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  • #16
    Junkyard dawg.
    C.H.U.D.

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    • #17
      Wasn't too impressed with Raji. Granted he played like 80% of snaps and the next closest 3-4 NT in the league had like 60% or something silly like that. Neal looked the best of the bunch as a pashrushing entity. Daniels and Worthy were kind of 'meh' and then Worthy was injured, of course.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by gbgary View Post
        MASSIVE!

        We needed a DLineman who is into S&M.

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        • #19
          Pickett is getting old and Raji did better playing DE then he is playing NT.

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          • #20
            Hard to compare him to someone. . . . Justin Tuck plays a similar style game. He's young. He'll probably end up a tad heavier. I don't know if I want him heavier though. I'd like to see him keep his athleticism. He's strong. That's the important part. If you can be strong and move, that's all the better.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by KYPack View Post
              We needed a DLineman who is into S&M.
              Ha. Sacks & Mayhem, right?
              Think I'll roll another number for the road.
              I HATE everything about the Minnesota Vikings

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              • #22
                On this front I think wist has a point. There is a mis match up front and in centers on Raji. As an individual talent, there is nothing wrong with Raji.

                But he is a different player than Pickett or Wilson. Those two could and would 2 gap all day long or 1 gap and stay in line. Raji's game is penetration. And he doesn't have quite the anchor against double teams that Pickett has.

                So if he gets antsy (like when Peterson was running all over the defense) or when he is at nose in the base 3-4, he can be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

                Its a problem with any team that has a penetrating D lineman (think Ratliff in Dallas) but sometimes wants to sit and control a gap. Its gets the scheme out of shape. It can be dealt with and Raji, when need be can play it straight (see 3rd Vikes game or Giants playoff game esp 1st half).

                But it is enough of a problem to cause leaks if tackling in the back seven isn't up to snuff. Or if your ILBs are in the correct spot. Or the OLB opposite Matthews constantly seems to want to play as fast and aggressive as Raji when he is the last guy on the edge for a cutback.

                Put all that together and its leaking in the run game. You can dump Raji, but talent like that does not fall often into perennial playoff teams. One of the reasons the 49ers and Seahawks are loaded in base level talent that comes from drafting early every year.

                Or you can fix the other spots. OLB now has Perry. Raji will get spelled at DE by Jones and Jolly and Neal (hopefully reducing his snaps). And Hawk and Bishop have to play like 2010 not 2011. Lastly, the secondary, when the front leaks, needs to tackle. Shields at least, and House, know this.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  The niner and seahawks have pro bowl players from multiple rounds. espn says the seahawks have the most pro bowl players since 2010.

                  Jones last weighed at 277 -- needs to bulk up -- toughness at this weight only allows as a pass rusher or olb. Drafted to take over for Wilson not be a tough tweener.

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                  • #24
                    CJ Wilson's not going anywhere.
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #25
                      When asked about the value of Jones’ length (6-feet-3 7/8), Trgovac said: “First of all, when you can push the middle of the pocket and you’re longer, it’s obviously hard to throw over you as opposed to a shorter guy. If the tackles grab you nowadays, it’s easier to keep guys off you when you have length.”

                      Straight from the horse's mouth -- current problem with the current d-line.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                        CJ Wilson's not going anywhere.
                        No one said he was -- backup.

                        Jones needs to seize the position pronto or it is a potential bad pick.

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                        • #27
                          Too bad Worthy will likely be out for most of the year. A healthy Worthy, Jones, and Raji will make for some mean base D in a year or two.
                          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                          • #28
                            Like Worthy but gets pushed around too much. Hopefully he figures it out and adds good bulk.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                              No one said he was -- backup.

                              Jones needs to seize the position pronto or it is a potential bad pick.
                              Ideally he'll be a backup on the DL but the guy has just been hanging around, getting better. Last year he even flashed a bit of the pass rush he was known for in college.

                              He keeps moving the bar higher every year and if he is a backup it means that other guys are owning their high drafted potential
                              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                                Ideally he'll be a backup on the DL but the guy has just been hanging around, getting better. Last year he even flashed a bit of the pass rush he was known for in college.

                                He keeps moving the bar higher every year and if he is a backup it means that other guys are owning their high drafted potential
                                No doubt CW improved but is not elite -- Jones has that type of potential.

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