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[HarveyWallbangers]

I've watched just about every game of the guy. He's not good, and he hasn't improved much. Even in their three game winning streak before our game, dude threw for 130 yards/game with 1 TD total in those 3 games. They ask him to dink and dunk, and he wasn't even that great at that. With Percy Harvin padding his stats for half the year on those passes that don't go past the line of scrimmage and Adrian Peterson. He had a good statistically game against us, but even that game I wasn't the impressed. He had a 65 yard throw on a play we left a guy wide open + a 25 yard pass on 3rd down that bounce off 2-3 of our guys before bouncing into the hands of Michael Jenkins. Every dog has a good statistical game every once in awhile. I watched Blaine Gabbert throw for 260, 2 TDs, and 0 picks at Minnesota, and that guy is even worse than Ponder. Heck, Rick Mirer had a good game every now and then.

[woodbuck27]

What's bullshit is that we can't hang with them.

They stomped us twice - completely man-handled and dominated us twice. We're gonna get some guys back, and that certainly will help, but we still can't measure up to them. Unless TT comes away with a couple of instant studs in the draft, and Worthy, Neal, Perry, and one of the young S's all emerge as at least red-chip players. That's asking a lot.

And given that SF lost the Superbowl, and is hungrier and angrier than they were last year, they're going to want to come out and make an opening statement for the season. I think SF is the best team in the league, and there's no reason to think they won't come out and dominate us for the 3rd time in a year.

That's alot of:

Wishin' and Hoping and Planning and ....:



Praying !!

[woodbuck27]

We are not getting bounced in the first round again!

Put me down for 11-5 regular season, 3 - 0 post season

Hi Upnorth ....?

Are you getting an early Spring out west? Did you win the lotto? Find an excellent astrologer...a fortune teller? Find a solid set of Indian 'wishin' beads?

Locate a very special tonic? Come on please....let us in on it!?

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

We're ahead of them, but not by much. We're both in the 2nd tier of playoff caliber teams in the NFC.

I agree that their OL is worse than ours - and that's saying something, b/c our OL sucks.

As for the back end on defense... I don't think we're better than they are. We have more young guys with upside, but being perpetually young comes with its own set of problems - our guys are running in the wrong direction half the time; and while they cut down on the number of busted coverages last year, they were pretty average overall and weren't very good when it mattered. Carr is a much better corner than Williams. We have a lot more potential than they do I think, but that's all it is is potential.

Throw in Mr. Spraypaintedhair as our DC, and you have the potential for a huge mess on any given week. Unfortunately, the reality is we're not much better than the Cowboys.

That's alot like :



OUCH !!!! That painful !

[rbaloha1]

Thank goodness MM is addressing the spread option problem on defense and not treating it as a hula hoop.

[King Friday]

Don't know much about their depth, but ours is shit - so yeah, the Cowboys and Packers are about equal. I'd give us a slight edge perhaps, but not by much.

Really wist? Have you not watched the Cowboys implode year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year?

You sit here and want us to believe that you are knowledgeable about football...then make a moronic comment like "the Cowboys and Packers are about equal." Rodgers is not just a cut above Romo...he's filet mignon to Romo's chopped steak. Romo is a joke who is extremely overhyped and continually comes up small in big games. Thompson has more football intelligence in his big toe than the Cowboys have in their entire executive brain trust. While we all recognize the weaknesses of our coaching staff, it remains significantly better than the Dallas coaching staff...so even if the rosters ARE equal (and that is a big stretch IMO because Jerruh can't draft for depth in any way shape or form) then the Packers still have a reasonable edge in coaching and preparation.

[pbmax]

No, no Ponder couldn't have been hurt and Webb did not actually play. That was just some Game Day gamesmanship on the part of Leslie Frazier.

Ponder was fine and healthy versus the Packers the previous week and we know the Packers are so soft and small that they never put a hurt on the opponents. Especially not Morgan Burnett who typifies this new small and effete lineup M3 and T2 are putting out there.

[pbmax]

From the Department of Do Not Count Your Chicken Before They Hatch:

Rick Mirer was better than Drew Bledsoe for the first and probably second year of their careers.

[Bretsky]

I have 3 words for ya Wist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxtT24tvjYQ

I think many would argue I might be anti homer #2 in here.....I don't mean offense...but some don't like my reference when I note things about da homers......however


Rodgers > Romo
Pack OL > Cowboys OL
Pack WR> Cowboys WR's.........I agree Dallas has by far the best.....but if you are looking at the group you have to take GB's

Regarding the DL, I'm not sure I'd argue GB's is much better than anybody's so I'd give Dallas the edge there

BUT the Secondary.......Dallas was terrible there. I understand Green Bay is below average. But IMO anybody would take our DB's over theirs. Carr.....yes... he's the best....but their cup is completely dry after that

And we get a HUGE edge in having one of the best rookie CB's last year

Dallas praying the safety from Texas drops to them because they have Bush like talent in multiple spots back there

I agree neither team is elite. In the bigger picture, if you are giving them a 1 for Elite, a 2 for solid playoff team, and a 3 for marginal playoff team barely slipping in........

Isn't Green Bay a 2 and Dallas a 3 ????

[Smeefers]

I don't think Ponder sucks. He isn't great; but he's okay, he's young, and he's improving.

I don't think his ceiling is very high - but then again, going against our defense, when he can post a very efficient passer rating of 120, a QB rating of 94, 227 yds passing, no turnovers, 3 passing TD's, and 37 pts... it's good enough.

Agreed. Ponder doesn't suck. He's also going to have a helluva lot more talent around him this year just by adding Jennings.

[rbaloha1]

Agreed. Ponder doesn't suck. He's also going to have a helluva lot more talent around him this year just by adding Jennings.

Early in the year Ponder was having a good year.

GJ runs the route tree and definitely helps Ponder on hot reads.

[Smeefers]

I think it's hard to look too far into the future about how good SF is going to be. You have to realize that last year they had next to no injury problems. What happens if that turns around this year? If they're banged up half as bad as we were, who knows how far they get. If all the packers are healthy and in mid season form and and the 9ers are healthy and in mid season form, yes, the 9ers are probably better - but not that much.

[rbaloha1]

I think it's hard to look too far into the future about how good SF is going to be. You have to realize that last year they had next to no injury problems. What happens if that turns around this year? If they're banged up half as bad as we were, who knows how far they get. If all the packers are healthy and in mid season form and and the 9ers are healthy and in mid season form, yes, the 9ers are probably better - but not that much.

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[pbmax]

Ponder had a lot of his early year success with Harvin and throwing very short routes/passes with a lot of WR and slot receiver screens behind the LOS. Harvin made those into gold. He had far less success throwing down the field. See every game prior to Week 17 after Harvin's injury.

With Jennings plus a draft pick and minus Harvin, the offense will look different in the pass game. Jennings is far more talented down the field than Harvin, but we'll see if Ponder can complete the routes he runs best. He won't be able to bounce 60 yard TDs off two defenders every time.

[wist43]

I have 3 words for ya Wist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxtT24tvjYQ

I think many would argue I might be anti homer #2 in here.....I don't mean offense...but some don't like my reference when I note things about da homers......however


Rodgers > Romo
Pack OL > Cowboys OL
Pack WR> Cowboys WR's.........I agree Dallas has by far the best.....but if you are looking at the group you have to take GB's

Regarding the DL, I'm not sure I'd argue GB's is much better than anybody's so I'd give Dallas the edge there

BUT the Secondary.......Dallas was terrible there. I understand Green Bay is below average. But IMO anybody would take our DB's over theirs. Carr.....yes... he's the best....but their cup is completely dry after that

And we get a HUGE edge in having one of the best rookie CB's last year

Dallas praying the safety from Texas drops to them because they have Bush like talent in multiple spots back there

I agree neither team is elite. In the bigger picture, if you are giving them a 1 for Elite, a 2 for solid playoff team, and a 3 for marginal playoff team barely slipping in........

Isn't Green Bay a 2 and Dallas a 3 ????

Yeah, I suppose I'd agree with that. I consider us a 2nd tier playoff team, with the Cowboys a half step behind us. I said we were slightly better than the Cowboys, but not by much.

Listening to these homers you'd think we were a coin flip away from leaving Frisco with the George Halas trophy - we weren't, and aren't, even close to the Niners.

We're closer to the Cowboys than we are the Niners. We're 1 year removed from fielding one of the worst defenses in league history. We're 2 1/2 months removed from giving up 323 yds rushing and 45 pts in a playoff game. It's as if these homers find the facts so unacceptable that they can't rationally discuss the problems that lead to these obviously poor results. They say "what poor results"... Seargant Shultz: "I see nut-ting!!!"

Then of course, they launch into Saul Alinsky mode and call the deniers father rapers, if not outright accuse us of littering