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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Lambeau
    Lombardi
    Hutson
    Starr


    Tough choices. You could make an argument for Favre, White, Wolf, Harlan, and Nitschke. I'd pick Favre as a slightly better player than Starr, but Starr won more and he also has a reputation as one of the finest individuals to ever walk the planet. For a Mount Rushmore of the franchise, I want Bart representing the Green & Gold. To me, Hutson is a no brainer (the Babe Ruth of WRs, great two way player, classy, and the Pack won several championships in his time).

    I would go with these 4 too.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      Washigton, Lincoln and Jefferson have pretty significant structures in their memory, but are on Mount Rushmore too.
      Not sure how much of a household name Teddy Roosevelt was at the time he was selected for Rushmore. Not saying he wasn't, just don't know. I don't think he was the status of the other three, anyway.
      Wasn't Teddy chosen because he was in office when the first National Park came to be?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
        I'll be fine with Favre in the Packer HOF. I do think he'd belong on the Mt. Rushmore of Packers, if you went on play alone.

        After the way it went down, him seeking out the Vikings to beat the Packers. His spirit was not with the Packers, it was to beat the Packers. That's a lasting memory of Favre. I just don't think he's a Packer anymore.
        I don't think #4 belongs there but not because he played/coached elsewhere. Both Lambeau and Lombardi went on to different teams. The only one who didn't was Starr. But these 3 brought more than one championship to GB so that is why I chose Hutson my fourh choice.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by swede View Post
          You mean this guy?
          No, this guy:

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          • #20
            Originally posted by swede View Post
            Oooh I wanted to trade Harlan for Nitschke, but without Harlan Green Bay would have been 80's bad through the 90's.
            That's why I picked Harlan. Wolf, Favre and White are always mentioned as responsible for the Packer resurgence, but Harlan was the planner and decision maker who made it all possible, both in facilities upgrades and in how the organization operated. He cleaned up a couple decades of degradation and incompetence, brought in good football people, then got out of their way on football matters. Harlan made the organizational structure one that would be appealing to a guy like Wolf, and he made the facilities into one that would attract and retain coaches and players. He then set in motion a long range vision to keep the team financially competitive for the foreseeable future.

            In my opinion, without Harlan or someone with the same foresight and willingness to change, the Packers of the '70s and '80s might be the Packers of today, or the Packers of the '90s might have been a last hurrah for the once-proud organization.

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            • #21
              Lambeau and Lombardi.

              Hutson as a player should be on there. But there are only four spots and his era is represented by Lambeau. I think the era, with limited spots, has to take precedence over being a player.

              Same with Starr and Lombardi.

              So in a decision I cannot believe I have come to, it has to be Favre for the third position. And since he stuck around to launch a second new era with Thompson/M3/Rodgers, Harlan is the fourth.

              Lambeau, Lombardi, Favre, Harlan.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #22
                Starr transcends all aspects of the Packers. He has been a Packer through and through for more than 50 years as a player, assistant coach, head coach, ambassador and fan. To me, there is nor person more a Packer than Bart Starr. He did and probably still would do anything the organization asked of him. His contributions stretch from before Lombardi to the present day.

                Favre doesn't even come close in my opinion.

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                • #23
                  Lambeau, Starr, Lombardi and Hutson from left to right in that order, with Harlan, favre are the start of mount Rushmore jr.

                  While I recognize all Harlan and Farve have done for the packers, Hutson is arguably the greatest to ever play. That has to be respected.
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    Starr transcends all aspects of the Packers. He has been a Packer through and through for more than 50 years as a player, assistant coach, head coach, ambassador and fan. To me, there is nor person more a Packer than Bart Starr. He did and probably still would do anything the organization asked of him. His contributions stretch from before Lombardi to the present day.

                    Favre doesn't even come close in my opinion.
                    Patler, I just go where the logic and facts take me. I always try to leave emotion and attachment out of it.



                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Patler, I just go where the logic and facts take me. I always try to leave emotion and attachment out of it.
                      Which is exactly why I don't understand your pick of Favre. Neither logic nor facts support it.
                      That is so unlike you!

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                      • #26
                        Just to be clear, we are talking Bob Harlan and not Harlan Huckleby?

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                        • #27
                          Damn you guys still mad? And I thought I held a long grudge. Go watch some #4 highlights on you tube and see if they don't give you chills.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                            Damn you guys still mad? And I thought I held a long grudge. Go watch some #4 highlights on you tube and see if they don't give you chills.
                            I agree, he was with out a doubt a great great player. One of the top ten all time qb's, but he just happens to be the third best player in packers history, Lambeau made the organization and Lombardi is Lombardi.
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                            George Orwell

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                            • #29
                              For my money, I would like to see Hutson on there, just because he was such an outstanding athlete, and personified the NFL switch to the passing game. But to be fair to the concept, Favre clearly belongs on there. Remember that Hutson ran up a lot of his numbers playing against WWII depleted ranks. In contrast, Favre symbolized Packer football during their resurgence from near extinction and for a stretch of 16 years. Starr is symbolic of the 60s successes, but he should really be up there for his scintillating run as Head Coach and player-personell terrorist. As much as Starr the player was responsible for 60s success, Starr the coach was responsible for 70s and 80s failures in the field. In fairness to Starr however, if there were an alternative universe, anti-rushmore, Dan Devine should be up there in place of Washington.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by swede View Post
                                You mean this guy?
                                he looks very descript to me

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