Jennings visits Vikings

[Pugger]

Possibly as the only competent WR they would have. Harvin had good numbers over his healthy 9 game stretch. Someone has to be the target.

As for Jennings coming back, I don't begrudge a player betting on himself and winning like Flacco. I can't dislike Jennings for betting on himself and losing. We now know why he tried to play through the sports hernia.

Lesson 124 about the difference between team goals and individual player goals.

I don't think Harvin is as good a route runner like Jennings is.

[pittstang5]

Thats what I'm expecting to read and/or hear sometime soon on NFL Access.

I've been making several observations of Greg Jennings over this past year that tell me he's not commited to the Green Bay Packers. This rumor of him being offered $10 million$ by the Packers. I would advise holding that as true, with not one, rather a few grains of salt. I believe that's simply spin.

Why?

If Ted Thompson offered Greg Jennings 'and his attitude', $10 million$ for however long and came in under Atlanta's $4 million guranteed 3 year $12 million$ contract to Steven Jackson. Those two moves 'no moves' by Ted Thompson would reflect poorly on him.

Surely .....Ted Thompson isn't that dumb.

What I'm telling you here is that if true. A $10 million$ offer to Greg Jennings would have handcuffed Ted Thompson's 'best efforts' to acquire a real value in our backfield. Steven Jackson is power RB that can receive and block and all of that can be spelled 'relief' for Aaron Rodgers.

Soon we may know 'the rest of that story'.

I think that $10 mil a year for Jennings rumor holds about as much water as the S. Jackson wants to play for Green Bay rumor - sieve like. This happens every year. We hear some whisper about a big name FA looking at Green Bay. Since the Packers are hardly ever in the FA news, one whisper of anything is like gold to us. Myself, as well as many other fans have fallen into this Free Agent frenzy.

[Joemailman]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...packers-offer/

According to Jason Wilde of ESPNWisconsin, there’s a growing feeling Jennings could still return. He reports that the Packers offered a deal worth in the neighborhood of $10 million a year, and that there had been discussions between his agent and the team recently about a return.

[Spaulding]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...packers-offer/

Joe, thanks for the source. Now I know who to look to (Jason Wilde) should I ever need a quick fix.

[woodbuck27]

I've reread your post three times and am still not entirely clear what you're trying to say. Also would love to know where the $10mil/year offer from TT to GJ was reported as I find it hard to believe. Was not a younger/healthier Jennings signed most recently for 3yd/$27mil? I seriously doubt Jennings gets anything more than that and would expect it to be more around $7-$8mil on average a year with the last year or two not even guaranteed.

No way to prove but as a betting man I'm guessing TT would have offered (if that even holds true) Jennings at most $7mil/year when he only paid Jones and Nelson $4mil/year. Just too much depth and age/injury factors to offer Jennings any more when he also needs to extend our two elite players.

OK I'll try it this way:

I've been making several observations of Greg Jennings over this past year that tell me he's not commited to the Green Bay Packers. This rumor of him being offered $10 million$ by the Packers. I would advise holding that as true, with not one, rather a few grains of salt. I believe that's simply spin.

There's evidence that Greg Jennings is a disgruntled Packer. A serious effort to re-sign him has to be questioned, especially at $10 million$ /year.

If Ted Thompson offered Greg Jennings 'and his attitude', $10 million$ for however long and came in under Atlanta's $4 million guranteed 3 year $12 million$ contract to Steven Jackson. Those two moves, 'no moves' by Ted Thompson, would reflect poorly on him.

Surely .....Ted Thompson isn't that dumb.

What I'm telling you here is that if true. A $10 million$ offer to Greg Jennings would have handcuffed Ted Thompson's 'best efforts' to acquire a real value in our backfield. Steven Jackson is power RB that can receive and block and all of that can be spelled 'relief' for Aaron Rodgers.

With all respect to the posters here that believe that Ted Thompson is a truly gifted mind as our GM.

By making a $10 million$ offer to Greg Jennings and 'that being a fact'. Ted Thompson would IMO have made an error; handcuffing himself with respect to making any serious effort to acquire Steven Jackson.

I don't believe that Ted Thompson made such a high offer to Greg Jennings. Ted Thompson isn't that dumb.

I suspect or I'm guessing that it's more probable, that the source of that $10million$ offer to Greg Jennings, came from the Greg Jennings camp. That large $10 million$ offer is simply spin. Greg Jennings will not receive $10 million$ from Ted Thompson.

GO PACKERS !

[Spaulding]

OK I'll try it this way:

I've been making several observations of Greg Jennings over this past year that tell me he's not commited to the Green Bay Packers. This rumor of him being offered $10 million$ by the Packers. I would advise holding that as true, with not one, rather a few grains of salt. I believe that's simply spin.

There's evidence that Greg Jennings is a disgruntled Packer. A serious effort to re-sign him has to be questioned, especially at $10 million$ /year.

If Ted Thompson offered Greg Jennings 'and his attitude', $10 million$ for however long and came in under Atlanta's $4 million guranteed 3 year $12 million$ contract to Steven Jackson. Those two moves, 'no moves' by Ted Thompson, would reflect poorly on him.

Surely .....Ted Thompson isn't that dumb.

What I'm telling you here is that if true. A $10 million$ offer to Greg Jennings would have handcuffed Ted Thompson's 'best efforts' to acquire a real value in our backfield. Steven Jackson is power RB that can receive and block and all of that can be spelled 'relief' for Aaron Rodgers.

With all respect to the posters here that believe that Ted Thompson is a truly gifted mind as our GM.

By making a $10 million$ offer to Greg Jennings and that being 'a fact'. Ted Thompson would IMO have errored and handcuffed himself with respect to making any serious effort to acquire Steven Jackson. I don't believe that Ted Thompson made such a high offer to Greg Jennings. Ted Thompson isn't that dumb.

A) It's not fact, it's on profootball talk which is on par with the National Enquirer
B) We never needed Steven Jackson. Our offense is geared for the pass to setup the run and thus it would have been a nice bonus to have him but money could likely be spent more wisely on extensions to Rodgers/Matthews and/or upgrading the defense with a FA signing.
C) Although TT's approach is boring to the point of watching paint dry, he gets a continued pass for quiet some time having fielded a super bowl champion and consistently competitive team

[pbmax]

John Clayton just Tweeted that Jennings visit is going well but the Packers still have a chance to sign him. Which is 140 character NFL reporter speak for "I have no idea what is happening except no one has stormed out of the hotel mad."

[pbmax]

Wilde's report of $10 mil per year seems solid as he says its from a source he trusts 1000%, which would suggest a team source rather than agent. But he is unclear on the timing. It could be the Packers last, best offer before he got hurt during the season with the hernia. After that, esp after surgery, everyone knew the market would drop.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...packers-offer/

If that's true. If Greg Jennings actually received an offer close to $10 million$ from Ted Thompson. The proof of that will be his return to the Packers locker room for this upcoming season with a $10 million$/ year contract with gurantees.

I question the reality of such an offer or in terms of such 'the TRUTH' of this report.

If such an offer was made to Greg Jennings. Then Ted Thompson would be advised to dramaticaly adjust it downwards to protect his reputation as a smart GM. We will not ever read that Greg Jennings was retained by the Green Bay Packers for $10 million$ per season.

This mess IMO makes the matter of Brett Favre's end as a Green Bay Packer pale in comparison.

It has to be ..... bye bye Greg Jennings.

[woodbuck27]

Wilde's report of $10 mil per year seems solid as he says its from a source he trusts 1000%, which would suggest a team source rather than agent. But he is unclear on the timing. It could be the Packers last, best offer before he got hurt during the season with the hernia. After that, esp after surgery, everyone knew the market would drop.

After all we know now and Greg Jennings.

I'll be shocked if any $10 million$ offer is still on the table awaiting Greg Jennings final approval.

GO PACK GO!

[woodbuck27]

http://tireball.com/nfl/2013/03/14/vikings-trying-hard-to-land-greg-jennings/

Vikings trying hard to land Greg Jennings.

Posted by John Boarman on March 14, 2013 at 9:04 pm


If it's not the Vikings then it apears to me that he has closed the door to returning to the Green Bay Packers.

Accepting the fact of a $10 million$ offer as being made to Greg Jennings sometime. His rejection of such a generous offer and follow-up decision to 'roll the dice' in FA.

Has cemented his fate as a possible future Green Bay Packer and far less money than $10 million$ per year.

I say 'good luck' Greg Jennings with a career continuing elsewhere.

[MadScientist]

After all we know now and Greg Jennings.

I'll be shocked if any $10 million$ offer is still on the table awaiting Greg Jennings final approval.

GO PACK GO!

It might still be, depending on the actual numbers. $10M reported is almost never a true $10M. Think about this contract:
$10M bonus
$1M base - fully guaranteed
$4M base - fully guaranteed
$6M base - guaranteed for injury only
$13M base
$16M base

That's $10M per year, but realistically a 3 year $21M deal which is more realistic for Jennings and could still allow the Packers to keep the rest of the key pending FA's

[woodbuck27]

It might still be, depending on the actual numbers. $10M reported is almost never a true $10M. Think about this contract:
$10M bonus
$1M base - fully guaranteed
$4M base - fully guaranteed
$6M base - guaranteed for injury only
$13M base
$16M base

That's $10M per year, but realistically a 3 year $21M deal which is more realistic for Jennings and could still allow the Packers to keep the rest of the key pending FA's

Sorry but looking at your numbers I'm not clear on how they shape up to a 3 year - $21 million$ contract.

Unless it's here:

$10M bonus to re-sign or fully guranteed 'up front $'.

AND:

Year 1 - $1M base - fully guaranteed
Year 2 - $4M base - fully guaranteed
Year 3 - $6M base - guaranteed for injury only

Added up becomes a total package of $21 million$.

Please explain these figures:

$13M base
$16M base

Thanks.

[red]

those would be the numbers for year 4 and 5

the player would be cut before he recieves that money

so even though the agen would say its a 5 year 50 million dollar deal, in reality, it would be a three year 21 million dollar deal

player could/would be cut before year 4 and the theam would have a 4 million dollar cap hit in year 4

even though it would be called a 10 million per yer contract, the actual cap numbers would be

2013- 3 million
2014- 6 million
2015- 8 million
2016- player cut. 4 million dollar cap hit (remaining signing bonus money)
2017- 0

[woodbuck27]

those would be the numbers for year 4 and 5

the player would be cut before he recieves that money

so even though the agen would say its a 5 year 50 million dollar deal, in reality, it would be a three year 21 million dollar deal

player could/would be cut before year 4 and the theam would have a 4 million dollar cap hit in year 4

even though it would be called a 10 million per yer contract, the actual cap numbers would be

2013- 3 million
2014- 6 million
2015- 8 million
2016- player cut. 4 million dollar cap hit (remaining signing bonus money)
2017- 0

OK .... Thanks red.