING

I know the homerism forces us to come up with reasons why we don't want TT to go after Cullen Jenkins because we are fairly sure we won't......and nobody is saying he is great. Julius Peppers is Great. Jenkins is not Julius Peppers and won't get paid like him either

however

He'd probably still be our best pass rushing DL
Jenkins is still good.

But in your head, unlike T2's, you operate without a budget. A decent pass rusher making $5 mil who had spent two or three years missing significant parts of games is not a strong investment opportunity. Remember all the speculation about what happened to Jenkins, why he wasn't MORE effective? Fritz is quite right we spent much more time wondering what was wrong with him than celebrating his success. It was assumed it was leftover injury issues, as he was nicked up a lot. That continued in Philly though it did not cost him a ton of games. In 2010, Howard Green filled in for him and the D didn't seem to miss him.

We know now that as currently constituted, the Packers had no one else for the opposing O to be worried about besides Matthews. Raji has not been a consistent threat. But that doesn't make Jenkins a smart answer at that dollar figure.

Right now, his agent is telling people he has six teams that want to talk to him. He is scheduled to travel to San Fran and Seattle. If there is a deal on the table now, his price might not be coming down.

[pbmax]

Disagree 100%. The difference between Jenkins and Neal? Jenkins was normally doubled, which opened up a lane for Clay. If you're saying Neal is as good as Jenkins, you're wrong.

I think Jenkins was doubled not a threat that must be doubled, but when the Center did not have to react to a blitz. In the nickel or Psycho, Jenkins was facing the Guard one on one for most snaps. If Capers sent a cross blitz of ILBs, the Center couldn't DT. Other snaps, when the cross blitz didn't come, the center then could wander over to Jenkins to hit him. On some blitzes, its Jenkins job to occupy both the Guard and Center to let someone get through.

I think most of what we remember as Jenkins versus double teams were from 3 man rushes in 3rd and long.