Best Thing I Have Read In A Month

[Patler]

As an ex player generally physical superiority wins.

Ah, the age-old chicken/ egg quandary.

Playing with better technique can overcome physical disadvantages, but playing at similar skill level shifts the advantage to physical superiority. Wayne Gretsky was physically superior to virtually no one, but became what he was due to superiority in some basic skills and even more so in his understanding of the game and his "vision" on the ice.

Playing better within an appropriate scheme can overcome individual player disadvantages at several positions, but playing an inappropriate scheme, or playing it no better than the offense shifts the advantage back to the team with better players. I would submit that the 2010 Packers fell into the category of overcoming player weaknesses by simply play sound fundamentally across the board, and allowing the stars to shine.

[rbaloha1]

This is 2013 and the NFL has changed.

I guess this is some type of agreement the packers defensive scheme is going to contain the niners. Waiting for some suggestions not cliches.

[Patler]

Absolutely. But it was nice to read about a new one. I am still hoping they talk to the new Badger coaches. They are running a 3-4 and have faced the pistol before with Ault at Nevada.

Ya, I agree completely. The article was very interesting on several fronts. Seems like Greene might have gained valuable insight and perspective on defensive approaches to a new offense for the NFL, and on a player the Packers were then able to draft. SOmetimes success comes down to incidental events.

[rbaloha1]

I am not calling anyone out but lets talk some x's o's to contain what we know about the niner offense.

[Gunakor]

I am not calling anyone out but lets talk some x's o's to contain what we know about the niner offense.

Tell the OLB not to bite inside on fakes to Frank Gore. Walden was primarily responsible for what happened in January, from what I can remember. Walden is gone, and Perry is presumably healthy and starting. Tell Perry to hold contain and let the big guys inside swallow up Gore. That's a good place to start.

[Patler]

This is 2013 and the NFL has changed.

I guess this is some type of agreement the packers defensive scheme is going to contain the niners. Waiting for some suggestions not cliches.

Do you think this is a fundamental shift in the NFL? Different from the shift away from two-way players? Different from the shift to unlimited substitutions leading to specialists, 3 & 4 WR packages, play calling coming from the sidelines/pressbox, etc.? Different from the advent and subsequent proliferation of the original West Coast offense and its later derivations?

It isn't. It's just the next "new thing" in a league that has become enormously popular because of an unending string of new things. One of three things will happen:

1. Defenses will learn and take away the pistol offense.
2. The pistol will become the new "standard", and most everyone will employ it, leveling the field.
3. Defenses will learn to better control it, but never eliminate it; and it will remain as a variant for ever more teams.

The one thing I am certain of from having watched the NFL from a time when there were still some regular two-way players, no few handful of teams will hold the key to anything that lets them run rough-shod over the league for very long. Competition will be leveled by one of the above three scenarios.

[Patler]

I am not calling anyone out but lets talk some x's o's to contain what we know about the niner offense.

Ah! Gotcha. You can mostly ignore my previous comment, as I see what you want to do is have an X's and O's discussion. Not considering myself to be knowledgeable enough to do that, I will bow out and let you guys go at it!

[run pMc]

I am waiting for a white board diagram as to how to stop the niners.

I'd love to hear your suggestions.

I'd think playing more sound in their run contain, actually having a healthy roster, and getting rid of Walden and a gambling Woodson, and drafting more help would prevent your oft-cited '579'. Maybe that's not enough to completely "contain" the 49ers, but Super Bowl contenders aren't easily contained.

[3irty1]

I don't think actual X's and O's are going to be any different. Its not like the 49rs are inventing new blocking schemes that nobody has ever seen before... the read part of the read option is what's new and so difficult to handle. Its a battle of information. How do you stop an offense where not just ball carriers but also blockers all have dynamic assignments? How do you stop a play that isn't really even "called" until after the snap?

I think the answer to slowing down the 9ers and similar offenses in the future will be to compete on the information front. Disguising defenses is nothing new and a creative coach should be able to combat the concept by hiding assignments, frequently changing assignments, and making assignments less rigid and as dynamic as those on offense.

It would really help to score a buttload of points too.

[pbmax]

Aranda ran a 4-3 at Hawaii and is a disciple of Greg McMackin and late eagle d coordinator Jim Johnson.

Aranda ran a 3-4 at Utah State last year and is running one at UW. But I am more interested in who his opponents were (Nevada).

As important is Andersen who has a defensive background himself and faced Ault numerous times.

[rbaloha1]

Tell the OLB not to bite inside on fakes to Frank Gore. Walden was primarily responsible for what happened in January, from what I can remember. Walden is gone, and Perry is presumably healthy and starting. Tell Perry to hold contain and let the big guys inside swallow up Gore. That's a good place to start.

IMO it all starts with 3 guys committed to stop the dive play. Everyone else needs to use their eyes and stay parallel to the line of scrimmage while maintaining gap integrity.

Easier said than done when things are happening so quickly with precision.

Maybe the biggest asset -- Lacy running the ball and clock.

[woodbuck27]

During draft and scouting prep Kevin Greene was contacted by the D line coach at Illinios St.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...205337481.html

I don't understand why TT drafted this fella @ Rd. 6 #193 and didn't grab him as an UFA?

Was TT afraid that some other team (Bears?) might sign him as a UFA?

In any case.... I'm just in the process of assessing all of TT's picks.That takes about a week for me depended on available time. I've almost got that man cast off to the most likely to be cut in TC ... pile.

After reading that...

One.... Again >>> Why did TT draft him Rd. 6 Pick #193? A question for myself.

TWO: I'm a fan of OLB Nate Palmer. Damn it >>> I love an underdog's chances. We try harder. We usually win.

Thanks so much for that find pb.

GO PACK GO!

[pbmax]

IMO it all starts with 3 guys committed to stop the dive play. Everyone else needs to use their eyes and stay parallel to the line of scrimmage while maintaining gap integrity.

Easier said than done when things are happening so quickly with precision.

Maybe the biggest asset -- Lacy running the ball and clock.

End of the 49ers season suggest otherwise, but we'll see what happens this year.

[rbaloha1]

Without calling anyone does anyone else have more legit posts. Majority are great.

[Zool]

Would be nice if TWill was actually attempting to take ball carriers down too instead of practicing his matador skills. House seems to seek out contact, put him on the outside against the pistol. Sheilds at least tries to get in the way. The DL last year was....adequate? Nothing special. Walden is terrible and Jones is out of place quite often. Other than Matthews, the LB's were less than stellar as well. Perry sets a strong edge so getting him back should be a huge boost. If Datone can penetrate and disrupt that would help as well. If nothing else, having 3 DL eat up at least 4+ OL would be a boon to the entire D. Here's to hoping Datone is good in run as well as pass so they can have him out there with Raji and Pickett eating up blockers.