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  • #31
    Favre was really great at gunning it out of the pocket only to be picked off. I'll take my chances with Rodgers holding it and erring on the side of caution.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      A LOT of Packer sacks were on the QB. He holds the ball rather than force throws or throwing it away. So unless those sack numbers come with comparisons over who was responsible on other teams, I don't think they should be taken at face value and made to be a make or break performance area.

      That said, the protection can improve by a great margin on the O line alone.
      Originally posted by red View Post
      when you watch some of the other teams in the playoffs, those qb's had all day to sit back there and get comfortable. like 5-6 seconds or more

      rodgers was usually having to move within 2-3 seconds. yeah, he was holding the ball longer then the 2.3 seconds that m3 tries to teach, but it would be nice if he could get 3 seconds or more every now and then without having to move around
      I agree with Red... Rodgers is always having to step up, slide, or outright break the pocket if his first read is covered. The protection tends to break down rather quickly and it is Rodgers houdini act that prevents many more sacks.

      Combine the leaky passpro with a complete inability to move the LOS in short yardage situations, and their general weakness as run blockers to begin with, and you have a pretty shaky OL.

      It'll be interesting to see if TT goes OL early in this draft.
      wist

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      • #33
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        I agree with Red... Rodgers is always having to step up, slide, or outright break the pocket if his first read is covered. The protection tends to break down rather quickly and it is Rodgers houdini act that prevents many more sacks.

        Combine the leaky passpro with a complete inability to move the LOS in short yardage situations, and their general weakness as run blockers to begin with, and you have a pretty shaky OL.

        It'll be interesting to see if TT goes OL early in this draft.
        I agree with PB in that the team may well have too much invested in tackles - two first round picks in the last three years, a two-year starter, and another possibly emerging starter - to be able to really afford to invest another first or second round pick at the tackle position. And if that is the case, then part of the problem is that they are all so young that we all may be forced to simply wait for them - and hope for them - to develop.

        It's not ideal. I know Plater does not agree that the team can't afford another first rounder at tackle, but I believe it would be a waste of resources to draft yet another tackle in the first or even second round.
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        • #34
          Jake Long and Andre Smith will both be valued higher by a team looking for an elite power running game. Both are as good as it gets in that regard while not being totally worthless in pass protection. Ted puts a premium on pass pro though and neither of these guys will be a significant improvement over Sherrod in this area long term IMO.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by smuggler View Post
            Favre was really great at gunning it out of the pocket only to be picked off. I'll take my chances with Rodgers holding it and erring on the side of caution.
            Me too, but I will say my main concern is Aaron getting hammered so much in there.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
              how many playoff teams allowed as many sacks as GB and made the playoffs? ZERO. GB gave up the 2nd most sacks in the lg 51. The next playoff teams Indy & SF gave up 41. Balt gave up 38.

              Packers super bowl season: 38

              They have to get better at protecting the QB and right now they don't have a LT/RT combo that is adequate enough. I really feel like this team is a tackle short of having a good enough line. Right now they're short a starter, and that makes them short on depth.

              If they do into the season w/ what they finished w/ plus Sherrod, then expect more of the same and another early exit in January...that's if AR can survive another big sack season.
              Anybody that knows anything about football would have to agree with you. Protecting Aaron Rodgers and allowing him time to make plays has to be TT's major concern. Our LT position has to improve. Just ..... not at the cost and risk of a 'Jake Long'.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                Jake Long and Andre Smith will both be valued higher by a team looking for an elite power running game. Both are as good as it gets in that regard while not being totally worthless in pass protection. Ted puts a premium on pass pro though and neither of these guys will be a significant improvement over Sherrod in this area long term IMO.
                I don't think we should sign either but I do think both would be an upgrade of Sherry. From what I've seen I'm not yet convinced Sherry is beating out the Shmellow
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  I don't think we should sign either but I do think both would be an upgrade of Sherry. From what I've seen I'm not yet convinced Sherry is beating out the Shmellow
                  I'll be estatic just to see Sherrod back and trying to protect AR.
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