Jennings signs with Vikings

[Pugger]

So here's a question. Which would make our offense better?

A) Greg Jennings for roughly 9mil/year
B) Jake Long at LT for roughly 9mil/year

Doesn't sound like we're even interested in Long and reports are he's asking for North of 10mil/year but just what if you could have Long for roughly the price of Jennings? Both have been injured as of late but otherwise excellent players.

Neither, not at those prices.

[woodbuck27]

He got a better deal and more money to ply a trade in a very rough sport, one that can take away your ability to earn a living at a moment's notice. I hold nothing against him and wish him the best except for 2 times a year. If that $18 mil guaranteed number is not agent fluff and puff, then its a no-brainer.

Unlike the QB (and unlike what woodbuck is trying to suggest), he did not try to manipulate the front office, fans or those around him except to maximize his contract.

No one (well, with the exception of woodbuck) expects loyalty from teams, having long ago learned the lesson that teams do not hold it as a high priority. Its ludicrous to expect it from players. He is not in the same position as Favre or Driver where a Packer legacy will probably offer a very lucrative second career as a Packer icon/spokesmodel. He would always be choice B between himself and Driver for events and memorabilia sales and a distant 3rd if Favre ever returns.

I am glad he was a Packer. I wish him (almost) the best.

A) "He got a better deal and more money to ply a trade in a very rough sport, one that can take away your ability to earn a living at a moment's notice. I hold nothing against him and wish him the best except for 2 times a year. If that $18 mil guaranteed number is not agent fluff and puff, then its a no-brainer."pbmax

I agree with the above and will add this. I believe for his own reasons that Greg Jennings had decided to embrace 'Free Agency' full on. To try and get the very best contract he could for his family's sake.

For some time now. The general feeling on this forum RE: Greg Jennings future. Was that he would not be a Green Bay Packer next season. The closer the deadline to be tagged approached. The more that reality could be predicted.

I felt that the Vikings were going to be a possible and logical choice as his next employer. If 'in fact' he was offered an attractive option to become 'a Minnesota Viking'. I became more aware of 'that reality', when I learned earlier this week, that the Minnesota Vikings had traded Percy Harvin.

See my posts early in the thread 'as entitled' below that verify's my hunch:

The Vikings trade Percy Harvin to the Seattle Seahawks pending that he passes a physical.

B) "Unlike the QB (and unlike what woodbuck is trying to suggest), he did not try to manipulate the front office, fans or those around him except to maximize his contract." pbmax

pbmax ... Produce the post (s) where I insinuate manipulation on behalf of Greg Jennings in any direction or regard. I did no such thing.

Greg Jennings exercised his rights as a 'Free Agent'; with the utmost character and manner that we have come to respect in him, as a person of honour and professionalism. He entered 'Free Agency' with a certain goal in mind. A focus that had alot to do with a 'very possible' change for him and his family. For reasons that are 'only his business', he pursued and found another NFL team to play for.

I assume 'the QB' is Brett Favre.

I made one post that clearly said that it was my opinion. That depended on the direction or landing spot for Greg Jennings this could have turned out being a PR nightmare for 'the Green Bay Packers'; specifically on Packer GM Ted Thompson. That certainly had nothing to do with 'anything Brett Favre', or Greg Jennings possibly landing with the Vikings.

You know that can of worms that can be opened without due diligence? It's my position that for the good of all. You don't rake over spent coals. It's too late to mull over all that's available to us in analyzing why Greg Jennings is no longer a Green Bay Packer. Why it was clearly in front of us. That was going to be more likely the case long before Free Agency opened.

Let's not get cute here and pretend there was 'only' one way.

That so deemed... 'legitimate team source $10million$ offer', could be played. RE: Greg Jennings future services.

Maybe certain powerful people in the Packer organization are breathing a sigh of relief that Greg Jennings is gone. Gone even to the Minnesota Vikings. That ahhh sure....$10 million$ offer, might otherwise have turned into a Green Bay Packer PR nightmare.

C) " No one (well, with the exception of woodbuck) expects loyalty from teams, having long ago learned the lesson that teams do not hold it as a high priority. " pbmax

Yea sure make me the whipping post. Ohh Boy ! I'll set you straight on that one.

I've been a Pro Sports fan going back to the mid 1950's. Please don't try to paint a picture of me and naivety regarding 'loyalty in Pro sports'.

Two of my sports hero's were Frank Mahovlich and Guy Lafleur. If you or any member here, knows even a little bit about their careers and how their teams management treated them, when they were 'simply done' with them. You would be as aware as I am that there are few instances of team loyalty to a given player; and that, no matter what his star power was 'in their view'.

That 'of course' now works both ways. The 'little guy' stepped up.

Starting with the introduction of 'Free Agency'; there is no loyalty either way. It's business 'as usual' every year, for both of the team management and pro athlete's side. Actually it's like life in general but on a larger $money$ scale, with the same basic principle.

Everyone deserves to serve themself best. To get their best in life.

I believe that Greg Jennings believes he got that for himself and his family on Friday March 15, 2013. When he was introduced as a Minnesota Viking.

I made this post, an attempt to set the record straight.

I've no reason to be defensive or defend my position (s) RE: anything Greg Jennings.

GO PACK GO!

[woodbuck27]

Back to business. I'm posting this before I read it:

http://espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=7371&is_corp=1

‘I was looking for a change’

By JASON WILDE
jwilde@espnwisconsin.com

Comment woodbuck27:

RE: Greg Jennings decision to become a Minnesota Viking.

Now I'll read it.

GO PACKERS !

[ThunderDan]

This is why I don't purchase players' jerseys and only wear generic Packer gear.

Same with me....so far.

I wanted to buya Finley jersey three years ago and then he hurt his knee so I waited. Then he got a case of the dropsee and the Pack didn't extend him to the long-term deal I was sure he would get. Still sitting on my wallet waiting to pounce.

[pbmax]

B) "Unlike the QB (and unlike what woodbuck is trying to suggest), he did not try to manipulate the front office, fans or those around him except to maximize his contract." pbmax

pbmax ... Produce the post (s) where I insinuate manipulation on behalf of Greg Jennings in any direction or regard. I did no such thing.

I took your earlier cryptic posts as (partially) a charge that Jennings had been trying to arrange his own ouster, making sure the Packers did not publicly make such an offer to resign him that he would look ungrateful turning it down to leave.

If that was not implied by your posts, then I retract the charge.

As for the QB mentioned in the other thought, I sent you a PM so the thread doesn't get off on a tangent.

[King Friday]

I believe that Greg Jennings believes he got that for himself and his family on Friday March 15, 2013. When he was introduced as a Minnesota Viking.

Except for the fact that he turned down an offer to remain with Green Bay...in a better offense, with a better QB, with more commercial exposure...for MORE money.

So, how is his current situation "the best"?

[woodbuck27]

Except for the fact that he turned down an offer to remain with Green Bay...in a better offense, with a better QB, with more commercial exposure...for MORE money.

So, how is his current situation "the best"?

Easy to answer Packer fan.

That's Greg Jennings business and 'only' his and his familys affair.

Show me the evidence that Greg Jennings received less money than what the Green Bay Packers had on the table for him; or the final offer he was given.

Greg Jennings reports clearly that he refused offers fr. the Packers exceeding $10 million$ made last summer and last fall. The last offer on the Packers table was below those offers according to Greg Jennings.

http://espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=7371&is_corp=1

" Greg Jennings had his chance. Quietly, according to an NFL source, the Green Bay Packers had twice offered him deals worth more than $10 million per year, both in the summer and in the fall. Both times, the Packers’ No. 1 wide receiver had said thanks, but no thanks.

So when the Minnesota Vikings showed him the money on Friday – less money than was on the table from the Packers then, but more than they were offering now, according to an NFL source – Jennings took it." Fr. LINK

GO PACK GO !

[Guiness]

Same with me....so far.

I wanted to buya Finley jersey three years ago and then he hurt his knee so I waited. Then he got a case of the dropsee and the Pack didn't extend him to the long-term deal I was sure he would get. Still sitting on my wallet waiting to pounce.

Anyone want an unworn 2004 Favre Pro Bowl jersey?

Bought it cheap in '07...seemed like a good idea?

[KYPack]

Anyone want an unworn 2004 Favre Pro Bowl jersey?

Bought it cheap in '07...seemed like a good idea?

I have 3-4 of 'em in the closet.

Kept getting 'em for Christmas from friends & family.

I even got one of 'em that I modified into a "Havner" jersey.

[pittstang5]

Easy to answer Packer fan.

That's Greg Jennings business and 'only' his and his familys affair.

Show me the evidence that Greg Jennings received less money than what the Green Bay Packers had on the table for him; or the final offer he was given.

Greg Jennings reports clearly that he refused offers fr. the Packers exceeding $10 million$ made last summer and last fall. The last offer on the Packers table was below those offers according to Greg Jennings.

http://espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&id=7371&is_corp=1

" Greg Jennings had his chance. Quietly, according to an NFL source, the Green Bay Packers had twice offered him deals worth more than $10 million per year, both in the summer and in the fall. Both times, the Packers’ No. 1 wide receiver had said thanks, but no thanks.

So when the Minnesota Vikings showed him the money on Friday – less money than was on the table from the Packers then, but more than they were offering now, according to an NFL source – Jennings took it." Fr. LINK

GO PACK GO !

If that's true, then Jennings truly wanted out of GB. No way he turns down that kind of dough then gambles on, MAYBE, a mil or two more with another team if he hits FA. Yep, he wanted out. I have seen the light. GJ is dead to me.

[woodbuck27]

I took your earlier cryptic posts as (partially) a charge that Jennings had been trying to arrange his own ouster, making sure the Packers did not publicly make such an offer to resign him that he would look ungrateful turning it down to leave.

If that was not implied by your posts, then I retract the charge.

As for the QB mentioned in the other thought, I sent you a PM so the thread doesn't get off on a tangent.

Hi pbmax:

" I took your earlier cryptic posts as (partially) a charge that Jennings had been trying to arrange his own ouster, making sure the Packers did not publicly make such an offer to resign him that he would look ungrateful turning it down to leave.

If that was not implied by your posts, then I retract the charge."pbmax

The information I was refering to had zero to do with contracts and or money and Greg Jennings.

I will elaborate on my specific finding. I will not go further than this:

We all sometimes make a statement or can be somehow connected to a statement that doesn't reflect our truest feelings even moments after it gets out there. In such cases we simply exercise good judgement in retracting that statement or declaring it completely false or otherwise invalid.

Greg Jennings did 'just that'. He made a retraction.

I believe it was innoscent of any maliscious intent.

GO PACK GO !

[pbmax]

If that's true, then Jennings truly wanted out of GB. No way he turns down that kind of dough then gambles on, MAYBE, a mil or two more with another team if he hits FA. Yep, he wanted out. I have seen the light. GJ is dead to me.

Too many unknowns to say this for certain. How many years was the offer? 2, 3, maybe 5? How much was guaranteed? How much upfront, how much in the first three years?

And the most important question of all: when in the fall was the last offer made? Pre-injury or post-injury?

Jennings might still have harbored dreams of a Vincent Jackson payday after his injury, but that is much harder to accept after he missed significant time.

[pittstang5]

To many unknowns to say this for certain. How many years was the offer? 2, 3, maybe 5? How much was guaranteed? How much upfront, how much in the first three years?

And the most important question of all: when in the fall was the last offer made? Pre-injury or post-injury?

Jennings might still have harbored dreams of a Vincent Jackson payday after his injury, but that is much harder to accept after he missed significant time.

True, there are always unknowns, but i'm really starting to think the evidence supports GJ on his way out more than resigning. but it sounds like packers made an offer, Jennings said no thanks....twice. No talk or negotiations? No counter offer? maybe they did and we never heard about it, but you would think IF they were at least talking, something would have been leaked out at some point.

[Joemailman]

I think Jennings wanted to get paid like a #1 WR. To do that, he had to be a #1 WR, and that wasn't necessarily going to happen in Green Bay. He needed to go someplace where he was "the guy", not one of the group. When the Vikings traded Harvin, that was a huge stroke of good fortune for him, and his ticket was probably punched for Minnesota at that point.

[Patler]

I suspect last summer/fall GJ was hoping for more than $10M. Then, after GJ spent a good part of the season on the injured list, and Cobb really stepped up, the Packers were no longer willing to pay the $10M or even very close to it. Jennings may feel slighted if the Packers actually came back and said, "Then was then, now is now. Here's a new offer for $7M/year."

Jennings guessed wrong when $10M was on the table from GB, and the Packers probably are glad he did.