Semi-Official jumping the gun FA signings thread - and First Day of Free Agency cuts as a bonus!

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On Walden:

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
#Colts GM Ryan Grigson: "Erik sets the edge in a textbook way, and in a 3-4 that's something your (OLB) has to do. His motor never stops."

Its what happens after he sets the edge that worries you. Might be telling that only $4 mil of Walden's deal is guaranteed according to McGinn.

[swede]

On Walden:

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
#Colts GM Ryan Grigson: "Erik sets the edge in a textbook way, and in a 3-4 that's something your (OLB) has to do. His motor never stops."

Its what happens after he sets the edge that worries you. Might be telling that only $4 mil of Walden's deal is guaranteed according to McGinn.

True. He chases plays down from behind. From way behind.

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I Love the 80s.

SC_DougFarrar @SC_DougFarrar

They'll have fun tonight. @ByTimBooth @benshpigel So, wait. The Eagles have Ed Wang AND Patrick Chung?

[Brando19]

You weren't joking around but nice try, now go back to what you know best and hook up with your sister or something.

I will...as soon as you go back to what you do best....which is not working and complaining about Whitey.

[KYPack]

On Walden:

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn
#Colts GM Ryan Grigson: "Erik sets the edge in a textbook way, and in a 3-4 that's something your (OLB) has to do. His motor never stops."

Its what happens after he sets the edge that worries you. Might be telling that only $4 mil of Walden's deal is guaranteed according to McGinn.

Somebody needs to send this laddie boy tape of our game against the Chiefs in '11 or the 49er playoff game.

Losing track of his edge responsibility is one of his biggest weaknesses.

[woodbuck27]

His base salary is 5.9 million. He still has 2.4 million of his signing bonus to be prorated. He also has another bonus of 1.4 million. It seems that depending on when you cut him, you would save anywhere from 3.5-4.9 million. If House is healthy, it could happen in training camp. House was having a great camp before he got hurt in the first preseason game.

There has to be several strategies to employ to secure a RB like Stephen Jackson.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

if we sign hillis there is a chance that we could field an all-white offense next season

white power,

or is that not a good team nickname?

White and 'power and speed' may work for DODGE but not the NFL.

[woodbuck27]

Cobb has a little white in him, right? He has blue eyes so it must be true!

So what's your point?

[Brandon494]

Remember Jim Taylor!

I know who he is but I'm too young to remember him.

[woodbuck27]

You right, because everyone knows whites make the best running backs.

It's remarkable just how few white RB's have made the HOF that have played over the last half century:

Who am I missing after these fellas?

Green Bay Packers... Paul Hornung and Green Bay Packers and New Orleans Saints ... Jim Taylor.

Miami Dolphins and New York GIANTS... Larry Csonka.

The New York Jets and Washington Redskins... John Riggins.

[Guiness]

I can't believe Walden got that much. He definitely seemed like JAG and I didn't expect him to be signed for anywhere near that. I'm honestly surprised at anything over the vet minimum.

[woodbuck27]

I can't believe Walden got that much. He definitely seemed like JAG and I didn't expect him to be signed for anywhere near that. I'm honestly surprised at anything over the vet minimum.

Yea ! It's hard to imagine that he's worth 'Stephen Jackson' money.

The next question is:

Stephen Jackson and $4 million$. What's wrong with that picture?

[pittstang5]

I can't believe Walden got that much. He definitely seemed like JAG and I didn't expect him to be signed for anywhere near that. I'm honestly surprised at anything over the vet minimum.

I can't believe it either. It's probably one of those contracts where the 1st two years are cheap - say average of 2 to 2.5 mil a year, then balloons to 4 - 5 mil in the final two years. So, it's probably a two year, 4 or 5 mil contract. - Pure speculation on my part.

[Patler]

I can't believe it either. It's probably one of those contracts where the 1st two years are cheap - say average of 2 to 2.5 mil a year, then balloons to 4 - 5 mil in the final two years. So, it's probably a two year, 4 or 5 mil contract. - Pure speculation on my part.

Several sources say $4 M guaranteed (which surprises me too, a little). Walden said it was almost 16 M for the 4 years. I could see a $4m signing bonus with salaries of 730K (vet min) this year, and future salaries of 2M, 2M and 4M. Throw in a 2M roster bonus in year 3 or 4, and you get to the "almost 16M" total contract

[Smeefers]

On Walden:
Don't forget though, if he plays throughout the year, he could reach benchmarks just by getting the playing time and therefore get paid like Elvis even though he's playin like Cher. I have no idea how good or bad the Colts defense is. It could be possible that he was a giant step up from what they had. You gotta remember that 3-4 LB's do make a majority of the tackles in the game and he did have a pretty decent pass rush. If he has players around him that aren't half 3rd stringers, he may perform much better as well.

On Jackson:
Never overpay for an ageing star. Remember Wolf's advice? It's better to get rid of em a year to early than a year to late. Jackson is going to find out that if he wants to play for a contender, any contender, he's going to have to accept less money. Sure he's going to get some good cash from a team that needs him. If he want's a legit shot at the title though, he's going to have to take less than what he's worth. There's plenty of fish in that sea, don't need to go all in on one guy... even if you love him.