Derek Sherrod Health Speculation

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It took Mike Flanagan over 2 years to return from a similar injury so I think it is rather premature to write him off just yet. This upcoming draft will tell us a lot if TT uses another high pick on a tackle. If he does then Sherrod's injury is worse than they are letting on.

yup, if he goes LT, OLB, or S, that should tell us all we need to know about just how much confidence the team has in sherrod, perry and Mcmillian

also, if we go ILB or TE, i think it tells us that this is probably hawk or finley's last year

[Pugger]

I don't think they have a problem with Perry but I do hope we draft a safety. I'm not all that crazy about any of the guys we have back there right now. I doubt we'll draft a TE high unless one of the top ones falls but ILB wouldn't be a bad idea. Hawk is steady eddy but not much else.

[woodbuck27]

Bell might need to get a bit stronger to carry's Monte's Jock Strap

I'll take that as a NAY !!

[Joemailman]

Calling BS on this. The reports from the JSO and GBPG guys were that Sherrod was noticeably limping and laboring when he came off PUP last year. Certainly didn't sound like a guy who had it together physically but couldn't pass the mental barriers.

It's hard to say. MM was king of vague last November about what was holding Sherrod back.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...179764651.html

Sherrod, a first-round draft choice in 2011, moved gingerly through drills during the individual portion of practice. There were signs of a slight limp when he tried to run.

It has been 10 months since Sherrod underwent emergency surgery in Kansas City to repair the broken tibia and fibula in his right leg. The Packers described it as a "clean" break, but he doesn't appear even close to being able to participate in 11-on-11 drills.

"Well, I don't want to give up on Derek," coach Mike McCarthy said Friday. "We're taking baby steps. I think it's obvious if you've had a chance to watch him work."

"I will say this," McCarthy said. "Just watching him a couple weeks ago and watching him go through the individual (Friday), I think he's made some strides. He has that last hurdle he has to get over. This is the kind of drill work that he needs, to be in pads and go through the individual stuff."

[woodbuck27]

I'll give him one more year before his name changes from Justine to Fruitcake

Roger Staffold.............that would be a dam nice LT for somebody and good chance he could be had for a 2nd rounder at this point........of course......the team would have to pay him

and .... what are you talking about?

There's no $$$money$$$ for honey...honey.

[Smeefers]

The year we drafted DS is the year I joined pack rats. Surprisingly, I also called it that we'd draft him. This is the one and only time that's ever happened. So, seeing as I have so much personally invested in the lug, I can't throw him out just yet. He gets another year as far as I'm concerned, but I am worried. He played very poorly early. He was always considered a prospect pick. When we got him, we still had cliffy. He was going to take a little bit to learn and then when Cliff rolled out, he'd take over. Unfortunately he hasn't spent any of this time perfecting his craft. If he's as good as he was 2 years ago, it might not be worth keeping ahold of him.

[pbmax]

That practice report Joe has was how I remembered it. I could not understand what the Packers were hoping to gain from letting him practice if he was still limping as it seemed likely he was not going to be game ready much less active. I was hoping he would, but it didn't seem likely after he hit the field.

Seeing it as part of his rehab makes sense. Thompson never announces moves until he has to so perhaps this was just normal business. Perhaps there is a benefit to not having him on IR as far as practice options go.

But the notion he was completely, physically healthy is news to me.

As for the points about beating out a Guard as a rookie, I think this is barking up the wrong tree. Sherrod is, was and always will be a Left Tackle. Putting him at guard is like racing your Lambo at a dirt track. Performing poorly there could be seen as a knock on him, but then I want you to envision Chad Clifton and Ken Ruettgers at Guard. It wouldn't be pretty.

Newhouse is the poor fit here. His body type says Guard. His strength, feet and playing style say Tackle. His results say backup.

Sherrod spent camp competing at a position with a better option for that spot (Lang) and moved exclusively to Tackle late. By then, in his Year 2, Newhouse was ahead. The musical chairs McCarthy and Campen play here works to Sherrod's disadvantage. While versatility is important on the line, Sherrod would be the last to move in case of injury as a prototype Left Tackle. The rotation also serves players like Newhouse, Bulaga, Colledge and Lang better because they naturally fit two positions.

But as you can see from that list, versatility doesn't make the guy the best option to start. Does anyone want Colledge and Newhouse to start for the Packers in 2013 because they are versatile? No. This is thinking that you love your crazy, gritty and short utility infielders so much that you will start ALL utility infielders on the dirt. Great. You will lead the League in intangibles and versatility while losing all the other battles like on-base, power, defense and run production.

Clifton was there and not even a first round pick was going to unseat him unless he was injured. Newhouse had no other position (maybe RT?) to practice at. Sherrod almost had to play Guard to get snaps in camp. That I understand. To judge him a failure because of that performance is problematic.

The only issue is health. If he is not healthy, nothing else matters. If he can hit the field, then all other questions get answered.

[RashanGary]

Newhouse wins. Its going to take sherrod a full offseason and part of the reg season to get caught up physically and mentally. Newhouse will be stronger, more agile and have the biggest mental edge of his career heading into his contract season. and hes about the same age, with years of offseason / in season training over ds. If ds wins that battle, im both shocked and pleased. Doubt it tho. Highly doubt it.

[RashanGary]

Newhouse just proves people wrong. too this, too that. All he does is get better and he does it under fire.

[woodbuck27]

Newhouse just proves people wrong. too this, too that. All he does is get better and he does it under fire.

Hey... where have you been?

We need your input here JH. It's nice to see you post Packer fan.

GO PACK GO !

[pittstang5]

Newhouse wins. Its going to take sherrod a full offseason and part of the reg season to get caught up physically and mentally. Newhouse will be stronger, more agile and have the biggest mental edge of his career heading into his contract season. and hes about the same age, with years of offseason / in season training over ds. If ds wins that battle, im both shocked and pleased. Doubt it tho. Highly doubt it.

I agree. I can't see DS coming in and just taking over the LT spot. Alot of fans are wishing that happens and even going as far as to believing that will happen - but you know the old saying, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other...

Unless TT picks up a LT in FA or by some miracle, drafts one of the top three LTs in the draft (not going to happen, but humor me), Newhouse is going to start and Sherrod will be a back up at LT and maybe even RT. Like JH said, DS is behind mentally and physically - the cards are not in his favor.

I'll throw another name into this LT competition. Datko. He could be competition for the back-up LT spot too. He didn't fair that well in pre-season, but maybe a year of off-season training - he might show something too.

[Guiness]

yup, if he goes LT, OLB, or S, that should tell us all we need to know about just how much confidence the team has in sherrod, perry and Mcmillian

also, if we go ILB or TE, i think it tells us that this is probably hawk or finley's last year

I disagree.

Outside of RB, there isn't a glaring need on this team. If the Pack drafts a tackle, it tells me one thing: the highest rated player on the board when their pick came up was a tackle. No more, no less.

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I disagree.

Outside of RB, there isn't a glaring need on this team. If the Pack drafts a tackle, it tells me one thing: the highest rated player on the board when their pick came up was a tackle. No more, no less.

our last 4 first round picks have brought 2 OT's and 2 OLB. we needed 2 OT's and 2 OLB's

if we spend yet another first rounder on either one of those positions, i would be worried we're entering matt millen land

first rounders HAVE to be starters, especially when all we use to build is the draft. we can't afford to be taking guys in the first just to be contributers, and if we draft a third guy in the first to be a OLB or OT thats exactly what we'd be doing

[Joemailman]

Newhouse just proves people wrong. too this, too that. All he does is get better and he does it under fire.

I give Newhouse credit for being a battler and for being able to stay healthy. But with Sherrod on the sidelines, he's pretty much won the job so far by default. The last 2 years, he's been the best we have, but he's not really very good as a LT. Sherrod and Datko both have more potential as a LT than Newhouse if they can get, and stay healthy.

[swede]

The year we drafted DS is the year I joined pack rats. Surprisingly, I also called it that we'd draft him. This is the one and only time that's ever happened. So, seeing as I have so much personally invested in the lug, I can't throw him out just yet. He gets another year as far as I'm concerned, but I am worried. He played very poorly early. He was always considered a prospect pick. When we got him, we still had cliffy. He was going to take a little bit to learn and then when Cliff rolled out, he'd take over. Unfortunately he hasn't spent any of this time perfecting his craft. If he's as good as he was 2 years ago, it might not be worth keeping ahold of him.

We didn't get a chance in our forum draft because I had Pittsburgh take him just a few picks in front of us.