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[ThunderDan]

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Very interesting.

[pbmax]

I played OL. I respectively disagree. When I can fire out, grab you and Greco roman you, I will be the less tired of us. If I step back, slide to the side while you bull rush me and I use everything I have to regain balance and slow you down...I am gassed. (for reference see the gravedigger crawling his fat ass up at the end of the superbowl vs. Denver.) If you don't believe me, go out in the yard with your kid. Line up and drive block him. Then step back and stop him from getting past you. Tell me which one fatigues you more. Tell me which one puts you on your ass most often.

As for a set number...well, if a D lines up in base enough, then I reckon you need to run less. This virtually never happens though. Based on how NFL D's lineup I think 20 is a fair measuring stick, but I will concede that if a D gets stubborn, and continues to line up in base while you torch them without going nickel or dime, then you shouldn't run much....and that coach should be fired.

Defensive players are always going to be more tired than Offensive players because they cannot know when to take a down off and most need to chase the ball.

Now my experience is on the line as well, though only through high school. I would much rather wrestle you than chase you. Of course, I played DE and Tackle, not DT or Guard. Will I get tired? Yes. But if I am wrestling you I can still keep my legs. Gilbert got worn out chasing down the line, more movement than normal, and then being cut and having to get his ass back up off the ground. Denver wasn't drive blocking him.

Now if you are dominating with the run and I cannot win without a sell out effort? Then you have already won the battle, whether I am tired or not.

I will say this, whatever play you are running, the best way to wear out a defense is to run as many plays as possible in a row. Which means you need first downs and would be best served by going hurry up.

[Brandon494]

A running game is a QB's best friend so I'm excited to see how it will help Rodgers game since he has really never had a proven running game in his career.

[rbaloha1]

A running game is a QB's best friend so I'm excited to see how it will help Rodgers game since he has really never had a proven running game in his career.

Ditto

[Pugger]

I'm with bobblehead. YOu can't just run in on 3rd and short. You have to keep defenses off balance. That means running it part of the time, all of the time. The running game keeps our defense off the field too.

I do think AR needs to pick up the pace a little. I like how quickly he gets to the line. I don't always appreciate how dredgingly long he stays there, tinkering with whatever the F play he wants to be in. Tom Brady and Drew Brees snap it quick a lot. A part of running the ball is our big guys getting a jump on their big guys. If we really want to be balanced, I think we have to spend a little less time tweaking the perfect play, and let our guys go at their guys a little. You can be in the worst fucking run play imaginable, but if nobody is ready for the snap, it's not going to matter. Our guys will get a jump, plow their guys and we'll get yards.

I heard some defenders compare us to N.O. and N.E. They said Brady and Brees keep them off balance more. I'm not saying change the whole system. WE're a different team. But mix it in. 1 in every 5 or 10 make a quick snap, even if you don't like the defense. There's as much benefit to being a step ahead as there is to being in the perfect play. Do a little of both.

It is rather maddening when AR screws around changing the play while the play clock is ticking down. When it goes down to 2 seconds the D has a pretty good idea when we are gonna snap the damn ball.