The top 10 Green Bay Packers 1st round Draft selections

[Guiness]

I won't argue that. Of course that error was easy to spot (maybe?) for most Packer fans. See my post.

My point is that because of that error. Which by the way is moot in terms of the authors list. The article in terms of the authors overall effort shouldn't be poo-poo'd.

It's another 'top ten list' merely open for improvement via discussion.

Noone here at Packerrats has to agree with it after some study. Without it or other articles what do we have to discuss or form consensus on?

Not moot because the article loses a lot of credibility if it is obvious that there was no fact checking done. That one is easily picked out...but how many other inaccuracies are there? The result is that the entire article is not taken seriously...not that anything inspired by a David Letterman skit ever should be!

[woodbuck27]

Not moot because the article loses a lot of credibility if it is obvious that there was no fact checking done. That one is easily picked out...but how many other inaccuracies are there? The result is that the entire article is not taken seriously...not that anything inspired by a David Letterman skit ever should be!

I have 'in fact' checked out the facts of the article and overall they are solid. I maintain that the error of which we are discussing is moot as Brett Favre isn't eligible for the list. The fact of his draft staus is therefore irrelevant and being human I cut the author a break in terms of his error.

Did the author nail down the correct top ten. I have a different perspective on that.

Therein lies the exercise.

[KYPack]

Wasn't Hornung used as a single-wing whatever the QB is in that offense before Lombardi told him he would be the halfback?

Paul is a bona fide NFL HOFer. The people that denigrate his HOF status are youngbloods who simply look at the numbers and didn't see him play. Deacon Jones, a HOF DE for the Rams bad raps a lot of players. I just saw a segment on NFL network that named Paul the most versatile player in NFL history (Sammy Baugh was #2). Deacon lauded Paul for his running, passing, kicking, pass catching and blocking ability. Deac stated that a big reason for Taylor's success was that Hornung was such a punishing blocker. HOF players from that time all accept Paul as a legit superstar fully deserving of Canton.

Paul could do things that I've yet to see duplicated by contemporary players. Nobody could run the option play like Paul. Now everybody is jerking off over the read option. The famous Lombardi sweep was the read option of that time. Paul could run it to perfection. if the defense came up too rapidly, Paul could fire a perfectly aimed spiral, right on rhythmn to a cutting receiver. RB's tossing the option now look like they are hurling grenades. Hornung threw like a passer. Inside the 20, Paul was also lethal. He would time blocks perfectly and make really quick wide cuts to get in the end zone. In '60, he scored 176 points in 12 games! That's over 14 points a game.

Really, the only controversy over Paul's HOF election was bc of the '63 gambling suspension. With all the guys that have had trouble over dope & what-not in the Hall, Paul looks like a choirboy in comparison.

Hornung is in the HOF where he belongs.

[Patler]

Paul is a bona fide NFL HOFer. The people that denigrate his HOF status are youngbloods who simply look at the numbers and didn't see him play. Deacon Jones, a HOF DE for the Rams bad raps a lot of players. I just saw a segment on NFL network that named Paul the most versatile player in NFL history (Sammy Baugh was #2). Deacon lauded Paul for his running, passing, kicking, pass catching and blocking ability. Deac stated that a big reason for Taylor's success was that Hornung was such a punishing blocker. HOF players from that time all accept Paul as a legit superstar fully deserving of Canton.

Paul could do things that I've yet to see duplicated by contemporary players. Nobody could run the option play like Paul. Now everybody is jerking off over the read option. The famous Lombardi sweep was the read option of that time. Paul could run it to perfection. if the defense came up too rapidly, Paul could fire a perfectly aimed spiral, right on rhythmn to a cutting receiver. RB's tossing the option now look like they are hurling grenades. Hornung threw like a passer. Inside the 20, Paul was also lethal. He would time blocks perfectly and make really quick wide cuts to get in the end zone. In '60, he scored 176 points in 12 games! That's over 14 points a game.

Really, the only controversy over Paul's HOF election was bc of the '63 gambling suspension. With all the guys that have had trouble over dope & what-not in the Hall, Paul looks like a choirboy in comparison.

Hornung is in the HOF where he belongs.

I think people forget what a staple the halfback option was for the Packers under Lombardi. Hornung, Tom Moore and Elijah Pitts were all capable of throwing off the sweep, and one of them did at least once a game or so, it seemed.

[woodbuck27]

It takes time to do a Top Ten List like this.

It's alot to do with the criteria that you may choose to use to determine such a ranking. So different results from different people.

Aaron Rodgers already has a place on this top ten. In four more seasons if it goes well for him healthwise. Clay Matthews III will deserve a spot. Considering the great history of the Green Bay Packers. That speaks mountains for these two fine players and the team we're enjoying at present.

A few comments:

** The fella that heads the list (Herb Adderly) is ranked in the top 60 players in Pro Football over the last 6 decades plus, according to a source.

** One of my top five (Dave Robinson) has just been selected to the NFL HOF (2013)

** Three of these players are in the Pro Football HOF. I almost included another NFL HOFer or Paul Hornung but decided to go in a different direction. I wrestled with that decision.

** Nine of these players are in the Green Bay Packer HOF.

** There wasn't alot to pick from in ranking spots 5 thru 10.

Many Packer fan Top Ten Lists will include my honourable mentions: NFL HOFer and the Golden Boy Paul Hornung and the once heir apparant to the great Green Bay Packers guards Jerry Kramer and Fuzzy Thurston, Gail Gillingham. No ... he couldn't replace both of them.

Paul Hornung:

http://packershalloffame.com/players/paul-hornung/

Gale Gillingham:

http://packershalloffame.com/players/gale-gillingham/

My TOP TEN First Round Draft Picks of the Green Bay Packers:

1. CB - Herb Adderly

NFL Draft: 1961 Round: 1 Pick: 12 ... Green Bay Packers (1961-1969)

Pro Football Hall of Fame (1980)

5× Pro Bowl selection (1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967); 4× First Team All-Pro selection (1962, 1963, 1965, 1966); 3× Second Team All-Pro selection (1964, 1967, 1968); 6× NFL Champion (1961, 1962, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1971); 3× Super Bowl Champion (I, II, VI); NFL 1960s All-Decade Team and The first name in the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame.

http://packershalloffame.com/players/herb-adderely/

2. WR - James Lofton

NFL Draft: 1978 Round: 1 Pick: 6 ... Green Bay Packers (1978–1986)

Pro Football Hall of Fame (2003)

8× Pro Bowl selection (1978, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1991); 4× First-team All-Pro selection (1980, 1981, 1983, 1984); 2× Second-team All-Pro selection (1982, 1985); All-Rookie Team
(1978); NFL 1980s All-Decade Team and Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

http://packershalloffame.com/players/james-lofton/

3. LB - Dave Robinson

NFL Draft: 1963 Round: 1 Pick: 14 ... Green Bay Packers 1963-72

Pro Football Hall of Fame (2013)

AP, NEA and UPI 1st Team All-Pro (1967); NEA and UPI 1st Team All-Pro (1968); AP and PFWA 2nd Team All-Pro (1968); NEA, Pro Football Weekly, The Sporting News and UPI 1st Team All-Pro (1969); PFWA 2nd Team All-Pro (1969); NFL 1960s All-Decade Team; 3× NFL Champion (1965, 1966, 1967);
2× Super Bowl Champion (I, II) and Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

http://packershalloffame.com/players/dave-robinson/

4. QB Aaron Rodgers

NFL Draft: 2005 Round: 1 Pick: 24... Green Bay Packers 2005 - Present

3× Pro Bowl (2009, 2011, 2012); First-team All-Pro (2011); Second-team All-Pro (2012);
AP NFL MVP (2011); Super Bowl champion (XLV); Super Bowl MVP (XLV); NFC champion (2010);
Single season QB Passer Rating record (122.5); Associated Press Athlete of the Year (2011);FedEx Air NFL Player of the Year (2010); First-team All-Pac-10 (2004); Highest career passer rating
in NFL history (104.9); Highest career completion percentage in NFL history (65.7%).


5. LB - Fred Carr

NFL Draft: 1968 Round: 1 Pick 5 ... Green Bay Packers 1968-77.

Pro Bowls: 3; Pro Bowl Co-MVP (1970) and Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

Do you remember Fred Carr? If you do that's why I placed that man here.

http://packershalloffame.com/players/fred-carr/

6. WR - Sterling Sharpe

NFL Draft: 1988 Round: 1 Pick: 7 ... Green Bay Packers 1988-94.

5× Pro Bowl selection (1989, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994); 3× All-Pro1st team selection 2 2nd team (1989, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994); Led NFL in receptions in 1989, 1992, and 1993;
Led NFL in receiving TDs in 1992 and 1994 and Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

Career NFL statistics:

595 Receptions; 8,134 Yards receiving and 65 TD's. Mad numbers for his short time in the NFL. The best WR I've ever seen.

http://packershalloffame.com/players/sterling-sharpe/

7. CB - Willie Buchanon

NFL Draft: 1972 Round: 1 Pick: 7 ... Green Bay Packers 1972-78

3× Pro Bowl selection (1973, 1974, 1978); 1× All-Pro selection (1978); 1972 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year and San Diego Chargers 50th Anniversary Team and Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

http://packershalloffame.com/players/willie-buchanon/

8. LB - Dan Currie

NFL Draft: 1958 Round: 1 Pick 3 ... Green Bay Packers 1958-64

Overshadowed by three other outstanding Packer contributors in the 1958 draft. Hofers FB Jim Taylor, LB Ray Nitschke and the great Green Bay Packers Guard of the 1960's Jerry Kramer. Dan Currie held his own overall in his NFL career. He's certainly not on the lips of many Packer fans when we discuss 'the greats' but I appreciated his play.

He was a 2 X Pro Bowler and is a member of the Green Bay Packers HOF.

http://packershalloffame.com/players/dan-currie/

9. LB - John Anderson

NFL Draft: 1978 Round: 1 Pick: 26 ... Green Bay Packers 1978-1989

NFL 1980s All-Decade Team and Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

http://packershalloffame.com/players/john-anderson/

10. RB - Donny Anderson

NFL Draft: 1965 Round: 1 Pick: 7 ... Green Bay Packers 1966-71

Modest Career Records with 1 Pro Bowl and the Green Bay Packers HOF. He was still special.

http://packershalloffame.com/players/donny-anderson/

GO PACK GO!

[Smidgeon]

Paul is a bona fide NFL HOFer. The people that denigrate his HOF status are youngbloods who simply look at the numbers and didn't see him play. Deacon Jones, a HOF DE for the Rams bad raps a lot of players. I just saw a segment on NFL network that named Paul the most versatile player in NFL history (Sammy Baugh was #2). Deacon lauded Paul for his running, passing, kicking, pass catching and blocking ability. Deac stated that a big reason for Taylor's success was that Hornung was such a punishing blocker. HOF players from that time all accept Paul as a legit superstar fully deserving of Canton.

Paul could do things that I've yet to see duplicated by contemporary players. Nobody could run the option play like Paul. Now everybody is jerking off over the read option. The famous Lombardi sweep was the read option of that time. Paul could run it to perfection. if the defense came up too rapidly, Paul could fire a perfectly aimed spiral, right on rhythmn to a cutting receiver. RB's tossing the option now look like they are hurling grenades. Hornung threw like a passer. Inside the 20, Paul was also lethal. He would time blocks perfectly and make really quick wide cuts to get in the end zone. In '60, he scored 176 points in 12 games! That's over 14 points a game.

Really, the only controversy over Paul's HOF election was bc of the '63 gambling suspension. With all the guys that have had trouble over dope & what-not in the Hall, Paul looks like a choirboy in comparison.

Hornung is in the HOF where he belongs.

Thanks for the history lesson. These are why I continue to read PR. Well, these and the scheme breakdowns...

[Fritz]

Paul is a bona fide NFL HOFer. The people that denigrate his HOF status are youngbloods who simply look at the numbers and didn't see him play. Deacon Jones, a HOF DE for the Rams bad raps a lot of players. I just saw a segment on NFL network that named Paul the most versatile player in NFL history (Sammy Baugh was #2). Deacon lauded Paul for his running, passing, kicking, pass catching and blocking ability. Deac stated that a big reason for Taylor's success was that Hornung was such a punishing blocker. HOF players from that time all accept Paul as a legit superstar fully deserving of Canton.

Paul could do things that I've yet to see duplicated by contemporary players. Nobody could run the option play like Paul. Now everybody is jerking off over the read option. The famous Lombardi sweep was the read option of that time. Paul could run it to perfection. if the defense came up too rapidly, Paul could fire a perfectly aimed spiral, right on rhythmn to a cutting receiver. RB's tossing the option now look like they are hurling grenades. Hornung threw like a passer. Inside the 20, Paul was also lethal. He would time blocks perfectly and make really quick wide cuts to get in the end zone. In '60, he scored 176 points in 12 games! That's over 14 points a game.

Really, the only controversy over Paul's HOF election was bc of the '63 gambling suspension. With all the guys that have had trouble over dope & what-not in the Hall, Paul looks like a choirboy in comparison.

Hornung is in the HOF where he belongs.

Maybe Wayne Simmons in '93 should be considered? Or John Brockington in '71, although he got injured after a few hard core years?

I'd type more but I'm only using one hand. The other one is occupied as I think about the read-option...

[woodbuck27]

Maybe Wayne Simmons in '93 should be considered? Or John Brockington in '71, although he got injured after a few hard core years?

I'd type more but I'm only using one hand. The other one is occupied as I think about the read-option...

Wayne Simmons. I liked him alot.

Some men die young.

How about Vonnie Holiday? If he had remained a Packer for a few more seasons I'm sure that he would have made or been very close to making my list. The 'almost' emergence of Cletidus Hunt and having a young Aaron Kampman led to Vonnie Holiday and this:

http://www.nfl.com/player/vonnieholliday/2501208/profile

[pbmax]

Maybe Wayne Simmons in '93 should be considered? Or John Brockington in '71, although he got injured after a few hard core years?

I'd type more but I'm only using one hand. The other one is occupied as I think about the read-option...

Still one of my favorite Packer moments was Wayne throttling the entire San Fran offense in that playoff game in 94 or 95. Just treated Brent Jones like a rag doll. I can't imagine how insane he must have been in the locker room prior to game.

[Fritz]

He was a mad man. I think sometimes the Packers could use a legitimate "crazy" on defense. Wayne Simmons, Ted "The Stork" Hendricks, somebody like that.

[Iron Mike]

[KYPack]

Wayne "Big Money" Simmons was a true badass crazy man.

Once Favre was doing one of his long rambling interviews. The subject of Simmons came up and Favre said, "I was scared of him, but so was everybody".

[Fritz]

Damn that was great to watch, Mikey. Thanks. AJ Hawk would never do that, but maybe Bishop?

[sharpe1027]

Still one of my favorite Packer moments was Wayne throttling the entire San Fran offense in that playoff game in 94 or 95. Just treated Brent Jones like a rag doll. I can't imagine how insane he must have been in the locker room prior to game.

Brent Jones got absolutely destroyed. It was awesome.

[Iron Mike]

Got three hours to kill???