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  • #31
    Originally posted by red View Post
    we opened with san fran last year

    fuck that noise man

    play a god damn team 3 times in one calender year and they aren't even in our division. thats bull shit
    What's bullshit is that we can't hang with them.

    They stomped us twice - completely man-handled and dominated us twice. We're gonna get some guys back, and that certainly will help, but we still can't measure up to them. Unless TT comes away with a couple of instant studs in the draft, and Worthy, Neal, Perry, and one of the young S's all emerge as at least red-chip players. That's asking a lot.

    And given that SF lost the Superbowl, and is hungrier and angrier than they were last year, they're going to want to come out and make an opening statement for the season. I think SF is the best team in the league, and there's no reason to think they won't come out and dominate us for the 3rd time in a year.
    wist

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    • #32
      No way Worthy even plays in the SF game. Likely will start the year on PUP.

      The Packers will have a couple weeks to prepare for the SF game, and a lot of knowledge and desire for redemption from their experiences last year. Don't know if they will win or not, but I expect a good game.

      I'm not ready to crown either SF or Seattle as the beast to beat in the conference for 2013 just yet. Either or both could pull Philly/Detroit-like disappearing acts next year, probably Seattle being the more likely one to do so. Funny things often happen over the off season.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        REGULAR
        Code:
        01 SEP 8 3:25PM   AT   49ERS
        02 SEP 15 12:00PM      REDSKINS
        03 SEP 22 12:00PM AT   BENGALS
        04 BYE
        05 OCT 6 12:00PM       LIONS
        06 OCT 13 12:00PM AT   RAVENS
        07 OCT 20 3:25PM       BROWNS
        08 OCT 27 7:30PM  AT   VIKINGS
        09 NOV 4 7:40PM        BEARS
        10 NOV 10 12:00PM      EAGLES
        11 NOV 17 7:30PM  AT   GIANTS
        12 NOV 24 12:00PM      VIKINGS
        13 NOV 28 11:30AM AT   LIONS
        14 DEC 8 7:30PM        FALCONS
        15 DEC 15 3:25PM  AT   COWBOYS
        16 DEC 22 3:25PM       STEELERS
        17 DEC 29 12:00PM AT   BEARS
        Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty tough schedule? 49ers, Redskins, Ravens, Giants, Falcons, Cowboys, Steelers AND our division. The only three "easy" games are the Eagles, Bengals and the Browns. The Bengals Don't look like that shabby of a team anymore. If the Packers Finish 11-5, I think they'll be a pretty battle hardened team and will have a great shot to go the distance.
        - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
          Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty tough schedule? 49ers, Redskins, Ravens, Giants, Falcons, Cowboys, Steelers AND our division. The only three "easy" games are the Eagles, Bengals and the Browns. The Bengals Don't look like that shabby of a team anymore. If the Packers Finish 11-5, I think they'll be a pretty battle hardened team and will have a great shot to go the distance.
          yeah, i thought it looks pretty tough too

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
            Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty tough schedule? 49ers, Redskins, Ravens, Giants, Falcons, Cowboys, Steelers AND our division. The only three "easy" games are the Eagles, Bengals and the Browns. The Bengals Don't look like that shabby of a team anymore. If the Packers Finish 11-5, I think they'll be a pretty battle hardened team and will have a great shot to go the distance.
            Agree. I think it's a pretty tough schedule. 7 games against playoff teams (if you could MIN twice). I actually think CLE could field a pretty good defense this year, but GB should still beat them. The division games are always up for grabs. No idea how good the NFC East teams will be this year.

            If GB can avoid any major injuries 10+ wins and playoffs are a good bet.

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            • #36
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              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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              • #37
                9-7

                It's a tough schedule and we're just not that good. We have Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, some decent receivers, a score of average players, and a score of junk.

                SF, Sea, NYG, et al, can dominate us physically, it's not a matter of x's and o's, or that we're a bounce of the ball away from beating them. We can't compete with the power teams, they are simply physically stronger than we are, and there's nothing we can do about that.
                wist

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                  9-7

                  It's a tough schedule and we're just not that good. We have Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, some decent receivers, a score of average players, and a score of junk.

                  SF, Sea, NYG, et al, can dominate us physically, it's not a matter of x's and o's, or that we're a bounce of the ball away from beating them. We can't compete with the power teams, they are simply physically stronger than we are, and there's nothing we can do about that.
                  Except for when we beat them. Then it was x's and o's or the ball bouncing our way. The packers have only a small handful of players that are physically suited for an NFL roster. They would have no chance against dominant smash mouth teams like Seattle, Alabama, or LSU.
                  70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                    9-7

                    It's a tough schedule and we're just not that good. We have Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, some decent receivers, a score of average players, and a score of junk.

                    SF, Sea, NYG, et al, can dominate us physically, it's not a matter of x's and o's, or that we're a bounce of the ball away from beating them. We can't compete with the power teams, they are simply physically stronger than we are, and there's nothing we can do about that.

                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                      9-7

                      It's a tough schedule and we're just not that good. We have Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, some decent receivers, a score of average players, and a score of junk.

                      SF, Sea, NYG, et al, can dominate us physically, it's not a matter of x's and o's, or that we're a bounce of the ball away from beating them. We can't compete with the power teams, they are simply physically stronger than we are, and there's nothing we can do about that.
                      I support Wist on his effort. He is making a prediction and stating why. I may not agree but I give him kudos for not being afraid to put it out there. I usually wait until TC before I make a guess.
                      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                      -Tim Harmston

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                      • #41
                        Even if it's true the Pack can't beat the 49ers or the Giants, that's only 2 losses. I don't see another 5 losses. Packers were 11-5 last year with a ton of injuries. I don't see any logical reason why they should be worse this year.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #42
                          I don't think we'll be worse than last year (based on the assumption that Perry and the young safties are better) - but we have a lot of ground to cover to catch up to SF, NY, et al.

                          We'll be underdogs in at least 4 games @ SF, Cinn, Balt, and NYG. Don't see us even threatening SF or NY. If we can split with Cinn and Baltimore?? 1-3 is better than 0-4.

                          As for the rest of the schedule... Minnesota routinely rushes for 674 yds/game against us and pushes us around pretty good. Those games will be a toss up; don't know what to expect out of Det and Chi... although playing Det on T-day doesn't help - they always get up for that game regardless of their record.

                          The Redskins have more all around talent than we do, as do the Falcons; we're pretty even with the Cowboys and Steelers. The Browns and Eagles are the only teams I'd say we should have an easy time of it - although the Browns are definitely improving, and are built to play good defense and run the ball, i.e. our cryptonite. I could see the Browns game being similar to the KC Chiefs game a couple of years ago where we have a lot more skill position talent, but they're tougher than we are, and just punch us in the mouth for 60 minutes.

                          I think we're a playoff team, but not a real threat to SF. 2 1/2 months ago they completely dominated us; 6 months ago they completely dominated us - am I the only Packerrat who watched those games?? It's one thing to lose a playoff game, it's quite another to be bitch-slapped and laughed at.

                          SF doesn't respect us - why should they?? We weren't even a speed bump to them. At least Atl gave 'em a run for their money.
                          wist

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                            I don't think we'll be worse than last year (based on the assumption that Perry and the young safties are better) - but we have a lot of ground to cover to catch up to SF, NY, et al.

                            We'll be underdogs in at least 4 games @ SF, Cinn, Balt, and NYG. Don't see us even threatening SF or NY. If we can split with Cinn and Baltimore?? 1-3 is better than 0-4.

                            As for the rest of the schedule... Minnesota routinely rushes for 674 yds/game against us and pushes us around pretty good. Those games will be a toss up; don't know what to expect out of Det and Chi... although playing Det on T-day doesn't help - they always get up for that game regardless of their record.

                            The Redskins have more all around talent than we do, as do the Falcons; we're pretty even with the Cowboys and Steelers. The Browns and Eagles are the only teams I'd say we should have an easy time of it - although the Browns are definitely improving, and are built to play good defense and run the ball, i.e. our cryptonite. I could see the Browns game being similar to the KC Chiefs game a couple of years ago where we have a lot more skill position talent, but they're tougher than we are, and just punch us in the mouth for 60 minutes.

                            I think we're a playoff team, but not a real threat to SF. 2 1/2 months ago they completely dominated us; 6 months ago they completely dominated us - am I the only Packerrat who watched those games?? It's one thing to lose a playoff game, it's quite another to be bitch-slapped and laughed at.

                            SF doesn't respect us - why should they?? We weren't even a speed bump to them. At least Atl gave 'em a run for their money.
                            The Packers are about even with the Cowboys? You need to stop hanging around with Jerry Jones.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              The Packers are about even with the Cowboys? You need to stop hanging around with Jerry Jones.
                              The Cowboys biggest weakness is their OL - our sucks too.

                              Rodgers is a cut above Romo, but that is about the only position we outpace them. Dez Bryant is far more talented than any receiver we have, but collectively we're probably better; Witten is as good as they come - and unlike the Packers, the Cowboys actually have a RB in DeMarco Murray.

                              Defensively they're better than we are. Call Matthews and Ware a wash... they're weak in the secondary - but so are we. Brandon Carr, even though he had a bit of a down year, is better than anyone we have in our secondary; Jay Ratliff and Anthony Spencer are at least the equal of Raji and Perry. They have a lot of average starters; we have a lot of average starters.

                              Don't know much about their depth, but ours is shit - so yeah, the Cowboys and Packers are about equal. I'd give us a slight edge perhaps, but not by much.
                              wist

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                Looks like 11-5 or 12-5
                                We start the first half of the seaosn 7-1

                                We are not getting bounced in the first round again!

                                Put me down for 11-5 regular season, 3 - 0 post season
                                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                                George Orwell

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