Woodson still unsigned

[pbmax]

I fondly remember how the Fire Ted groundswell of fan support campaign ended.

[rbaloha1]

SMH. The Raider Nation is approaching the threshold of patheticism.

CW is hardly pathetic -- dude still has gas in the tank as evidenced by the interest. Believe your eyes with CW's recent playoff performances.

[rbaloha1]

I fondly remember how the Fire Ted groundswell of fan support campaign ended.

Not even in the same football field.

[RashanGary]

CW, if he was healthy for a full season, probably could play SS pretty well. I highly doubt he could play boundary corner.


Unfortunately, all great players cross the threshold from great to good, good to average and average to below. CW is probably somewhere between average and good as a SS, if he's healthy. We'll probably miss him somewhere between a little and not at all. A little if he's healthy all season, and not at all if he's not. They say it's better to cut ties a year too early than a year too late. That's what we're looking at here. He's at or near the end. Might as well move on. The more likely mistake, if you listen to football people, is hanging on too long.

[George Cumby]

CW is hardly pathetic -- dude still has gas in the tank as evidenced by the interest. Believe your eyes with CW's recent playoff performances.

I didn't say CW is pathetic. I said the RN is approaching the pathetic. Big difference there.

I do think, however, that he is done. He's lost his wheels and he's now become brittle, which, at age 37, one would expect. It's a young mans game and CW is no longer young.

[rbaloha1]

I didn't say CW is pathetic. I said the RN is approaching the pathetic. Big difference there.

I do think, however, that he is done. He's lost his wheels and he's now become brittle, which, at age 37, one would expect. It's a young mans game and CW is no longer young.

There are age exceptions and imo CW is one of them.

[rbaloha1]

CW, if he was healthy for a full season, probably could play SS pretty well. I highly doubt he could play boundary corner.


Unfortunately, all great players cross the threshold from great to good, good to average and average to below. CW is probably somewhere between average and good as a SS, if he's healthy. We'll probably miss him somewhere between a little and not at all. A little if he's healthy all season, and not at all if he's not. They say it's better to cut ties a year too early than a year too late. That's what we're looking at here. He's at or near the end. Might as well move on. The more likely mistake, if you listen to football people, is hanging on too long.

CW was missed last year -- who else is scoring defensive tds like CW?

[RashanGary]

CW was missed last year -- who else is scoring defensive tds like CW?

CW is 37 years old. 2010 Charles Woodson is never going to play in the NFL again. This is 2013, and we need new great players, just like all teams need to continue to add/develop new, great players. He'll never be the player he was 2, 3, 4 years ago. I'm not sure what you're trying to say about Charles Woodson, but if you think he's going to have some great year with 6/7/8 interceptions let alone defensive touchdowns, I think you're mistaken.

Odds are (age/injury), Charles Woodson will not have a great 2013, no matter where he is.

To put it another way, Casey Hayward has a better chance of being 2010 Charles Woodson than Charles Woodson does. 34 and 37 doesn't sound all that different, but I have a feeling you're going to find out it is very different.

I do hope Woodson has a great year. He's one of my favorite all-time NFLers. I wish the guy the best and think he should play. He seems to love it enough to not quit until he has to.

[Pugger]

I'm still rather surprised Charles left Denver without signing. One would think a 37 year old player would want a shot at another ring - something Oakland won't be providing in 2013.

[rbaloha1]

CW is 37 years old. 2010 Charles Woodson is never going to play in the NFL again. This is 2013, and we need new great players, just like all teams need to continue to add/develop new, great players. He'll never be the player he was 2, 3, 4 years ago. I'm not sure what you're trying to say about Charles Woodson, but if you think he's going to have some great year with 6/7/8 interceptions let alone defensive touchdowns, I think you're mistaken.

Odds are (age/injury), Charles Woodson will not have a great 2013, no matter where he is.

To put it another way, Casey Hayward has a better chance of being 2010 Charles Woodson than Charles Woodson does. 34 and 37 doesn't sound all that different, but I have a feeling you're going to find out it is very different.

I do hope Woodson has a great year. He's one of my favorite all-time NFLers. I wish the guy the best and think he should play. He seems to love it enough to not quit until he has to.

Please review my other posts about CW.

CW can still play a certain ROLE for a team as evidenced by the interest from around 5 teams.

NO ONE IN THE PACKER SECONDARY CAN CURRENTLY TACKLE LIKE CW.

[Pugger]

Please review my other posts about CW.

CW can still play a certain ROLE for a team as evidenced by the interest from around 5 teams.

NO ONE IN THE PACKER SECONDARY CAN CURRENTLY TACKLE LIKE CW.

True, but I wouldn't want him to try to cover a speedy WR or TE. What good is your tackling ability if you can't keep up?

[rbaloha1]

True, but I wouldn't want him to try to cover a speedy WR or TE. What good is your tackling ability if you can't keep up?

How did he cover Vernon Davis mano to mano?

Again its up to a d-coordinator to maximize strengths and hide weaknesses.

CW can play in the box and keep an offense guessing if he is blitzing, remaining in the box or maybe covering.

[denverYooper]

I'm still rather surprised Charles left Denver without signing. One would think a 37 year old player would want a shot at another ring - something Oakland won't be providing in 2013.

Denver already has one aging former all-pro corner with declining speed, and he's got a few steps on Wood at this juncture. Wood's wheels are just about gone.

[rbaloha1]

Denver already has one aging former all-pro corner with declining speed, and he's got a few steps on Wood at this juncture. Wood's wheels are just about gone.

Why is Wood still getting interest?

Other teams understand what CW can do which the board continually dismisses -- THE SPEED IS DIMINISHING -- NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. ALL PLAYERS LOSE SPEED AFTER 30.

[pbmax]

How did he cover Vernon Davis mano to mano?

How did he do trying to chase and tackle Colin Kapernick?

And this has been pointed out before, Vernon Davis wasn't Vernon Davis with Kaepernick at QB. Alex Smith got hurt in their first St Louis game. Here was Vernon to that point:

                                           Rece Rece  Rece Rece Scor Scor
Rk    G       Date    Age  Tm  Opp  Result  Rec  Yds   Y/R   TD   TD  Pts
1     1 2012-09-09 28-222 SFO  GNB W 30-22    3   43 14.33    1    1    6
2     2 2012-09-16 28-229 SFO  DET W 27-19    5   73 14.60    2    2   12
3     3 2012-09-23 28-236 SFO  MIN L 13-24    5   53 10.60    1    1    6
4     4 2012-09-30 28-243 SFO  NYJ  W 34-0    2   28 14.00    0    0    0
5     5 2012-10-07 28-250 SFO  BUF  W 45-3    5  106 21.20    0    0    0
6     6 2012-10-14 28-257 SFO  NYG  L 3-26    3   37 12.33    0    0    0
7     7 2012-10-18 28-261 SFO  SEA  W 13-6    0    0          0    0    0
8     8 2012-10-29 28-272 SFO  ARI  W 24-3    2   34 17.00    0    0    0
9     9 2012-11-11 28-285 SFO  STL T 24-24    4   30  7.50    0    0    0

In the St. Louis game Smith was hurt in the first half, CK completed 3 passes to Davis for 24 yards. And here was Vernon after CK took over full time.

10   10 2012-11-19 28-293 SFO  CHI  W 32-7    6   83 13.83    1    1    6
11   11 2012-11-25 28-299 SFO  NOR W 31-21    0    0          0    0    0
12   12 2012-12-02 28-306 SFO  STL L 13-16    2   15  7.50    0    0    0
13   13 2012-12-09 28-313 SFO  MIA W 27-13    1    4  4.00    0    0    0
14   14 2012-12-16 28-320 SFO  NWE W 41-34    1   10 10.00    0    0    0
15   15 2012-12-23 28-327 SFO  SEA L 13-42    1   27 27.00    0    0    0
16   16 2012-12-30 28-334 SFO  ARI W 27-13    1    5  5.00    0    0    0