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  • Naw, TT hasn't gotten any probowlers. Just Aaron Rodgers, Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Clay Mathews, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, Tramon Williams, John Kuhn, BJ Raji and Scott Wells.

    Listen, I'm not saying TT is perfect. Would I like him to be more aggressive in FA? Yes. I'd like to see him do more. I just don't want him going all in. Maybe that's where I get sidetracked in this conversation all the time. You guys aren't saying that we should bust the bank for players we really don't need are you? You just want us to offer maybe 1 mil more a year to a proven vet in order to get him. If you think GJ is worth 9 mil, maybe we offer him 10 to keep him, right? We offered SJ 3 mil a year, maybe we should have gone to 4.5 just to fix this glaring need. You're not breaking the bank, you're just trying to be reasonable. I understand and agree with that, as long as you're not willing to do that with every position out there because that way leads disaster.

    I suppose I just remember being a kid, turning on the TV, then turning it off, then turning it on 3 minutes later and then turning it off, not being able to take how horrible our team was playing. I saw us going down that road again when Sherman took over and TT has just been a great relief to me. It hasn't all be roses by far, but I think he's tried to do the best with what he's been given. I think our team is better now than it was 10 years ago. I think it's better now than it was 5 years ago.

    The reason I defend TT so much is that I don't see his philosophy leading to a drop off like we had with Wolf's. I see him being able to sustain a good team indefinitely. The Patriots, Packers, Ravens and the Steelers are pretty much the only teams that year in and year out have put up solid teams and are poised to do so for the future. If that's the case, then I think we're doing something right.
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    • Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
      Naw, TT hasn't gotten any probowlers. Just Aaron Rodgers, Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Clay Mathews, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, Tramon Williams, John Kuhn, BJ Raji and Scott Wells.

      Listen, I'm not saying TT is perfect. Would I like him to be more aggressive in FA? Yes. I'd like to see him do more. I just don't want him going all in. Maybe that's where I get sidetracked in this conversation all the time. You guys aren't saying that we should bust the bank for players we really don't need are you? You just want us to offer maybe 1 mil more a year to a proven vet in order to get him. If you think GJ is worth 9 mil, maybe we offer him 10 to keep him, right? We offered SJ 3 mil a year, maybe we should have gone to 4.5 just to fix this glaring need. You're not breaking the bank, you're just trying to be reasonable. I understand and agree with that, as long as you're not willing to do that with every position out there because that way leads disaster.

      I suppose I just remember being a kid, turning on the TV, then turning it off, then turning it on 3 minutes later and then turning it off, not being able to take how horrible our team was playing. I saw us going down that road again when Sherman took over and TT has just been a great relief to me. It hasn't all be roses by far, but I think he's tried to do the best with what he's been given. I think our team is better now than it was 10 years ago. I think it's better now than it was 5 years ago.

      The reason I defend TT so much is that I don't see his philosophy leading to a drop off like we had with Wolf's. I see him being able to sustain a good team indefinitely. The Patriots, Packers, Ravens and the Steelers are pretty much the only teams that year in and year out have put up solid teams and are poised to do so for the future. If that's the case, then I think we're doing something right.
      Nice post.

      Respectfully, the Green Bay Packer Pro Bowler's and the Ted Thompson reign.

      Aaron Rodgers, Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Clay Mathews, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, Tramon Williams, John Kuhn, BJ Raji and Scott Wells.

      That's ten.

      The San Francisco 49ers had 'nine' selections to the Pro Bowl this past year.

      The reality check:

      Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Greg Jennings and Scott Wells are gone.

      I always hope that TT will do 'just' a little more because I feel he has to.

      GO PACK GO !
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      • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
        Nice post.

        Respectfully, the Green Bay Packer Pro Bowler's and the Ted Thompson reign.

        Aaron Rodgers, Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Clay Mathews, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, Tramon Williams, John Kuhn, BJ Raji and Scott Wells.

        That's ten.

        The San Francisco 49ers had 'nine' selections to the Pro Bowl this past year.

        The reality check:

        Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Greg Jennings and Scott Wells are gone.

        I always hope that TT will do 'just' a little more because I feel he has to.

        GO PACK GO !
        When the packers went 15-1 they had Greg Jennings, John Kuhn, Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, Aaron Rodgers, Scott Wells, and Charles Woodson go to the pro bowl. When one team plays much better than all the other teams around it, it tends to get a lot of pro bowlers. I don't believe that's a fair measurement to consider how well a GM is performing.

        Players who have not made the pro bowl from the packers : Josh Sitton, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb, Bryan Bulaga, Desmond Bishop, Ryan Pickett, Casey Haward, Sam Shields. These guys are near or at that level along with our other pro bowlers.

        I'm not saying we don't have a few weak spots, but I definitely do not think our team is lacking in talent. What do we need? A LT, a LOLB and a RB. It's not like TT hasn't tried addressing those options with Sherrod, Perry and Alex Green. Sometimes the guy misses.
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        • Was there really that big of the drop off due to Wolf ? I'm not sure I see it that way. When Sherman took over as GM I would not have called the cup dry
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            Was there really that big of the drop off due to Wolf ? I'm not sure I see it that way. When Sherman took over as GM I would not have called the cup dry
            He drafted a punter in the 3rd and traded UP to do that.

            That's when I fell off his bandwagon.

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            • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
              He drafted a punter in the 3rd and traded UP to do that.

              That's when I fell off his bandwagon.

              That was Sherman, right ? I thought somebody made mention of how R Wolf kind of left the pot empty. I didn't see that. Now Sherman was on his way to doing that....I think......it was good that was stopped
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                That was Sherman, right ? I thought somebody made mention of how R Wolf kind of left the pot empty. I didn't see that. Now Sherman was on his way to doing that....I think......it was good that was stopped
                Not cupboard empty but he whiffed two of his later drafts, including his last or Sherman's first depending on how you look at it.

                But even with that he still had drafted one of the best Packer O lines ever, even if he had lost a bit off the old fastball.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                  When the packers went 15-1 they had Greg Jennings, John Kuhn, Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, Aaron Rodgers, Scott Wells, and Charles Woodson go to the pro bowl. When one team plays much better than all the other teams around it, it tends to get a lot of pro bowlers. I don't believe that's a fair measurement to consider how well a GM is performing.

                  Players who have not made the pro bowl from the packers : Josh Sitton, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb, Bryan Bulaga, Desmond Bishop, Ryan Pickett, Casey Haward, Sam Shields. These guys are near or at that level along with our other pro bowlers.

                  I'm not saying we don't have a few weak spots, but I definitely do not think our team is lacking in talent. What do we need? A LT, a LOLB and a RB. It's not like TT hasn't tried addressing those options with Sherrod, Perry and Alex Green. Sometimes the guy misses.
                  "When the packers went 15-1 they had Greg Jennings, John Kuhn, Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, Aaron Rodgers, Scott Wells, and Charles Woodson go to the pro bowl. When one team plays much better than all the other teams around it, it tends to get a lot of pro bowlers." Smeefers

                  Your correct.

                  Again... so many Pro Bowl players currently on San Fran 49ers roster. The team that is currently considered as the leading contender for the Super Bowl along with the (AFC) Denver BRONCOS.

                  I agree that the Packers have a maturing and young roster that will improve. I stand with what I see. We are slipping and have slipped since 'the off season' began. Mostly I believe because TT hasn't counter punched yet. This isn't reason to panic as his behaviour this off season isn't uncharacteristic for him.

                  Right now three NFC teams are ranked with or above us. San Fran, Seattle and Atlanta may or not have all improved depended upon one's perspective. I believe that Ted Thompson is paying attention.

                  Again ...Ted Thompson's work never ends and it musn't.

                  GO PACKERS !
                  ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                  ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                  ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                  ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                  • Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                    Naw, TT hasn't gotten any probowlers. Just Aaron Rodgers, Nick Collins, Charles Woodson, Clay Mathews, AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, Tramon Williams, John Kuhn, BJ Raji and Scott Wells.

                    Listen, I'm not saying TT is perfect. Would I like him to be more aggressive in FA? Yes. I'd like to see him do more. I just don't want him going all in. Maybe that's where I get sidetracked in this conversation all the time. You guys aren't saying that we should bust the bank for players we really don't need are you? You just want us to offer maybe 1 mil more a year to a proven vet in order to get him. If you think GJ is worth 9 mil, maybe we offer him 10 to keep him, right? We offered SJ 3 mil a year, maybe we should have gone to 4.5 just to fix this glaring need. You're not breaking the bank, you're just trying to be reasonable. I understand and agree with that, as long as you're not willing to do that with every position out there because that way leads disaster.

                    I suppose I just remember being a kid, turning on the TV, then turning it off, then turning it on 3 minutes later and then turning it off, not being able to take how horrible our team was playing. I saw us going down that road again when Sherman took over and TT has just been a great relief to me. It hasn't all be roses by far, but I think he's tried to do the best with what he's been given. I think our team is better now than it was 10 years ago. I think it's better now than it was 5 years ago.

                    The reason I defend TT so much is that I don't see his philosophy leading to a drop off like we had with Wolf's. I see him being able to sustain a good team indefinitely. The Patriots, Packers, Ravens and the Steelers are pretty much the only teams that year in and year out have put up solid teams and are poised to do so for the future. If that's the case, then I think we're doing something right.
                    If the Sherman years were terrible in your eyes you should have been around in the 70s and 80s! Those were horrific years!

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                    • Comment woodbuck27:

                      Do we have a LT file? If so this post and 2nd LINK below should be read before filing.

                      ** http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/258278/for-4-years--and--$34m-long-picks-rams-over-fins

                      The above LINK is being awkward.

                      ** LT Jake Long is gone from the market and the price of a LT set. There are other FA T's looking for a CONTRACT. It doesn't end there.

                      With Jake Long off the market, things should start to heat up with the other free agent tackles waiting to land new homes for the 2013 season.


                      Report: Chiefs will listen to Branden Albert trade offers

                      Posted by Josh Alper on March 18, 2013, 10:24 AM EDT

                      This article is decent in terms of determining the cost of FA Tackles this off season and more. ie Jake Long, Rams ; Will Beatty, Giants ; Jermon Bushrod, Bears; Gosder Cherilus, Colts; Sam Baker, Falcons and Phil Loadholt, Vikings.

                      Jake Long finally made a decision allowing the Cincinnati Bengals to finalize negotiations with Andre Smith.
                      Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-18-2013, 11:33 AM.
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                      • Following the Marvin Lewis edict to build from within, and not spend money on external players, the Bengals have kept another of their own.


                        Bengals bring back another of their own, Rey Maualuga

                        Posted by Darin Gantt on March 18, 2013, 11:17 AM EDT

                        Comment woodbuck27:

                        See Also 'just how valuable' Vontaze Burfict has become to Bengal plans for this season. How the above move will impact his position:

                        Find all the latest Rotoworld fantasy sports news, live coverage, videos, highlights, stats, predictions, and results right here on NBC Sports.
                        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                        • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                          Comment woodbuck27:

                          Do we have a LT file? If so this post and 2nd LINK below should be read before filing.

                          ** http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/258278/for-4-years--and--$34m-long-picks-rams-over-fins

                          The above LINK is being awkward.

                          ** LT Jake Long is gone from the market and the price of a LT set. There are other FA T's looking for a CONTRACT. It doesn't end there.

                          With Jake Long off the market, things should start to heat up with the other free agent tackles waiting to land new homes for the 2013 season.


                          Report: Chiefs will listen to Branden Albert trade offers

                          Posted by Josh Alper on March 18, 2013, 10:24 AM EDT
                          Jake Long got a pretty nice contract from the Rams, but not ridiculous. Normally I'd say it was a good move picking up a pro-bowler just getting his second contract, but I'm not sure they had a great need for him. I thought Saffold was ok, and it looks like he'll be asking for a trade. Miami got a weapon for their young QB, but in spending the money there may have lost his blindside protection.

                          I'm not sure these moves are going to work out for either team.
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                          • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            If the Sherman years were terrible in your eyes you should have been around in the 70s and 80s! Those were horrific years!
                            No kidding and if you stared too hard 'at that paint drying', you risked cataracts.
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                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                            • The Free Agent Hot 100

                              Posted by Mike Wilkening on March 6, 2013, 7:05 PM EDT

                              Comment woodbuck27:

                              This list needs to be brought up to date RE: LT Jake Long (RAMS) and CB Aqib Talib (PATS) and maybe some more signed this past weekend. Never the less, they are coming off this TOP 100 LIST fast.

                              There's about 3 dozen not yet signed.
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                              • Anyone wondering why the Titans were talking to former Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick just got their answer.


                                Comment woodbuck27:

                                Want a back-up QB? You know this guy. Moreso, Ted Thompson knows this guy. Check out the fan comments.

                                Matt Hasselbeck out in Tennessee

                                Posted by Josh Alper on March 18, 2013, 4:49 PM EDT
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