2008-2010 Draft Grader

[Fritz]

When TT has taken a swing at a great pitch he has had some very solid hits (Woodson/Pickett)

When TT has taken some half swings at crappy pitches he hasn't had many hits

Most of the time TT just looks at the pitches...sometimes he's called out and other times he walks

But he always has a decent team

Decent? That's faint praise, Bretsky, for a team that's been in the playoffs what, four years running and has won a SB much more recently than your hooded "genius"?

[Bretsky]

Decent? That's faint praise, Bretsky, for a team that's been in the playoffs what, four years running and has won a SB much more recently than your hooded "genius"?

The comment was not meant as a cut to TT so I'm hoping most of the homers realized that

I'd stand by my comment. By not taking a bunch of chances...aka...swinging for the fence....making good draft picks.....TT assures us of at least being decent.

Elite was what Hoody Genius did; every team strives to do the same and if you want to annoint sombebody new the only team who can lay any claim to being elite since Hoody are the Giants

Many aruge the goal should be to be decent every year, hope luck falls your way, and you occasionaly win the big show

Years ago a guy named Texaspackerbacker, in between calling the entire forum idiots, kept noting that continuously. Maybe he was right

[KYPack]

The comment was not meant as a cut to TT so I'm hoping most of the homers realized that

I'd stand by my comment. By not taking a bunch of chances...aka...swinging for the fence....making good draft picks.....TT assures us of at least being decent.

Elite was what Hoody Genius did; every team strives to do the same and if you want to annoint sombebody new the only team who can lay any claim to being elite since Hoody are the Giants

Many aruge the goal should be to be decent every year, hope luck falls your way, and you occasionaly win the big show

Years ago a guy named Texaspackerbacker, in between calling the entire forum idiots, kept noting that continuously. Maybe he was right

Nice Tex mention, B-Man.

Tex was pretty staunch in his views, but there was some method to his madness.

TPB was the ultimate homer, for instance.

[Bretsky]

Nice Tex mention, B-Man.

Tex was pretty staunch in his views, but there was some method to his madness.

TPB was the ultimate homer, for instance.

Gotta admit I miss him in a deranged sort of way

Sometimes I felt left out and would confront him and make an off the mark rant to something he thought just to get him to call me a moron or f'ckin idiot so I'd feel part of the gang

Now politics, no dam way I was getting into that crap with him.

I had hunted him down to get him to join CE a while back. Wonder where the dude is; somebody should go on a mission to find him

[swede]

If you are thinking of the Tex I am thinking about he was here for a while, right?

3,500 posts--last one in May of 2009.

Common belief is that he up and died.

[George Cumby]

If you are thinking of the Tex I am thinking about he was here for a while, right?

3,500 posts--last one in May of 2009.

Common belief is that he up and died.

Bummer

[pbmax]

It was a bummer, especially when Tennessee Packer Backer kept getting referred to as TPB and I thought Tex had come back. Screen names are terrible.

[3irty1]

The comment was not meant as a cut to TT so I'm hoping most of the homers realized that

I'd stand by my comment. By not taking a bunch of chances...aka...swinging for the fence....making good draft picks.....TT assures us of at least being decent.

Elite was what Hoody Genius did; every team strives to do the same and if you want to annoint sombebody new the only team who can lay any claim to being elite since Hoody are the Giants

Many aruge the goal should be to be decent every year, hope luck falls your way, and you occasionaly win the big show

Years ago a guy named Texaspackerbacker, in between calling the entire forum idiots, kept noting that continuously. Maybe he was right

Also probably the Steelers and Colts. They've both been to the big game as many times as the Pats in that span from the same conference. Those teams never "swing for the fence" either. I think your theory needs some work.

I also challenge the idea that the draft is "not taking a bunch of chances." You can very much swing for the fence in the draft. If that's not what Washington did to get RGIII then what do you call it? Draft prospects can be just as risky or safe as FA, the risk isn't monetary but its still just as real--possibly even more real since a wasted draft pick is a wasted opportunity whereas a missed FA is just a cap burden for a year. Last year with our first round pick TT had a choice between Nick Perry and Courtney Upshaw, taking the high potential Perry over the very safe Upshaw is a much better example of "swinging for the fences" than signing other teams castoffs IMO.

[smuggler]

Taking 'safe' players lead us to take AJ Hawk. Safe is just another method of being disappointing.

[Zool]

Taking 'safe' players lead us to take AJ Hawk. Safe is just another method of being disappointing.

Are you more disappointed in Hawk or Jamal Reynolds? Raji or Harrell?

The draft is as big of a crap shoot as FA. Names in FA just costs your team a roster spot and big $.

[smuggler]

I wasn't advocating FA. I know there are many methods of disappointment. I'd prefer to take a risk on a special player than to take a slightly more 'safe' risk on a player that will be merely solid.

[Fritz]

Sometimes it pays off (Clay Matthews) and sometimes it doesn't (Jamaal Reynolds).

But the Reynolds pick may be a better lesson as to what happens when you try to pick for need. That's what Reynolds was. Same with Wolf's draft in which he drafted three cornerbacks in a row, having only one - his third rounder (I think Mike Mckenzie was the third) - work out. Although as we all know, he did salvage one other one - his second rounder, Fred Something, was sent packing to Seattle for some running back with reputed fumbling problems. Ahman Something or other.

[smuggler]

Antuaan Edwards was actually a good player, though, and only failed due to injury. Even still, he was good enough to trade for Ahman Green.

[Patler]

Antuaan Edwards was actually a good player, though, and only failed due to injury. Even still, he was good enough to trade for Ahman Green.

Wasn't Fred Vinson the guy who was traded for Green?
Edwards actually also became a decent player, but then disappeared after injuries set in.

[pbmax]

It was Vinson who was traded. Edwards could have been a good safety but as a CB, he was limited in the Packers defense.