Worst Packer Personnel Move Ever

[Guiness]

Yeah, it's tough to figure out what caused all the bad drafts for sure.

Bob Harlan reached the conclusion that the HC was the GM model was to blame. There were many instances where the HC/GM ignored his couts advice and went ahead and picked who they wanted. The big example is the '79 draft. Red Cochrane was the head scout for the Pack. He was adamant that Bart draft Joe Montana, who was still available. Starr agreed then stubbornly picked a no name DL. Red exploded and threw his clipboard across the Packer draft room and stalked out.

Starr admitted in his autobiography that he had made the move to merely excert his authority. He also admitted it was one of his dumbest moves of his career.

I agree.

So it's tough to tellwho was to blame for all the bad drafts.

Remind me again why the Packers gave Sherman double duties? Why it looks like Reid got it in Philly and looks to have the same thing in KC? His contract apparently gives him control over all football operations.

[woodbuck27]

Pretty funny that. Kick a guy's ass one week, then send the team 5 picks for him the next? Did no one on the board at that time go 'whoa, wait a minute here'?

Did no one on the board at that time go 'whoa, wait a minute here'?

All they had to do was put two thoughts together:

Aging and ...... shakey. Not exactly magical thinking.

[red]

this was the hershel walker trade before hershel walker, and without any of the talent

it said he was 34, but in that picture from the link, he looks like he's in his 50's

[Fritz]

Yeah, it's tough to figure out what caused all the bad drafts for sure.

Bob Harlan reached the conclusion that the HC was the GM model was to blame. There were many instances where the HC/GM ignored his couts advice and went ahead and picked who they wanted. The big example is the '79 draft. Red Cochrane was the head scout for the Pack. He was adamant that Bart draft Joe Montana, who was still available. Starr agreed then stubbornly picked a no name DL. Red exploded and threw his clipboard across the Packer draft room and stalked out.

Starr admitted in his autobiography that he had made the move to merely excert his authority. He also admitted it was one of his dumbest moves of his career.

I agree.

So it's tough to tellwho was to blame for all the bad drafts.

Why Hall of Fame players are terrible coaches and GM's.

[Joemailman]

Yeah, it's tough to figure out what caused all the bad drafts for sure.

Bob Harlan reached the conclusion that the HC was the GM model was to blame. There were many instances where the HC/GM ignored his couts advice and went ahead and picked who they wanted. The big example is the '79 draft. Red Cochrane was the head scout for the Pack. He was adamant that Bart draft Joe Montana, who was still available. Starr agreed then stubbornly picked a no name DL. Red exploded and threw his clipboard across the Packer draft room and stalked out.

Starr admitted in his autobiography that he had made the move to merely excert his authority. He also admitted it was one of his dumbest moves of his career.

I agree.

So it's tough to tellwho was to blame for all the bad drafts.

For the record they drafted NT Charles Johnson who played for the Pack in1979,80,83. Joe Montana throwing to James Lofton would have been interesting, no?

[woodbuck27]

Yeah, it's tough to figure out what caused all the bad drafts for sure.

Bob Harlan reached the conclusion that the HC was the GM model was to blame. There were many instances where the HC/GM ignored his couts advice and went ahead and picked who they wanted. The big example is the '79 draft. Red Cochrane was the head scout for the Pack. He was adamant that Bart draft Joe Montana, who was still available. Starr agreed then stubbornly picked a no name DL. Red exploded and threw his clipboard across the Packer draft room and stalked out.

Starr admitted in his autobiography that he had made the move to merely excert his authority. He also admitted it was one of his dumbest moves of his career.

I agree.

So it's tough to tell who was to blame for all the bad drafts.

The 1979 NFL Draft

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_NFL_Draft

Rd 1 Pick 15 Green Bay Packers pick ... Eddie Lee Ivery - Running Back - Georgia Tech

Ivery played for eight seasons as a running back with the Green Bay Packers. He was forced to retire after suffering a leg injury.

Rd. 2 Pick 44 Green Bay Packers pick ... Steve Atkins - Running Back - Maryland

Atkins was drafted by the Green Bay Packers in the second round of the 1979 NFL Draft and two seasons for the team before splitting the 1981 NFL season with the Packers and the Philadelphia Eagles.

Rd. 3 Pick 71 Green Bay Packers pick ... Charles Johnson - Defensive Tackle - Maryland

Charles Adrian Johnson played three seasons for the Green Bay Packers.

Rd. 3 Pick 82 San Francisco 49ers pick ... Joe Montana - Quarterback - Notre Dame

Joe 'Joe Cool' Montana turned out to be pretty good in the NFL; after winning a college national championship at Notre Dame. Some will have a strong argument that Joe Montana was the best QB that ever played the game. A HOF quarterback (2000) in his first year of eligibility with the San Francisco 49ers and Kansas City Chiefs. While a member of the 49ers, Montana started in four Super Bowl games and won all of them. To check out his many career highlights and awards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Montana

Our next pick in the 1979 Draft was in Round Six (6):

Rd. 6 Pick 153 Green Bay Packers pick ... Dave Simmons - Linebacker - North Carolina

Simmons played that season (1979) with the team.The following season he was a member of the Detroit Lions. After a season away from the NFL, he played with the Baltimore Colts during the 1982 NFL season and the Chicago Bears during the 1983 NFL season.

PACKERS !

[Guiness]

For the record they drafted NT Charles Johnson who played for the Pack in1979,80,83. Joe Montana throwing to James Lofton would have been interesting, no?

I wonder what he did during '81 and '82? Maybe someone should ask him. Or shoot his dog.

[MadScientist]

There were many instances where the HC/GM ignored his couts advice and went ahead and picked who they wanted. The big example is the '79 draft. Red Cochrane was the head scout for the Pack. He was adamant that Bart draft Joe Montana, who was still available. Starr agreed then stubbornly picked a no name DL. Red exploded and threw his clipboard across the Packer draft room and stalked out.

Starr admitted in his autobiography that he had made the move to merely excert his authority. He also admitted it was one of his dumbest moves of his career.

He did a similar move when he took noodle arm Rich Campbell over Ronnie Lott, even though the regional scout was saying that RC was no good. He didn't learn from his mistakes and was not a good talent evaluator.

[Joemailman]

He did a similar move when he took noodle arm Rich Campbell over Ronnie Lott, even though the regional scout was saying that RC was no good. He didn't learn from his mistakes and was not a good talent evaluator.

If not for Bart Starr, the 49ers dynasty might never have happened.

[woodbuck27]

Most of us will recall the man we drafted that never came around. Jamal Reynolds, picked at No. 10 overall in the 2001 Draft. Jamal Reynolds once referred to himself as "the greatest defensive end the world has ever seen, period." This fella looked so good and he saw that.

That was one of the worst first round picks I've experienced as a fan but this might have toped it:

In the 1969 Draft the Packers selected a DT named Rich Moore 12th overall out of Villanova University. A first team tackle on the East Coast Athletic Conference all-conference team in 1968, his senior season. Rich Moore played for two seasons with the Packers. He tore an Achilles tendon in a win over the Philadelphia Eagles (1970), and had surgery putting him out for the season. After trying him on offense during training camp in 1971, the Packers traded him to the New England Patriots for linebacker John Bramlett in late July of 1971.

An Overall Look At The 1969 Packers Draft:

Rich Moore's selection is still remembered by Packers fans and observers as one of the most ill-fated in team history and as one of the most disappointing Packers draft picks of all time inspite of of his career-ending injury.

Packers' head coach Phil Bengtson overruled personnel director Pat Peppler, who had rated other players higher and who thought Moore would be available later in the draft. Peppler later said, "Rich Moore was a disaster. Phil Bengtson fell in love with his size."

Three players available when the Packers took Moore became HOFers: Roger Wehrli, Ted Hendricks and Charlie Joiner.

Also passed up were Fred Dryer, Calvin Hill and Ed White.

The 1969 Packers draft was a weak one overall as their next pick, second round choice Dave Bradley, played in only 16 games in a career that ended in 1972. By 1974 not one 1969 Packers pick remained on the team. Only 9th round choice Dave Hampton was in the NFL at all by 1975, finishing his NFL career with the Falcons and Eagles in 1976.

That was a lousy draft.

[ThunderDan]

The 1969 Packers draft was a weak one overall as their next pick, second round choice Dave Bradley, played in only 16 games in a career that ended in 1972. By 1974 not one 1969 Packers pick remained on the team. Only 9th round choice Dave Hampton was in the NFL at all by 1975, finishing his NFL career with the Falcons and Eagles in 1976.

That was a lousy draft.

If not for the 6th and 7th round picks in 2004 that would have probably ranked equal if not ahead of that one.

Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, Donnell Washington, BJ Sanders, Corey Williams and Scott Wells.

Or 2003, Nick Barnett, Kenny Peterson, James Lee, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Brennan Curtin, Chris Johnson, DeAndrew Rubin, Carl Ford, Steve Josue.

Two year in a row Shermy hits 1 or 2 players. No wonder why we had a lack of talent to surround BF for a while.

[woodbuck27]

I recall this one as a strange story being a Packer fan and a CFL fan as well.

In 1980 The Green Bay Packers were surprized by their first selection in that draft. An All American out of Penn State named Bruce Clark. Bruce Clark won the Lombardi Award as a junior in 1978. He became the first junior to win the coveted award as the best college defensive lineman or linebacker. He was recognized as a consensus first-team All-American in 1978 (Junior), and as a senior in 1979.

Bruce Clark was considered to be an immediate star in the NFL.

The Green Bay Packers GM Bart Starr may have had him already penciled in on his DL when he selected him 4th overall in the 1980 draft. It's best to really check things out before you make a final decision. Bruce Clark refused to play with the Green Bay Packers. He chose a different life strategy that included playing football in Canada (the CFL).

Instead of the Packers he opted for the Toronto Argonauts for the 1980 and 1981 seasons. He was a CFL All Star in 1980. As a Pro Bruce Clark played Defensive End.

In 1982 Bruce Clark jumped to the NFL and signed with the NO Saints where he played until 1988. He made the pro Bowl in 1984. He played with the KC Chiefs in 1989 and ended his football career with the Barcelona Dragons (WLAF) in 1991.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

If not for the 6th and 7th round picks in 2004 that would have probably ranked equal if not ahead of that one.

Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, Donnell Washington, BJ Sanders, Corey Williams and Scott Wells.

Or 2003, Nick Barnett, Kenny Peterson, James Lee, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Brennan Curtin, Chris Johnson, DeAndrew Rubin, Carl Ford, Steve Josue.

Two year in a row Shermy hits 1 or 2 players. No wonder why we had a lack of talent to surround BF for a while.

Yes that's a brutal list TD.

So much hope here:

Ahmad Carroll (grabby), Joey Thomas (health), Donnell Washington ( the right body but...), BJ Sanders (yikes !!!!!), Corey Williams and Scott Wells .... OK.

Nick Barnett .... OK,

! Ucccchhh ! >>>! Kenny Peterson, James Lee, Hunter Hillenmeyer, Brennan Curtin, Chris Johnson, DeAndrew Rubin, Carl Ford, Steve Josue. !<<< ! Ucccchhh !

PACKERS !

[red]

yup, that pretty much sums up the packers of the 70's and 80's

guy would rather play in fucking canada then play for us

very sad

[woodbuck27]

yup, that pretty much sums up the packers of the 70's and 80's

guy would rather play in fucking canada then play for us

very sad

I'm digging to try to get to the guts of that story red. Why exactly Bruce Clark elected to take his skills to the CFL? That rather shocking story is fuzzy to me now.