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  • #46
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    Just curious, how do you know that? From what I see in games, unless the pass is directed at a player, you seldom know if he was covered, or wide open with no one near. Unless the pass is directed to him, he is seldom even visible in the view broadcast.

    Did you subscribe to whatever it was that was supposed to show the full field views?
    Is it any good? Worth the money?
    If you subscribe, can you call it up anytime, even now?
    Or just a limited time after a game?
    How do you not know that?
    Last edited by rbaloha1; 05-12-2013, 08:32 PM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
      How do you not know that?

      Is it the same "intelligence" you use that Justin Smith weighs 270 or challenge McGinn's in-depth analysis.

      Woodbuck -- is this the arrogant prick you are referring to?
      How do I not know what? That Woodson covered Davis ljke a blanket? Very simple, because I never saw it in that game. Not with enough regularity to make any definitive statement about it. Most of the time I didn't see what Woodson was doing on a play. Mostly I saw the QBs and linemen, with cuts to limited frames of wherever the passes went. I have no clue what was going on elsewhere on the field because I couldn't see it. When I did see Woodson, too often he was running and struggling to get back into plays.

      I simply asked you some questions about whatever that service is that was available last year, and if it was worth it. I thought you were one of the people on here who said they subscribed. I was hoping to find out more about it.

      What about Justin Smith and his weight? All I would know is what is published on rosters. Don't remember discussing it, but maybe. Are you confusing me with someone else? You will have to refresh my memory. When was it?

      I've never challenged McGinn's indepth analysis, especially not about the draftable players. I usually save his summaries about positions so I can look at the paragraphs on the top players at each position.

      My beef with McGinn has been with the rumors and "inside information" he publishes which far too often is shown to be baseless. I hate the spin he uses to justify rumors published by him and his cronies, even after proven wrong, like the "bigger tougher" and "avoid injured players at all cost" rumors that the draft facts this year simply do not support. As I said several times recently, some readers want to kiss his ass for everything he publishes, instead of thinking for themselves and differentiating between the things he is very good at, at the times he sensationalizes rumors to sell papers.

      By the way, if you really want to see an arrogant prick, look in the mirror. You complain that you are the target of unfounded attacks, yet you jump all over me, call me names and the like for a very innocent post.

      I guess this is where I should beseach Mad to take action, like you have done time and time again.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        How do I not know what? That Woodson covered Davis ljke a blanket? Very simple, because I never saw it in that game. Not with enough regularity to make any definitive statement about it. Most of the time I didn't see what Woodson was doing on a play. Mostly I saw the QBs and linemen, with cuts to limited frames of wherever the passes went. I have no clue what was going on elsewhere on the field because I couldn't see it. When I did see Woodson, too often he was running and struggling to get back into plays.

        I simply asked you some questions about whatever that service is that was available last year, and if it was worth it. I thought you were one of the people on here who said they subscribed. I was hoping to find out more about it.

        What about Justin Smith and his weight? All I would know is what is published on rosters. Don't remember discussing it, but maybe. Are you confusing me with someone else? You will have to refresh my memory. When was it?

        I've never challenged McGinn's indepth analysis, especially not about the draftable players. I usually save his summaries about positions so I can look at the paragraphs on the top players at each position.

        My beef with McGinn has been with the rumors and "inside information" he publishes which far too often is shown to be baseless. I hate the spin he uses to justify rumors published by him and his cronies, even after proven wrong, like the "bigger tougher" and "avoid injured players at all cost" rumors that the draft facts this year simply do not support. As I said several times recently, some readers want to kiss his ass for everything he publishes, instead of thinking for themselves and differentiating between the things he is very good at, at the times he sensationalizes rumors to sell papers.

        By the way, if you really want to see an arrogant prick, look in the mirror. You complain that you are the target of unfounded attacks, yet you jump all over me, call me names and the like for a very innocent post.

        I guess this is where I should beseach Mad to take action, like you have done time and time again.
        Mistaken identity -- greatly apologize.

        The NFL web site has various services at it web site to get different views.

        Keep being skeptical but Woodson had a very good day covering Davis -- no matter your long post explaining nothing.

        Patler, your stuff is generally good.

        My bad.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
          Mistaken identity -- greatly apologize.

          The NFL web site has various services at it web site to get different views.

          Keep being skeptical but Woodson had a very good day covering Davis -- no matter your long post explaining nothing.

          Patler, your stuff is generally good.

          My bad.
          No problem.

          As for Woodson, one of the JS or GBPG writers this past week had a paragraph within an article on something else, in which he stated, with stats and opinion, about how the pass defense improved as soon as Woodson was out, suggesting that he never fit in at safety. Meant to link it at the time, but forgot, and now I can't remember which article it was in.

          I hope he finds a spot if he still wants to play. I have little interest in it being in GB, however.

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          • #50
            All I know is if Woodson had a good day covering Davis why did we let him walk and why is he still unemployed?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
              All I know is if Woodson had a good day covering Davis why did we let him walk and why is he still unemployed?
              1. Age
              2. Injury history
              3. Critical of Capers
              4. Free Lances Too Much -- Bad Influence on younger players
              5. Made it clear in January he was unwilling to take a paycut

              Bottom Line: Even though CW can still play finding the right scheme and coordinator is a problem.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                1. Age
                2. Injury history
                3. Critical of Capers
                4. Free Lances Too Much -- Bad Influence on younger players
                5. Made it clear in January he was unwilling to take a paycut

                Bottom Line: Even though CW can still play finding the right scheme and coordinator is a problem.
                As much as I like Woodson, I think the bottom line is he can no longer play, otherwise someone would have picked him up by now.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                  1. Age
                  2. Injury history
                  3. Critical of Capers
                  4. Free Lances Too Much -- Bad Influence on younger players
                  5. Made it clear in January he was unwilling to take a paycut

                  Bottom Line: Even though CW can still play finding the right scheme and coordinator is a problem.
                  Rare instance where I agree with you. Thought Wood played well against SF, but wouldn't rework his contract. Now he is looking for the perfect situation, and GB is waiting to see if they desperately need him before offering him anything. It wouldn't hurt either side if he came in after week ?? and lined right up.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    Thought Wood played well against SF
                    this should disqualify you from posting for at least a month. Woodson was done after the Superbowl. The guy broke his collarbone giving everything he had just to make a routine coverage play at Corner. Despite some successes in 2011 due to being a wily veteran, the guy had lost his physical edge. Done and done.

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                    • #55
                      Originally Posted by rbaloha1

                      " How do you not know that?

                      Is it the same "intelligence" you use that Justin Smith weighs 270 or challenge McGinn's in-depth analysis."
                      rbaloha1


                      Woodbuck -- is this the arrogant prick you are referring to? " rbaloha1


                      Response to above by Patler:

                      How do I not know what? That Woodson covered Davis ljke a blanket? Very simple, because I never saw it in that game. Not with enough regularity to make any definitive statement about it. Most of the time I didn't see what Woodson was doing on a play. Mostly I saw the QBs and linemen, with cuts to limited frames of wherever the passes went. I have no clue what was going on elsewhere on the field because I couldn't see it. When I did see Woodson, too often he was running and struggling to get back into plays.

                      I simply asked you some questions about whatever that service is that was available last year, and if it was worth it. I thought you were one of the people on here who said they subscribed. I was hoping to find out more about it.

                      What about Justin Smith and his weight? All I would know is what is published on rosters. Don't remember discussing it, but maybe. Are you confusing me with someone else? You will have to refresh my memory. When was it?

                      I've never challenged McGinn's indepth analysis, especially not about the draftable players. I usually save his summaries about positions so I can look at the paragraphs on the top players at each position.

                      My beef with McGinn has been with the rumors and "inside information" he publishes which far too often is shown to be baseless. I hate the spin he uses to justify rumors published by him and his cronies, even after proven wrong, like the "bigger tougher" and "avoid injured players at all cost" rumors that the draft facts this year simply do not support. As I said several times recently, some readers want to kiss his ass for everything he publishes, instead of thinking for themselves and differentiating between the things he is very good at, at the times he sensationalizes rumors to sell papers.

                      By the way, if you really want to see an arrogant prick, look in the mirror. You complain that you are the target of unfounded attacks, yet you jump all over me, call me names and the like for a very innocent post.

                      I guess this is where I should beseach Mad to take action, like you have done time and time again.


                      Woodbuck -- is this the arrogant prick you are referring to? " rbaloha1

                      Response woodbuck27:

                      I know 'of course', that you deleted this portion of that post 'in finality'; but all the same, it's on this board and I therefore must address it.

                      You asked a ? of me and a derogatory desciption of Packerrats member known as Patler.

                      Patler isn't in my view... an arrogant prick.

                      Did I specifically post that anyone here at Packerrats is 'an arrogant prick'? I believe I used the term 'prickishness' and from time to time any man that can assert himself... will get right there. That's simply 'a part of being a real man', when that's necessary.

                      Now arrogance is another matter.

                      I've often issued this caution and not 'only' to others but also to myself. Never confuse 'arrogance' with 'intelligence'. Patler is an intelligent poster.

                      I've discovered in my lifetime that 'a persons intelligence', can often be a form of frustration to a large proportion of all people. That feeling of being frustrated doesn't make the person frustrating another ...a prick or prickish.

                      Otherwise I don't want to comment on this. My post here is merely meant as a clarification for you and this board.

                      Have a nice day.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                        this should disqualify you from posting for at least a month. Woodson was done after the Superbowl. The guy broke his collarbone giving everything he had just to make a routine coverage play at Corner. Despite some successes in 2011 due to being a wily veteran, the guy had lost his physical edge. Done and done.
                        I guess you did not watch the Vikings or 49ers playoff games in which C-wood played. Stuffed AP and blanketed Davis. Again current 49er players wanted C-Wood on their team.

                        Just becauseCW remains unsigned does not mean he can still make plays in specific roles.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                          I guess you did not watch the Vikings or 49ers playoff games in which C-wood played. Stuffed AP and blanketed Davis. Again current 49er players wanted C-Wood on their team.

                          Just becauseCW remains unsigned does not mean he can still make plays in specific roles.
                          Sure, Woodson can still make a play here or there, just like Driver last year. Unlike Driver however, the Packers don't want him back, even it seems, at a discount. Maybe the Packers player personnel guys know more than 49er players.

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                          • #58
                            If Woodson was that impressive against the Niners, wouldn't the Niners, who need a safety, have signed him?
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              If Woodson was that impressive against the Niners, wouldn't the Niners, who need a safety, have signed him?
                              its not the players choice. front office signed a rams 27 yo safety and drafted reid in round one.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                                Sure, Woodson can still make a play here or there, just like Driver last year. Unlike Driver however, the Packers don't want him back, even it seems, at a discount. Maybe the Packers player personnel guys know more than 49er players.
                                this is not dd -- plays at a much higher level when on the field. mentioned other issues. it is not always about the level of play.

                                recall in 2006, woodson had little interest with many speculating career was over.

                                cw has something left in the tank in a specialized role.

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