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  • #91
    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    When were the Pittsburg Steelers Brass going to realize that as the fans obviously and already did?

    The issue was CAP space and clearly such to retain Steve Mclendon.
    This is sensible. They were trying to get him for a song to help with their cap space. Plain enough.

    But then why suddenly sign him for much more than the minimum tender, with a bonus and all? What leverage produced a new Steelers offer?
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      Ya, he sure has been a disappointment so far. It would just be nice if the Packers could benefit from a huge "contract year" effort before he leaves. But, then everyone will be clamoring for the Packers to re-sign him. I don't expect him back either way.

      Same with Raji. Probably gets priced out of GB regardless of how he plays. I just want someone more consistent than he has been. Maybe he won't garner the interest I think he will, and will return for a much smaller contract than I expect.
      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
      No Patler just get here ! Is this so difficult?

      Has there been any serious talk and BJ Raji and contract re-newal? Something in that regard that's concrete besides that 'Big Three' prognostications. That 'Big Three' looks like much less than a triangle.

      It's not happening. That for good reason and BJ Raji.

      Simply cut bait on BJ Raji. Will a end of contract season motivate him? It's too late for that. No wait....TT's and MM's 'love affair' with Jermichael Finley.

      There's two so called DLman that are seriously not eligible for longer terms with the Green Bay Packers and $market value$. It's obviously from my seat not working out.

      They have got enough from the Green Bay Packers.

      Do you go to the grocery store and 'pay a one third/ one half normal price', for moldy bread?

      PACKERS !
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      See me previous post to you!
      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
      There on top of your possible arrogance. Your disrespect is overwhelming me.

      Geeeee.
      Well, then maybe you can answer this for me, do you realize that you and I have the same opinion on Raji, that he is unlikely to return to GB because he will seek and likely receive an offer from someone else far outweighing his value to GB?

      It is not clear from your post in which you quoted mine whether you were agreeing with me, or arguing with me. I had no clue how to answer. Maybe it was just the first and last sentences that confused me.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        This is sensible. They were trying to get him for a song to help with their cap space. Plain enough.

        But then why suddenly sign him for much more than the minimum tender, with a bonus and all? What leverage produced a new Steelers offer?
        My point exactly. Not only why, but how was it done so quickly?
        There was something more in play than just the RFA tender from Pittsburgh and a bare visit to Green Bay.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          I think that's right. We'll never know what the Packers offered, but it must have been for more money than his RFA tender. The likelihood is that the contract he signed with the Steelers is very similar to what the Packers offered.
          That's a GIANT LEAP in Ted Thompson faith.

          Which is it with you?

          We'll never know what the Packers offered, but it must have been for more money than his RFA tender. Joemailman

          A) We'll never know what the Packers offered?

          or

          B) It must have been for more money....than....

          Please choose just one of the above for us. It cannot be both ways.

          It's A) or B) !

          PACKERS !
          Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-21-2013, 02:42 PM.
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          • #95
            Actually Patler ....let's let it be as it must:

            You go ahead imagining that your correct.
            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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            • #96
              Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              I think that's right. We'll never know what the Packers offered, but it must have been for more money than his RFA tender. The likelihood is that the contract he signed with the Steelers is very similar to what the Packers offered.

              That's a GIANT LEAP in Ted Thompson faith.

              Which is it with you?

              We'll never know what the Packers offered, but it must have been for more money than his RFA tender. Patler

              A) We'll never know what the Packers offered?

              or

              B) It must have been for more money....than....

              Please choose just one of the above for us. It cannot be both ways Patler. It's A) or B) !

              How well are you undestanding this?

              I make every possible effort to be understood. It could be me and a round about right back at you mister. I'm more sensable than that as your makeup gives no ground. I've observd that in you for some eight years plus.

              It's so easy for you and any other here when cornered to simply... insult. Cast shadows about that poster. You must be correct. That's so sad.

              For you to ever be open minded? Niiigghhhttt ! Forget that.

              That would be acting like some normal person. No you have the POWERS of knowing the unknown.

              The likelihood is that the contract he signed with the Steelers is very similar to what the Packers offered

              That's even as a presumption...unfounded and well... 'simply' unbelievable.

              PACKERS !
              Not sure who you are addressing this to, Joemailman whom you quoted, or me, who you referenced when you repeated the quote?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                Actually Patler ....let's let it be as it must:

                You go ahead imagining that your correct.
                Fine with me. What is it that I am correct about????

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                • #98
                  my guess is GB talked numbers and we went back and got more. GB certainly would have offered him more IMO than the lowball tag he got from Pitt
                  Talking numbers and closing he deal.....very different.....who knows it was possible..........but one could argue it's a pattern
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    Not sure who you are addressing this to, Joemailman whom you quoted, or me, who you referenced when you repeated the quote?
                    I simply made an error and should not have directed that to you. That was meant for the poster. That poster was 'in fact' Joemailman not you Patler.

                    I apologize for that.
                    Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-21-2013, 03:08 PM.
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                    • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                      I simply made an error and should not have directed that to you. That was meant for the poster. That poster was 'in fact' Joemailman not you Patler.

                      I apoligize for that.
                      No problem. No need to apologize.

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                      • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Fine with me. What is it that I am correct about????
                        When I read that post fr. Joe and thought it was from you. I simply decided inside my rebuttal to realize the impending frustration.

                        I don't like argument.

                        I therefore decided to allow your way. Walk away scratching my head.

                        The better side of valour...walk away sometimes.
                        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Because they had NO OTHER nose tackles on the roster! Not because he is Curly Culp revisited. Because he was all that was left since Casey Hampton had been let go.
                          Yes ....the Pittsburg Steeler fans were certainly aware of that. Those fans felt that losing Steven McLendon would be huge. Why?

                          Because he had experience as a Steeler. He was more that just serviceable.

                          Ted Thompson needed to be all over that and cut that NT away from Pittsburg. Make a solid offer that made him want to be a Green Bay Packer. You make an offer and observe him. You talk about life and let that man get to know you different ways.

                          If he's not asking for the pen...up the offer.

                          It's like buying a big ticket item in reverse. You never pay what the store asks for. You get the salesman liking you and then tell him what you'll pay out. He'll look at that sale price that you set not him/her and calculate his commission and go for that or not.

                          TT had to know the value of Steven McLendon. Otherwise... why ask him to come into Green Bay. Once he's there you sell him on the Packers and ensure that he signs. TT has to pitch harder.

                          Too often he fails. It's not as much ...a case of or guess why? It's that...it happens too often. That that's 'a fact'.

                          PACKERS!
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                          • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            No problem. No need to apologize.
                            I apologize too.
                            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              I knew you would take it wrong.

                              It becomes apparent to me after a couple exchanges with you that I simply do not understand you, nor do you understand me; because our discussions never follow any logical advancement. As I wrote earlier, we just go around in circles. That's on both of us. We just do not communicate well with each other for whatever reason.

                              But, unlike you, I am not very smart; so I guess that explains it.
                              Patler is that a condescension? In any case... I'm not buying this:

                              "I am not very smart". Patler

                              I'm positively smart enough to make this claim. I'm positive those who really know you would have ample proof to disagree as to the truth of the quote above.

                              I'm smart enough to know that your smart; or I wouldn't try so hard with you.
                              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                              • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                                Yes ....the Pittsburg Steeler fans were certainly aware of that. Those fans felt that losing Steven McLendon would be huge. Why?

                                Because he had experience as a Steeler. He was more that just serviceable.

                                Ted Thompson needed to be all over that and cut that NT away from Pittsburg. Make a solid offer that made him want to be a Green Bay Packer. You make an offer and observe him. You talk about life and let that man get to know you different ways.

                                If he's not asking for the pen...up the offer.

                                It's like buying a big ticket item in reverse. You never pay what the store asks for. You get the salesman liking you and then tell him what you'll pay out. He'll look at that sale price that you set not him/her and calculate his commission and go for that or not.

                                TT had to know the value of Steven McLendon. Otherwise... why ask him to come into Green Bay. Once he's there you sell him on the Packers and ensure that he signs. TT has to pitch harder.

                                Too often he fails. It's not as much ...a case of or guess why? It's that...it happens too often. That that's 'a fact'.

                                PACKERS!
                                Except that there is not one buyer in this instance. McClendon can take any offer he gets and shop it to the other team.

                                Do you always buy when you shop Buck? Do you always buy at the first store you stop at? Saying no when it goes past your price is generally a good policy. Otherwise you end up beating the price of the most desperate team.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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