Mockzilla 2013

[Fritz]

If a QB is taken with pick #26, my hope is that it is because Buffalo traded picks 40 and 72 to move up.

In my fantasy world, GB moves down three or so spots, picks up an extra fourth, then moves into the second and gets somebody's third, too. Two picks in the second, third, and fourth rounds.

[3irty1]

I can't see EJ Manuel going to the Packers with their first round pick, unless they've got evaluations on him that put his value way above everyone else. TT took Rodgers because he had a chance to go #1, and fell. Manuel will likely go in the top half of the second round, where's the value in taking him near the end of the first?

Now, if Geno Smith were to fall to the 26th pick, which is not unreasonable, that I could see.

People might mock EJ to the top of the 2nd but only because that's when the teams in need of a QB pick again. In a vacuum I don't think the disparity between the Smith or Barkley and Manuel is all that much and part of my reasoning in this mock was that Manuel did seem to fit the bill for intangibles that Ted has looked for in other QB's so he could easily be his BPA at #26. If Manuel were the 2nd QB chosen and it was Barkley who fell, I don't think the pick would be as justifiable and even more unlikely.

[3irty1]

In my fantasy world, GB moves down three or so spots, picks up an extra fourth, then moves into the second and gets somebody's third, too. Two picks in the second, third, and fourth rounds.

That's an awesome world to live in for this draft.

[smuggler]

I want to come visit. lol

[Guiness]

People might mock EJ to the top of the 2nd but only because that's when the teams in need of a QB pick again. In a vacuum I don't think the disparity between the Smith or Barkley and Manuel is all that much and part of my reasoning in this mock was that Manuel did seem to fit the bill for intangibles that Ted has looked for in other QB's so he could easily be his BPA at #26. If Manuel were the 2nd QB chosen and it was Barkley who fell, I don't think the pick would be as justifiable and even more unlikely.

EJ might be the 3rd QB taken, but who are the top 2? There's chatter now that Buffalo could take Nassib - at #8! If that happens, wow did they ever get played. Barkley is the one who could slip. He was rated highly going into the 2012 season, and has been somewhat exposed this season - he won't be taken as highly as it was thought before this year. The question is, does he have a Leinhart like drop in his draft status, or a Brohm one?

[3irty1]

EJ might be the 3rd QB taken, but who are the top 2? There's chatter now that Buffalo could take Nassib - at #8! If that happens, wow did they ever get played. Barkley is the one who could slip. He was rated highly going into the 2012 season, and has been somewhat exposed this season - he won't be taken as highly as it was thought before this year. The question is, does he have a Leinhart like drop in his draft status, or a Brohm one?

For me Manuel is #2 although I think most seem to prefer Barkley or Nassib but usually not both. Its kind of a cluster after Geno. Someone's got to go 2nd though.

QB's have different rules because of how important they are. The first few are rarely picked for reasons other than need and for the most part there is no plan B for them if they fail as QB's. If you like one better than the others and you don't have one you have to take him. Nassib is supposedly the best lockerroom guy in the draft so I could understand why he'd be the choice when you need a guy to be the fate of your franchise. If I had the luxury to groom a guy though I'd rather have Geno Smith or Manuel, especially given all the recent success of that kind of QB.

[Fritz]

That's an awesome world to live in for this draft.

Here ya go, Smuggler, 3irty1:

[woodbuck27]

Here ya go, Smuggler, 3irty1:

That's how much I understand that you'll age if you tune in for this entire draft.

So .... take breaks.

[3irty1]

Here ya go, Smuggler, 3irty1:

Today I learned that the secret to a favorable draft is to smoke tampons.

[Fritz]

Al Davis's secret is out.

[hoosier]

Who says you can only get one first round pick for him? Hasselbeck was worth a 1st and a 3rd and Manuel has a LOT more upside than that.

Actually the Packers had to give up their own first (#17) and seventh round picks along with Hasselbeck to get Seattle's one and three. The total differential in draft picks (according to that value chart) was 569, which equates with the 34th pick of the draft. So Hasselbeck was really only worth a high second round pick. Not to mention that those traded picks turned into Jamaal Reynolds vs. Steve Hutchinson, which makes it seem like the Packers actually gave up the 10th pick plus Hasselbeck in exchange for #17 and a third!

[Bretsky]

Actually the Packers had to give up their own first (#17) and seventh round picks along with Hasselbeck to get Seattle's one and three. The total differential in draft picks (according to that value chart) was 569, which equates with the 34th pick of the draft. So Hasselbeck was really only worth a high second round pick. Not to mention that those traded picks turned into Jamaal Reynolds vs. Steve Hutchinson, which makes it seem like the Packers actually gave up the 10th pick plus Hasselbeck in exchange for #17 and a third!

Good stuff; I was going to point this out as well.

To make Matters WORSE, I think the extra pick we picked up turned out to be Torrence Marshall

[Bretsky]

3irty...........good stuff.............but I'd like to extend an invitation for backup pick in round one. It's hard for me, given all our needs, to believe we'd go with Manuel here. I would think TT, first, would trade down...even if he gets less than fair market value.

So if not Manual, who would be your backup pick ??

[3irty1]

Well if you're going to make me be realistic I don't think we'll draft for need. I think there will be a top 20 player who will fall and we'll have an easy case of BPA, hopefully its a least kind of a need.

I could see Alec Ogletree, Johnathan Cooper, Jarvis Jones, Tank Caradine or Tyler Eifert all falling for various reasons. I'd take any of those guys if they were available although some of them are barely a need.

[Bretsky]

Well if you're going to make me be realistic I don't think we'll draft for need. I think there will be a top 20 player who will fall and we'll have an easy case of BPA, hopefully its a least kind of a need.

I could see Alec Ogletree, Johnathan Cooper, Jarvis Jones, Tank Caradine or Tyler Eifert all falling for various reasons. I'd take any of those guys if they were available although some of them are barely a need.

Agree; if I had to bet money I'd probably say it's Eifert....but I hope not