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Yes but.... Bob McGinn used the word ... 'almost' ... in the first comment... that you quote.Originally posted by cheesner View PostLol. His contradiction is only 2 questions apart.
Could that 'almost'... be in reference to TT's pick at Rd. 3 #109 OT David Bakhtiari... in the next comment that you quote?
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Again -- McGinn is only repeating the Packer's organizational directive. If you view the Packers draft not meeting the directive criticize TT's drafting not McGinn's player analysis.Originally posted by cheesner View PostLol. His contradiction is only 2 questions apart.
McGinn detractors need to listen to the post Packer draft podcast.
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Packer directive? McGinn was very pro-Favre anti-TT. I tend to think the Packers don't respect him enough to give him anything of interest. I think he looks for clues in what they do tell him and he runs with a story. If our first pick was Sylvester WIlliams and we took Jesse Williams in the 2nd, maybe there would be something to it. McGinn is throwing darts.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostAgain -- McGinn is only repeating the Packer's organizational directive. If you view the Packers draft not meeting the directive criticize TT's drafting not McGinn's player analysis.
McGinn detractors need to listen to the post Packer draft podcast.
Woodbuck - Looking at all the picks, I see no emphasis on size. I think, if anything, we went smaller more athletic, than larger.
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All OL always think that way. They'd want a chance to hit the DL, instead of sitting on their heels trying to stop an oncoming freight train.Originally posted by denverYooper View PostI'm with you there. I thought Lang at one point last season made a comment about the line wanting to run more because it gave the OL a chance to be the aggressors.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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I am not sure Sitton pulled much, but Lang sure did. Having moved the best straight line run blockers to the left, a lot of the O line's run improvement is going to be driven by the winner of the RT competition. And health.
But the biggest thing might be the young talent. Even if injuries strike, Lacy/Franklin/Starks/Harris/Green ought to be a better bang for your buck. If they are healthy.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by cheesner View PostPacker directive? McGinn was very pro-Favre anti-TT. I tend to think the Packers don't respect him enough to give him anything of interest. I think he looks for clues in what they do tell him and he runs with a story. If our first pick was Sylvester WIlliams and we took Jesse Williams in the 2nd, maybe there would be something to it. McGinn is throwing darts.
Woodbuck - Looking at all the picks, I see no emphasis on size. I think, if anything, we went smaller more athletic, than larger.
That is the point -- The Packer directive is not for the public -- no team admits to being a little soft. McGinn is not a friend of the organization -- thank goodness.
Did you listen to the podcast?
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My bigger hang-ups with the running game were with the line and playcalling. Flipping the line makes sense, given everyone's strengths and weaknesses. I don't expect the playcalling to change much - to my dismay.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostWell, that was rather positive. What's gotten into you?
I pretty much agree. Not sure how much of a transition period there will be. Bulaga will be going back to playing his natural position. Moving to RT in 2010 was more of an adjustment for him than this will be. Hopefully Sitton and Lang are quick studies. Not sure who to hope for at RT. Barclay played pretty well there last year, but Sherrod, if healthy, is more talented. RT will be a battle to watch in training camp.
I do now view the Lacy pick in a more positive light. Without major change on the OL it would have been a wasted pick. We simply could not have continued trying to play the way we were. Flipping the line is a drastic measure, but in this case it was needed. Guys ended up at positions that weren't their most natural fit b/c of injuries, having to replace departed vets, and having to shore up spots b/c of non-performance. The line hasn't had much stability at all during TT's reign - some of it self inflicted, some of it injuries and the other issues.
In the end, this move gets guys into positions more suited to their strengths. The key is Bulaga holding up at LT... we gave up way too much pressure from the left side last year. If Bulaga can stabalize LT, I would expect that would show up in the skill position stat lines.wist
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I keep seeing references to the "Packer's organizational directive". From whom did this directive come? Mark Murphy? The Executive Committee? Or is TT schizoid and is giving himself directives?Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostAgain -- McGinn is only repeating the Packer's organizational directive. If you view the Packers draft not meeting the directive criticize TT's drafting not McGinn's player analysis.
McGinn detractors need to listen to the post Packer draft podcast.
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TT has only 3 directives:Originally posted by QBME View PostI keep seeing references to the "Packer's organizational directive". From whom did this directive come? Mark Murphy? The Executive Committee? Or is TT schizoid and is giving himself directives?
1.) TT may not harm the Packers
2.) TT must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.) TT must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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Does that mean McCarthy is Wil Smith?Originally posted by denverYooper View PostTT has only 3 directives:
1.) TT may not harm the Packers
2.) TT must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.) TT must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Originally posted by QBME View PostI keep seeing references to the "Packer's organizational directive". From whom did this directive come? Mark Murphy? The Executive Committee? Or is TT schizoid and is giving himself directives?QBME raises a solid point. In an organization like the Packers, any such "directive" would come from TT, and no one else. No one above TT would (or should) issue football operation directives relating to the roster.Originally posted by rbaloha1 View PostPlease e-mail McGinn and ask him since you are in doubt.
More than likely, just another example of McGinn sensationalizing a comment he heard.
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What evidence do you have about sensationalizing? Did you listen to the post packer draft podcast?Originally posted by Patler View PostQBME raises a solid point. In an organization like the Packers, any such "directive" would come from TT, and no one else. No one above TT would (or should) issue football operation directives relating to the roster.
More than likely, just another example of McGinn sensationalizing a comment he heard.
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