Pack hosting RFA NT from the Steelers

[Joemailman]

Maybe like Pittsburg Steelers fans the light finally came on Patler. Like the fans the Steelers brass saw that man's true value in him not becoming a Green Bay Packer? I can't tell you just how much I garner by reading that fans side of anything. Maybe the Pittsburg Steelers Brass read the fans appeals...the fans concerns....regarding NT Steve McGlendon.

The fans often know.

PACKERS !

Any GM who makes decisions based on fan appeals will soon be one of the fans.

[woodbuck27]

Ya, he sure has been a disappointment so far. It would just be nice if the Packers could benefit from a huge "contract year" effort before he leaves. But, then everyone will be clamoring for the Packers to re-sign him. I don't expect him back either way.

Same with Raji. Probably gets priced out of GB regardless of how he plays. I just want someone more consistent than he has been. Maybe he won't garner the interest I think he will, and will return for a much smaller contract than I expect.

No Patler just get here ! Is this so difficult?

Has there been any serious talk and BJ Raji and contract re-newal? Something in that regard that's concrete besides that 'Big Three' prognostications. That 'Big Three' looks like much less than a triangle.

It's not happening. That for good reason and BJ Raji.

Simply cut bait on BJ Raji. Will a end of contract season motivate him? It's too late for that. No wait....TT's and MM's 'love affair' with Jermichael Finley.

There's two so called DLman that are seriously not eligible for longer terms with the Green Bay Packers and $market value$. It's obviously from my seat not working out.

They have got enough from the Green Bay Packers.

Do you go to the grocery store and 'pay a one third/ one half normal price', for moldy bread?

PACKERS !

[Patler]

I'd be a bit disappointed if TT said this is what we are thinking verbally. If they had him in would it be fair to assume we wanted him ?

If I wanted him my question would have been what will it take to get this done ?
If the number is right can we get this done ? If he says no then clearly we are a pawn

If we're going from the standpoint of this is what we are thinking it's pretty dam easy for other teams to use us.

If we put nothing down on paper, his agent and the player could tell Pittsburg anything, couldn't they ?

Sure the agent could say anything, but do you really think the GMs and contract guys don't talk to each other?
Maybe the Packers put an RFA offer sheet in front of him with all the figures on it, he picked it up and said "Thanks, I'll let you know."

The other side of this is this: I don't know if GMs or capologists perceive any negative impact from either making on the one hand (the Packers) or having to match on the other hand (the Steelers) an offer to a player tendered as an RFA. The Packers and Steelers have a long history of supporting one another, both publicly and behind the scenes. If either did perceive any sort of negative impact from a formally offer/match scenario, an informal approach wouldn't surprise me just because of the teams involved.

After all, when you try to get an RFA away from his former team, you are almost negotiating as much with the other team as you are with the player, since the team has the right to match the offer.

[Patler]

No Patler just get here ! Is this so difficult?

Has there been any serious talk and BJ Raji and contract re-newal? Something in that regard that's concrete besides that 'Big Three' prognostications. That 'Big Three' looks like much less than a triangle.

It's not happening. That for good reason and BJ Raji.

Simply cut bait on BJ Raji. Will a end of contract season motivate him? It's too late for that. No wait....TT's and MM's 'love affair' with Jermichael Finley.

There's two so called DLman that are seriously not eligible for longer terms with the Green Bay Packers and $market value$. It's obviously from my seat not working out.

They have got enough from the Green Bay Packers.

Do you go to the grocery store and 'pay a one third/ one half normal price', for moldy bread?

PACKERS !

See me previous post to you!

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck27;

I don't intend this to be sarcastic, argumentative or anything but honest, because you and I are both on here a lot. Please don't take this negatively:

One of the reasons I "ignore" you quite often is that I simply don't understand you. As a result our discussions become circular. I fear that we have reached that cross-road again!

I understood you to suggest in an earlier post that you believed TT likely offered no more than the vet minimum to McLendon. That would be something like $715,000. But, McLendon already had a tender from the Steelers for $1.323 million on a one year contract. Are you suggesting that TT wasn't prepared to offer something better than 1 year at $1.323 million?

Sure the classic I don't understand you. Don't simply see it...insult it.

Do you understand this Patler?

We don't know what TT offered Steve McLendon?

This was written on April 20, 2013.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-still-too-soft-to-be-favorites-td9klcm-203946331.html

Steve McLendon was in Green Bay on Wed. 17 April 2013 and out and signed the following day... Thursday 18 April 2013 to this Pittsburg Steeler offer:

A reported, three-year, $7.25 million contract that contained a $1.675 million signing bonus.

It seems to me that we're not even sure if TT made an offer to this man. Are we sure that TT made any offer Patler?

I'll go with your play Patler.

TT and Steve McLendon are on the phone as that seems normal to expect. TT confirms the minimum tender offer in that conversation or beforehand by available means. TT make an offer above that minumum tender offer.

If that's the case does Steve McLendon come to Green Bay to meet Ted Thompson and leave? He listens to Ted's offer that exceeds Pittsburgs minumum tender offer, on the telephone.

Comes into Green Bay last Wed. to sign the contract.

The 'only' way he comes in and leaves soon after, without signing is if TT lowballed him. The definition of lowballing from a personal perspective...'less than any man expects'.

I might say I get lowballed here. Except for this and posters like you. I've come to accept that I'll always get less that I expect. I handle that by not expecting very much.

I'm positive that any perspective I take opposite or somehow contrary to your's. Isn't always wrong. I don't have to be always the winner. Always the smartest. I just go with this fact.

I'm pretty damn smart.

PACKERS!

[pbmax]

Do you go to the grocery store and 'pay a one third/ one half normal price', for moldy bread?

I think calling Steve McClendon moldy bread is a little unfair. Stop gap is the preferred term.

[woodbuck27]

Any GM who makes decisions based on fan appeals will soon be one of the fans.

Well get this Joe:

In this study your wrong. The fans were entirely upset that the Steelers might lose Steve McLendon. It's all on the record as I found it...reported it.

I posted the fan reaction so posters here would see the value in Steve McLendon from their view. Thusly for us, value this possible signing.

PACKERS !

[pbmax]

If Steve McClendon preferred to stay with the Steelers, then there are far more reasons than a phantom or lowered Thompson contract offer to explain why McClendon would leave GB without signing a deal. Or the Steelers could have topped the packers offer.

Do you think Jarrett Bush was lowballed by the Titans and then came back to the Packers to sign an even more lucrative deal than his tender?

[woodbuck27]

I think calling Steve McClendon moldy bread is a little unfair. Stop gap is the preferred term.

That reference certainly wasn't in any form meant for Pittsburg Steeler NT Steve McLendon. Unfortunately I didn't have a chance as Packer fan to assess his talents, contributions or services.

It was in reference to present Green Bay Packers that often simply take up space on our DL, Roster and Salary CAP.

[pbmax]

Well get this Joe:

In this study your wrong. The fans were entirely upset that the Steelers might lose Steve McLendon. It's all on the record as I found it...reported it.

I posted the fan reaction so posters here would see the value in Steve McLendon from thie view and so value this possible signing.

PACKERS !

Because they had NO OTHER nose tackles on the roster! Not because he is Curly Culp revisited. Because he was all that was left since Casey Hampton had been let go.

[woodbuck27]

See me previous post to you!

There on top of your possible arrogance. Your disrespect is overwhelming me.

Geeeee.

[woodbuck27]

Because they had NO OTHER nose tackles on the roster! Not because he is Curly Culp revisited. Because he was all that was left since Casey Hampton had been let go.

When were the Pittsburg Steelers Brass going to realize that as the fans obviously and already did?

The issue was CAP space and clearly such to retain Steve Mclendon.

They darn well knew that if he went to Green Bay and returned for nothing. He would go elsewhere for something more that the Packers GM offered him or not.

I can claim this clearly. It was incumbant on TT to talk to that man before he left to travel to Green Bay and present a verbal offer.

Not anything like.

"Come on up to Green Bay Steve for a visit and a talk. We might be able to do something for you."

Steve McLendon had zero when he decided to check on Ted Thompson and not much more when he left.

PACKERS !

[Patler]

Sure the classic I don't understand you. Don't simply see it...insult it.

Do you understand this Patler?

We don't know what TT offered Steve McLendon?


This was written on April 20, 2013.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-still-too-soft-to-be-favorites-td9klcm-203946331.html

Steve McLendon was in Green Bay on Wed. 17 April 2013 and out and signed the following day... Thursday 18 April 2013 to this Pittsburg Steeler offer:

A reported, three-year, $7.25 million contract that contained a $1.675 million signing bonus.

It seems to me that we're not even sure if TT made an offer to this man. Are we sure that TT made any offer Patler?

I'll go with your play Patler.

TT and Steve McLendon are on the phone as that seems normal to expect. TT confirms the minimum tender offer in that conversation or beforehand by available means. TT make an offer above that minumum tender offer.

If that's the case does Steve McLendon come to Green Bay to meet Ted Thompson and leave? He listens to Ted's offer that exceeds Pittsburgs minumum tender offer, on the telephone.

Comes into Green Bay last Wed. to sign the contract.

The 'only' way he comes in and leaves soon after, without signing is if TT lowballed him. The definition of lowballing from a personal perspective...'less than any man expects'.

I might say I get lowballed here. Except for this and posters like you. I've come to accept that I'll always get less that I expect. I handle that by not expecting very much.

I'm positive that any perspective I take opposite or somehow contrary to your's. Isn't always wrong. I don't have to be always the winner. Always the smartest. I just go with this fact.

I'm pretty damn smart.

PACKERS!

I knew you would take it wrong.

It becomes apparent to me after a couple exchanges with you that I simply do not understand you, nor do you understand me; because our discussions never follow any logical advancement. As I wrote earlier, we just go around in circles. That's on both of us. We just do not communicate well with each other for whatever reason.

But, unlike you, I am not very smart; so I guess that explains it.

[rbaloha1]

SM would have been a nice acquisition for the right price.

After June I would cut Hawk and Tramon Williams.

[pbmax]

They [Steelers, I presume] darn well knew that if he went to Green Bay and returned for nothing. He would go elsewhere for something more that the Packers GM offered him or not.

I can claim this clearly.

You might be able to claim this clearly, but I have no idea what you mean. Please restate more plainly.